Is my battery bad?
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'06 GT200
Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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Location: Richmond, VA
Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:20 am quote
I ride my LX150 almost everyday to work, but it never seems to want to start unless I charge up the battery every morning. I keep it on a covered porch outside. I can understand that the battery needs extra power when it is cold outside, but lately it has needed charging with temps close to 50F. My rides are usually pretty short, less than 10 miles in the city. Is this enough to maintain charge in the battery? There luckily has always been enough charge left to get me home in the evenings, but I get nervous walking to the scooter sometimes. How can I tell if my battery is holding its charge properly?
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LX150
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:31 am quote
I have the same issue with mine. You are not alone!
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:41 am quote
You definitely should not have to charge your battery every night. I would say your battery is almost certainly bad.
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:47 am quote
Check the water in your battery......

R
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'06 GT200
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Location: Richmond, VA
Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:59 am quote
I looked at the water levels this morning. They seemed to be in the range indicated on the battery.
Hooked
lx 150
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 144
Location: richmond, va.
Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:39 pm quote
I think I may have seen you/your scoot around carrytown. Did you rewire your turnsignals?

I've had no problems with my battery(knock on wood) but I ride aprox 20-30 miles a day and usually maintain speeds of 35+.

Have you ever tried to kickstart your lx? Not that you should have to but I made it a point to get the hang of it(not that it got any easier) for just such an occasion.

Have you taken it to a dealer to have it looked at?
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:10 pm quote
Do you have anything hard-wired to your battery? Any accessory that doesn't get switched off when the bike is off? It sounds like a lot of people around here do it without problem but if what you've wired to your battery gets recharged when plugged in, the device could be a constant slow drain on the battery.
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'06 GT200
Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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Location: Richmond, VA
Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:43 pm quote
tippytop wrote:
I think I may have seen you/your scoot around carrytown. Did you rewire your turnsignals?

I've had no problems with my battery(knock on wood) but I ride aprox 20-30 miles a day and usually maintain speeds of 35+.

Have you ever tried to kickstart your lx? Not that you should have to but I made it a point to get the hang of it(not that it got any easier) for just such an occasion.

Have you taken it to a dealer to have it looked at?
You may have seen me around Carytown. My girlfriend lives near there. I didn't rewire my turn signals though. I have made no electrical mods to the scooter. I have never managed to kickstart it either. I have tried to a few times. I think I may end up trying a new battery.
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05 Vespa GT200 & 02 Honda Reflex
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Location: Richardson, Texas
Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:56 pm quote
I had battery trouble with the first Vespa I had, an 03 ET2. Since it was within the 1-year warranty period (by a few weeks!) the dealer replaced it, no charge.

Lisa
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Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:13 pm quote
Phish2R wrote:
I have never managed to kickstart it either. I have tried to a few times. I think I may end up trying a new battery.
Please please please don't ever try to kickstart your LX. You'll most likely end up breaking something. Consider it decoration.
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Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:34 pm quote
If you ride less then 10 miles a day on your scooter that isn't enough time for your scooter stator to recharge your battery. BUY A BATTERY TENDER, or go on a long ride (30 miles) that should be enough to charge your battery. By the way the battery is only cover for 3 months since it is considered a wear and tear item.

All the best,
Jon
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:23 am quote
Have the battery tested under load. Any AutoZone, Advance Auto, Pep Boys etc will do it for no charge. Ask for Manny.
Hooked
Vespa LX150
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Posts: 113
Location: NJ
Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:04 pm quote
scooterjon wrote:
If you ride less then 10 miles a day on your scooter that isn't enough time for your scooter stator to recharge your battery. BUY A BATTERY TENDER, or go on a long ride (30 miles) that should be enough to charge your battery. By the way the battery is only cover for 3 months since it is considered a wear and tear item.

All the best,
Jon
This is the best advice. The drain of starting and all your lights running, brake, turn, horn use...., it's not running long enough to really charge up. It is certainly worth getting your battery tested, but using the tender is a good idea.
Doug
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Location: NJ
Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:04 pm quote
scooterjon wrote:
If you ride less then 10 miles a day on your scooter that isn't enough time for your scooter stator to recharge your battery. BUY A BATTERY TENDER, or go on a long ride (30 miles) that should be enough to charge your battery. By the way the battery is only cover for 3 months since it is considered a wear and tear item.

All the best,
Jon
This is the best advice. The drain of starting and all your lights running, brake, turn, horn use...., it's not running long enough to really charge up. It is certainly worth getting your battery tested, but using the tender is a good idea.
Doug
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'06 GT200
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Posts: 25
Location: Richmond, VA
Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:29 pm quote
Thanks for all of the advice. I have a battery tender, but I didn't think that I would need to use it as much as I have lately. I guess that I am just not riding for long enough for the scooter to charge the battery. Since it has been cold for the last few months, I haven't been riding much more than the 10 miles round trip to work and back. I orignially thought that as long as I rode everyday, the battery should stay charged. Live and learn. I guess my problems are just the nature of the beast.
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:30 pm quote
Again, from your initial post I think there's a problem with your battery. While some scooters have been known not to fully charge with just short rides, recharging the battery every night in order to get one day's use out of it is definitely not normal or acceptable. Unless I've misinterpreted the interval between charging, I strongly recommend you get the battery replaced.
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