ASR traction control
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Hooked
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:53 am quote
Don't forget to calibrate your traction control, it has improved mine beyond belief.
Its not done at the factory.
Hooked
2016 MP3 500cc Sport ABS
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:45 am quote
I don't even know how to do it. I guess I'll have to do it when I'm going to change the tires.
Hooked
2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:41 am quote
I am going to let you borrow my mp3 but don't crash it!!

how exactly do you do that?
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:58 am quote
I'm wondering if you should calibrate the ASR at the same time you change out your headlight fluid?
Hooked
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:33 pm quote
new200guy wrote:
I am going to let you borrow my mp3 but don't crash it!!

how exactly do you do that?
It's quite easy but trying to explain it slightly lengthy.
Page 38 of your Piaggio manual that came with your new bike, titled ASR system calibration procedure.

My bike took slightly longer than as detailed in the manual but now the traction control only cuts in when necessary as it was very sensitive before adjustment. I guess it was just slightly out of sync causing errors.
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:16 pm quote
OK so it's true . Crazy it's not pre-calibrated .

here you go in case anyone needs it.

https://cdnmedia.endeavorsuite.com/images/organizations/05211b9c-b6c7-4840-8e84-2970c2318c24/2016%20MP3%20500%20Sport.pdf
Hooked
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
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Location: England
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:45 am quote
It wasn't an April fools joke.

My throttle control is a lot more positive with ASR on and when it detects a slip allows power back a lot sooner now.
Hooked
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:41 am quote
I was getting the traction control lighting over the slightest bump and not allowing the power to return for some time.
The setup was bad on my 2016 bike but my 2019 one was so bad I started doing some research.
I was thinking Piaggio's traction control should be better than this??!
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2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:00 am quote
When it comes to the MP3 to Programming and the Manual.
If its not broke, don't fix it.

I have learned the hard way, what is perceived to be a problem can cause other headaches. Plus the only true support is here on MV, as most Dealers don't have a Clue.

Keith,
Marietta, GA
Hooked
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:11 am quote
klaborde wrote:
When it comes to the MP3 to Programming and the Manual.
If its not broke, don't fix it.

I have learned the hard way, what is perceived to be a problem can cause other headaches. Plus the only true support is here on MV, as most Dealers don't have a Clue.

Keith,
Marietta, GA
I put up with the poor traction control for 3 years with my last bike hoping the new version would be better.
But imagine my surprise when the new bike was even worse.
But with a little research I found an adjustment that has transformed the bikes power delivery, just thought id share this amazing adjustment with this great forum.
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:21 am quote
ASR traction control MP3 500 sport hpe
So... after being denied power after a normal acceleration from a stop one too many times, I decided I had to do something. I have the US 2020 model which appears to be the hpe engine on a mid-2019 body. I confirmed that the dealer had not done this ASR calibration before I picked up my MP3.

Here is the procedure I followed:
ASR SYSTEM CALIBRATION PROCEDURE.
In order to maintain the effectiveness of the ASR system following the replacement of one or more tyres a calibration procedure of the system must be performed as follows on a straight flat stretch of road.
• It is necessary that the diagnostic phase of the ASR systems and ABS is complete: for this purpose, after switching to «ON», ride a short distance above 5 km/h and wait for the flashing of the two warning lights to stop.
• Allow the engine to idle for at least 5 seconds.
• Pull the brake lever and press the ASR on/off button «1» simultaneously for at least 3 seconds. The activation process will be confirmed by the ASR warning light «2» turning on with slow flashing.
• Accelerate to a constant speed of 30 to 40 km/h and maintain it for at least to 8 seconds. The continuity of the vehicle speed in the correct field to complete the procedure will be confirmed by a very fast flashing of the ASR warning light «2».
• The end of the procedure will be indicated by the steady lighting ASR warning light «2». The ASR system is not active.
• Once the procedure is complete it is necessary to switch to «OFF» and wait for at least 60 seconds before being able to switch again to «ON».
• In case of failure to complete the procedure within 5 minutes the ASR warning light «2» will stay on steady and the ASR will remain off until switching to «OFF».
• To switch again to «ON» it is necessary to reactivate the ASR. It is however necessary to repeat the process until it succeeds.

I tried to initiate the traction control calibration protocol a few times before it finally started responding as described in the manual. There is one difference I observed three times from what is described in the manual, and that is after at least 8 seconds at 30-40 kph where the ASR light is flashing quickly, the ASR light *turns off* rather than lights full on.

Has anyone else observed this light off vs light on when the ASR calibration completes?

Update: tested thoroughly and traction control is much improved after performing this calibration! No longer losing power when trying to accelerate while turning onto highway.

Slomo
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:20 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
I'm wondering if you should calibrate the ASR at the same time you change out your headlight fluid?
Ah yes! The headlight fluid. I must change mine soon. Thanks for reminding me...lol.
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2020 MP3 Sport 500 HPE ABS ASR
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:11 pm quote
Stromrider wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
I'm wondering if you should calibrate the ASR at the same time you change out your headlight fluid?
Ah yes! The headlight fluid. I must change mine soon. Thanks for reminding me...lol.
I tried finding headlight fluid but all I could find was this:

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=22&zenid=ZeGS0fLtsaA46BWgWZ-XQ3

Can it be used instead? I really need to know that my headlights will continue to function properly.

Thank you.
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Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:49 am quote
Yeah, I thought I'd give that a go. Unfortunately, since I filled my blinkers, they seem dead so maybe it's the wrong fluid. I'm not sure if to risk it in the headlight. Currently there is no fluid left in the headlight. I'm thinking it's probably ok to just go ahead and fill the headlight. What d'ya reckon?
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