Steering rod? "Complete cardan joint"
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Location: Silesia, POLAND
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:34 am quote
Hello
I need to replace one of steering rods (no 11 on diagram https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/gilera-parts/2008-fuoco-500-e3-scooters/fork-steering-tube-steering-bearing-unit
666901, COMPLETE CARDAN JOINT https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/piaggio-parts/666901 )
The thing is that's terribly expensive (1/10 price of my bike )
If anyone met with substitutes, or tried to regenerate this item?
Best regards
Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 T5, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:23 am quote
Try and find a cheaper supplier or go to a Piaggio dealer. Part costs 67,00€ (including 24% tax) in Greece per one item. It’s your steering and you shouldn’t risk your life by installing anything other than the original part...
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Location: Silesia, POLAND
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:33 am quote
That's huge difference, in Poland that cost 214€ :O
Fuoco and MP3 aren't popular here.
Hooked
2008 fuoco.T3 guzzi california outfit
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Location: United Kingdom.
Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:20 am quote
Piaggio part number is 666901 and as far as i am aware its the same all through the MP3 range and the fuoco. In the UK the price is £146.57p including 20% VAT. There are some used one's on ebay UK look at 192849198143 and 283418335890 there alot cheaper and ask if the sellers will post to Poland. The other way is to buy the part new from Greece ,i have bought parts from Greece as they were alot cheaper new than buying in the UK .
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Location: Silesia, POLAND
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:28 am quote
SaFiS wrote:
Try and find a cheaper supplier or go to a Piaggio dealer. Part costs 67,00€ (including 24% tax) in Greece per one item. It’s your steering and you shouldn’t risk your life by installing anything other than the original part...
You are right, it's wise to buy a new part.
Can you give me website or email address?
Molto Verboso
Kymco AK550
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:47 am quote
I notice that for later models the rubber boot can be ordered separately so if you can find a way of repairing the joint, possibly using a secondhand one, you should be able to repack with grease and use a new boot. The track control rod keeps the wheels pointing in the same direction so it is important, but that doesn't mean that a little play would necessarily lead to it a disastrous total disconnection.
Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 T5, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:49 am quote
Hawk1985 wrote:
Can you give me website or email address?
This is an authorized Piaggio dealer in Thessaloniki. I don't know if they ship parts outside Greece, but give them a try...

http://www.kalemis.gr/eshop/?___store=en

Their emails are: eshop@kalemis.gr & info@kalemis.gr

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 pm quote
The relevant Piaggio tech memo about the steering can be found here:
https://manuals.wotmeworry.org.uk/Piaggio/Piaggio%20MP3/Useful%20Info/
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Location: Silesia, POLAND
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:56 am quote
Thank you all for help
I wrote an e-mail to a dealer in Thessaloniki and I am waiting for an answer
Keep your fingers crossed
Molto Verboso
Kymco AK550
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Location: UK
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:02 am quote
Thanks Jim that's interesting. So the original ( relatively cheap ) ball joints have been superseded by more elaborate hooks joints. My guess is that about 1 in 10 typical dealers workshops would have the capability of correctly implementing the toe in adjustment procedures using that complicated tool, and I'm probably being optimistic.
I think as a home mechanic I would try to set toe in at zero using a wood, string, and tape measure method. Always remembering the old adage "If it ain't broke don't fix it" of course.
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Location: Silesia, POLAND
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:57 pm quote
Pack with parts from Greece arrived yesterday, I wanted to thank you for your help
Hooked
mp3 500 sport
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Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:54 am quote
I bought two from France for my old 300 only cost me 30 euros at the time for two but can’t remember where from
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