Review on the new Vespa GTS 300 HPE
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:58 am quote
Howdy folks, I was lucky enough to be at the launch of the new GTS 300 HPE this week. Here's my review for ScooterLab...

https://scooterlab.uk/2019-vespa-gts-300-hpe-super-launch-road-test/[/url]
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:18 pm quote
Great work. Thanks for sharing.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:58 pm quote
That is a great write-up. Thanks for publishing it here.

At last Piaggio have designed a new scooter. For the last decade and more they have just thrown old bits together, using the same cylinder head, exhaust, air filter etc on the 125, 250 and 300. The only new design was the camshaft that came out a couple of years ago, and the sidestand that came out last year. OK, ABS and ASR too.

Now here we have a new engine that has been designed as a whole, everything re-worked for this new Vespa, and they seem to have done a wonderful job of it.

According to Zirri it doesn't have the performance of an older model with a Malossi V4 cylinder and head, but it has certainly narrowed the gap. And I like the "necktie" horn cover.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:59 pm quote
Great review. My main question is how long do we have to wait for it in the US and is it worth waiting for?
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:19 pm quote
I believe you guys did a report a while back on how many GTS's were getting stolen a week because of the crappy security. Did you look to see if they've improved the security at all?
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:53 am quote
Sure would love to trade in my 2012 for a new 300. They look great!
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:01 pm quote
Thanks for the link to your review.

I'm wondering if we will get the HPE models here this year.
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm quote
easterbunny wrote:
Great review. My main question is how long do we have to wait for it in the US and is it worth waiting for?
My main question is why don't I move to Europe?
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:35 pm quote
tdrake wrote:
easterbunny wrote:
Great review. My main question is how long do we have to wait for it in the US and is it worth waiting for?
My main question is why don't I move to Europe?
"... Blasting around Italian switchbacks, the blue ocean glistening in the sunshine and multi-coloured GTS’ in front and behind me..."

Southern Europe...
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:58 pm quote
tdrake wrote:
My main question is why don't I move to Europe?
I’m looking for someplace where it doesn’t get too cold in winter nor too hot in summer near a coast.
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:40 pm quote
Sydney. We scoot all the year around.

But I'm told the HPE models won't get here this year.
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:04 pm quote
RRider wrote:
tdrake wrote:
easterbunny wrote:
Great review. My main question is how long do we have to wait for it in the US and is it worth waiting for?
My main question is why don't I move to Europe?
"... Blasting around Italian switchbacks, the blue ocean glistening in the sunshine and multi-coloured GTS’ in front and behind me..."

Southern Europe...
That sentence right there.
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:19 pm quote
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KABarash wrote:
tdrake wrote:
My main question is why don't I move to Europe?
I’m looking for someplace where it doesn’t get too cold in winter nor too hot in summer near a coast.
Well, I'm mostly two-for-three over here...

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Yeah, the winters here suck a bit.

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Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:50 am quote
Sigh, now I'm wanting the new HPE model...
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:39 pm quote
This article from Rideapart says that the GTS hpe is hitting the market now:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/304888/most-powerful-vespa-gts-launch/

It is vague on which market, I hope it means the US.
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:59 pm quote
Seems like they are quite chuffed with it

When the time comes for me to replace my 2009 GTS, I'll likely replace it with another large frame Vespa. Perhaps I'll find a low mile HPE someday in the future.
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:37 pm quote
The HPE will be 2020 models in the US, with a couple colors arriving in March. That usually means at the end of the month in Vespa speak, so like March 30 we get invoiced, few days shipping to the dealer.


March
GTS 300 HPE ABS VERDE MY20
GTS 300 HPE ABS BLU ENERGIA MY20
GTS 300 HPE ABS GRIGIO DOLOMITI MY20

April
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS BIANCO MY20
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS NERO LUCIDO MY20
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS ROSSO MY20
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS GIALLO MY20
GTS SUP.SP. 300 HPE BLU VIVACE MY20
GTS SUP.SP.300 HPE GRIGIO TIT. MY20
GTS TOURING 300 HPE ABS VERDE BOSCO MY20

May
VESPA GTS SUPERTECH 300 HPE GRIG.M. MY20

June
GTS 300 HPE ABS YACHT CLUB MY20
GTV 300 HPE SEI GIORNI ABS GRIGIO OPACO MY20
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS NOTTE MY20

Looks like they all went up $150 over the 2019 MSRP
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:29 pm quote
AF1 Racing wrote:
The HPE will be 2020 models in the US, with a couple colors arriving in March. That usually means at the end of the month in Vespa speak, so like March 30 we get invoiced, few days shipping to the dealer.

April
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS ROSSO MY20
Lostboater????
Looks like your ship has come in.
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:39 pm quote
Very good news then. I was ready to buy a while back till at EICMA showed the new gts300 version and so I put the whole thing on hold. I will wait a bit, and get the hpe. Unless they give a big discount on the current ones. But I doubt it, dealers in Bay Area area seem to prefer keeping the stuff unsold.
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Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:06 am quote
Taco wrote:
Very good news then. I was ready to buy a while back till at EICMA showed the new gts300 version and so I put the whole thing on hold. I will wait a bit, and get the hpe. Unless they give a big discount on the current ones. But I doubt it, dealers in Bay Area area seem to prefer keeping the stuff unsold.
Substantial discounts available on the outgoing models here in the U.K. (£3999) seems almost rude not to buy one at that price!
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Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:51 pm quote
In Toronto by April
mingo wrote:
I'm wondering if we will get the HPE models here this year.
There is one on display at the Toronto Motorcycle Show right now (the yellow one). It's strange to see a Menu button on a Vespa.

Cheers,
Bob
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Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:55 am quote
AF1 Racing wrote:
The HPE will be 2020 models in the US, with a couple colors arriving in March. That usually means at the end of the month in Vespa speak, so like March 30 we get invoiced, few days shipping to the dealer.

Looks like they all went up $150 over the 2019 MSRP
Thank you very much for a very informative post.
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Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:04 am quote
robinm wrote:
I believe you guys did a report a while back on how many GTS's were getting stolen a week because of the crappy security. Did you look to see if they've improved the security at all?
Ah, this article doesn't attribute Vespa thefts to "crappy security". It is about the theft of popular scooter models in the London area. The lead off is about a Lambretta theft!
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Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:53 am quote
WLeuthold wrote:
AF1 Racing wrote:
The HPE will be 2020 models in the US, with a couple colors arriving in March. That usually means at the end of the month in Vespa speak, so like March 30 we get invoiced, few days shipping to the dealer.

April
GTS SUPER 300 HPE ABS ROSSO MY20
Lostboater????
Looks like your ship has come in.
Just in time to break in on our spring ride!!!!!!
I will call Tampa Vespa and see what they have!!
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Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:20 pm quote
Dooglas wrote:
robinm wrote:
I believe you guys did a report a while back on how many GTS's were getting stolen a week because of the crappy security. Did you look to see if they've improved the security at all?
Ah, this article doesn't attribute Vespa thefts to "crappy security". It is about the theft of popular scooter models in the London area. The lead off is about a Lambretta theft!
The subtitle of the report is "30 Vespas stolen in one week". The article might not attribute the thefts to "crappy security" but this is the reason they are a magnet for bike thieves. Apparently it only takes a couple of minutes to ride a GTS away as if it were your own. I'm quite certain that scooterlab are aware of this but I was quite curious why they didn't make any mention of whether the issue has been addressed.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:11 pm quote
The valves on the new GTS 300 are the same size as the ones on the Euro 3 GTS and GTS 125 Leader. Variator, clutch, air cleaner, etc, are interchangeable between this brand new HyPE motor and the one it replaces. So you're probably not missing out on much if you stick with the pre-HyPE GTS.
If there are deep discounts on the Euro 4 GTS, that might be a very good deal.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:21 pm quote
Will have to wait to see the bike's in real life but this one peaked my interest:
GTV 300 HPE SEI GIORNI ABS GRIGIO OPACO MY20
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:34 pm quote
we're excited about the Supertech version with the TFT color dash.

LOVE it on the Prima S now. Slick, modern, and clean
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 pm quote
anyone know if the US will get Verde Relax (that light blue limited color)?

Thanks!
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Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:42 am quote
I sent my local dealer an email telling him exactly what I want, 2019 GTS HPE in Russo. Sadly, five days later, all it got was a automated reply. Guess I will have to go to Texas or maybe to Thousand Oaks to get one. That would break my heart having to ride across American again on my very first out of the dealer new red scooter
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Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:04 am quote
Try texting, emails are out. Or a phone call.
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Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:53 am quote
zigzagguzzi wrote:
Try texting, emails are out. Or a phone call.
Well if the email form on their website is "out" then so is my business. This is my second time I have given them a shot a selling me a new scooter and they have missed the mark. I will say that their service department, though not well versed on Vespas, I have only good things to say about them the two times I have had warranty work done.

I know that if I email AF1 or Thousand Oaks saying I want to buy a new scooter they will email me back.
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Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:30 am quote
lostboater wrote:
zigzagguzzi wrote:
Try texting, emails are out. Or a phone call.
Well if the email form on their website is "out" then so is my business. This is my second time I have given them a shot a selling me a new scooter and they have missed the mark. I will say that their service department, though not well versed on Vespas, I have only good things to say about them the two times I have had warranty work done.

I know that if I email AF1 or Thousand Oaks saying I want to buy a new scooter they will email me back.
Thanks, I know we would email you back.

We can ship one to your front door.
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Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:44 pm quote
Whom do I contact at Piaggio North America to find out if and when the GTS300 SuperTech is coming to Canada?
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Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:33 am quote
zigzagguzzi wrote:
Try texting, emails are out. Or a phone call.
I texted, called and emailed a Vespa dealer in Philadelphia 9 months ago inquiring about their stock, still haven’t heard back.
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Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:40 am quote
The dark green ‘Verde Bosco’ has me lusting for it. Change the seat to a tan or brown?
Kind of like the "British racing green" in a MGB!
Dark smoke LED turn signals and running lights!
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Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:26 am quote
Allens wrote:
The dark green ‘Verde Bosco’ has me lusting for it. Change the seat to a tan or brown?
Kind of like the "British racing green" in a MGB!
Dark smoke LED turn signals and running lights!
Cheekyseats.com would easily be able to make a tan or brown. They can add pipping, checkerboards and all sorts of fun ways to customize the seat!
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Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am quote
mingo wrote:
Whom do I contact at Piaggio North America to find out if and when the GTS300 SuperTech is coming to Canada?
ask your local dealer....they should already have the 2019 order forms, and all the future models for the whole year. I'd be shocked if you didn't get it.
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Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:48 am quote
...and AF1 answered my email in less the 24 hours.

My dealer finally called after days and said their floor plan is frozen and it is unknown when or if they will get any more Vespas.
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Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:33 am quote
AF1 Racing wrote:
ask your local dealer....they should already have the 2019 order forms, and all the future models for the whole year. I'd be shocked if you didn't get it.
I took your advice and asked my local dealer and was told the only 2020 300 HPE models listed are Notte and Sei Giorni arriving here in July.

If you're talking to your Piaggio contacts, it would be of great service to Canadian MVers if you could ask them if / when the SuperTech model is coming to Canada. Thank you very much.
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