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Molto Verboso
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:37 am quote
Nice reminds me when I painted a small frame Corvette Yellow around 1990.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:11 pm quote
Looking good mate!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:56 pm quote
love the yellow Brother Safis, look sunshine to me
bodgemaster
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 pm quote
You know Iím a fan. Great choice!
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:32 pm quote
Thanks guys!!! A few more...







Hooked
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:52 pm quote
im loving this
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:49 pm quote
awesome! Looking forward to hearing this thing run.

BTW would love some feedback after you run with it for a while on that Kong brake backing plate thing. I know you guys were talking about it a few months ago and i just noticed you installed it.

Keep up the great work!
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:17 pm quote
Thanks Sean! Page 4, near the end, you can hear it on the stand...
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:23 pm quote
ah yes I missed that when I scrolled quickly through that page! Sounds great. This thing will look great on the road!
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:13 pm quote
I like...a lot!
Molto Verboso
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:13 pm quote
LOVE.
Molto Verboso
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:13 pm quote
LOVE
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:07 pm quote
My T5 is a two tone yellow and black, so I had to spray the yellow first. Your T5 just reminded me of what mine looked like for only about an hour (since I sprayed the black color over most of the yellow).
bodgemaster
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Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:07 am quote
Are you spraying it Chris or do you have a shop doing it?
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Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:33 am quote
A friend did it. He has a shop...
Ossessionato
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Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:07 pm quote
Started assembly...













Molto Verboso
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Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:35 pm quote
oh gosh it's like medicine or beer or tequila or whatever it's good thank you.
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Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:29 pm quote
Day 2...

























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Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:06 pm quote
Better than brand new! Looking sharp!
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Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:56 pm quote
Going to be a shame to get it dirty. Not a fan of the square tail but another quality build from Safis. I would be happy with a scooter looking half as clean.
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:43 am quote
The postman brought me this today. A nice touch to the build...

bodgemaster
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:32 am quote
Love your work, Chris. Front end is glorious.
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:59 am quote
This is arguably one of the sexist rebuilds I have seen in quite some time. I LOVE your choice of colour. It reminds me of my Corvette. Looking forward to seeing the final assembly and ride notes.

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Molto Verboso
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:26 am quote
Jack221 wrote:
Going to be a shame to get it dirty. Another quality build from Safis. I would be happy with a scooter looking half as clean.
I agree with this big time! What a beautiful build, beautiful color. And thank you for all the pictures. I've gone through it a bunch of times just because it's really nice to see such a cool build taking place!
Hooked
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:06 am quote
Safis not messing around! I love that you're getting right on it. Nice work Love the yellow! Looks fast Happy to see one of these being brought back so beautifully.
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Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:31 pm quote
Thanks guys!!! Small update. Legshield trim is on (what a PITA job) and finished with the mono cable gear system. Had to fab a new gear roller cause Cosas use 22mm tubes and have a different travel. Now the gear positions align correctly to the PX/T5 marks...













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Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:44 pm quote
Looking so GOOD, the yellow really pops!

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Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:12 pm quote
Looking great Chrys! Those studs in the hub are super long, what's with that?

How does the single cable work? I guess it's much thicker to avoid bending when it's in 'push' mode?
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:35 am quote
Thanks guys!!! Michael, long studs were the solution to mount the wheel discs on the tubeless rims (page 2). No one tried it before
Cable is solid wire so it canít flex. Outer is also robust compared to the stock cables...
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:01 am quote
Ginch wrote:
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How does the single cable work? I guess it's much thicker to avoid bending when it's in 'push' mode?
Yeah, it's like your choke cable on steroids. I have this in PK50XL2 and it is a dream to adjust(just tighten one set screw on mine when gearbox and handle in same position) AND to shift, snick, snick, snick w zero slop!
bodgemaster
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:16 am quote
That solid cable wire is intriguing.

Is that an aftermarket goodie or what ... not familiar with the T5 set up.

Anything like this available for a regular lardy? It looks infinitely more solid and slop-free than regular cables.
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 am quote
@Mike: Not aftermarket. Cosas (2nd generation) came standard with it. Since I have a Cosa 200 for parts and they share the same handlebar design (stamped steel), I decided to go for it. Selector boxes are difficult to find nowadays. There are a few on the German eBay but pricey. What is almost impossible to find is the cover (although you can always fab one) and the small "stop" plates you can see front and back of the rubber that holds the cable into place. The selector box comes also with a neutral indicator switch but since my T5 is a non battery model I took everything out...
bodgemaster
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:02 am quote
Ahh ok, gotcha thx Chris.... solid cable requires a late Cosa selector + assorted other Cosa parts ...

What about in the headset, how do the solid cables hook up?

Very interesting. Must be a huge improvement in shifting precision.
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:18 am quote
Cable is held by a circlip attached to one (the rear) of the two original cable holes. Gear roller is different cause Cosas and PKs have 22mm tubes and their travel would give me a wrong gear position at the handlebar end (if I could use it). So, I fabricated my own with a bit of trial and error to achieve the correct indicated gear position. Great thing is that everything is reversible and I can always go back to a two cable system...

Original Cosa / PK...


And mine...
bodgemaster
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:36 pm quote
Pro job, as usual Chris. Thx my friend.
Hooked
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:31 pm quote
Single cable shifter seems like a worth while upgrade. Nicely done, and clean too!
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:38 pm quote
Lovely work. Can't help thinking the wire (rather than cable) system ought to be possible to adapt... in theory.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:51 pm quote
was wondering about the choke cable too.
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:05 pm quote
Whyís that Andy?? Is it about the length?? Well, the BGM cable set I got was meant for a PX with an autolube thatís why itís longer. But since it works as it should, who cares??
Molto Verboso
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:33 am quote
everything is looking terrific nice attention to detail example the red and gold Piaggio foil sticker excellent!

Where can I find the fuel valve ON <----> OFF sticker?

Your choke cable looks different to anything I have seen before is it T5? Notice a wire clip at the tube entry never seen one like that seems to engage the cable housing? Also the tension clip. I just installed a choke cable on my P200 and mine does not have either of those clips maybe I am missing something?

The shifter upgrade looks amazing.
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