Modern Vespa

Hello. I stocked up on some Agip oil that my local Vespa shop told me was great but I’m all out and can’t find any. It said 2T city on it.

What is the recommended oil to use? My local place has since closed and the place I went to today the guy didn’t really know the older stuff and said the 2T was engine oil. It’s a 1978 P125X

Will this work? Thanks

Hello. That stuff is fine. (I would go as far as to say it’s too good for a stock motor. By which I mean it’s expensive for what you need).

Ok thanks. What should I be using? Any two-stroke injector oil? Anything I should be looking for specifically? This is what I used to have but can’t find it.

Whatever you can lay your hands on. As long as it’s two stroke oil. Mineral will be fine. The synthetic ones are really for highly tuned motors.

In the late 1950s, I bought a used mid-1950s Allstate Cruisaire (see photo). Ten years later, I acquired a used 1963 Allstate. Back then, I use just plain SAE 30 oil for the 2% pre-mix according to the operator's manual. While it worked, I had real problems with the plug fouling and killing the engine. When that happened, the usual next step was to coast off to the side of the road, take off the engine cowl and remove the spark plug with the Piaggio included spark plug wrench. A small carbon deposit could be seen between the electrode and ground. The carbon particle was removed using a finger nail and off I went again. It was a real pain. Fast forward to the present time, I rebuilt the 1963 Allstate to 150 cc. I also acquired a 2005 US PX150. In both cases, I started to use the Motul 710 100% synthetic 2T oil for pre-mix in the Allstate and for the auto-lub in the PX150. Since then, I have never experienced a plug fouling as a result of a carbon deposit. The new fully-synthetic 2T oils are so much better. I feel they are worth the price. A quart at Amazon cost just $17.45 and will last for a long time. It is worth the peace of mind knowing I will not encounter an engine-killing, plug fouling, carbon deposit while riding. I also feel they provide better lubrication over a wide temperature range.

One more thing, if you use auto-lube and ride in colder weather, the fully synthetic 2T oils will maintain their viscosity for easy flow and not thicken as do the non-synthetic oils. This is a minor issue but something to think about.

Here is the Amazon address for the Motul 710 2t 100% synthetic oil. Shipping is free.

https://www.amazon.com/Motul-104034-710-Synthetic-Motor/dp/B00C739LTY/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=motul+710&qid=1565578530&s=gateway&sr=8-2


Allstate Cruisaire c1955. My old 1947 Harley knucklehead can be seen in the background. Photo was taken in 1959.

Motul 710 fully-synthetic oil.

I use Motul 710 also! Buy it by the gallon in case any friends come by.

I buy any fully synthetic oil that matches or exceeds the jasc rating. and buy it from my local motorcycle dealer by the box which knocks the price down considerably.