Whitewall or Not ? Update: DONE!!!
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Fri May 03, 2019 10:55 am quote
Just a style / vibe question since I have to order a new set of tires....

I love withewall tires, I'm prepared to clean and take care of them, I'm just not sure it would work here... So, the question is - in your opinion - would this scoot look best with them whitewalls, or should I stick with overall red and black vide of the scoot?

PS: I will also need very good quality as I take this bike everyday (that's my only ride).

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Fri May 03, 2019 11:47 am quote
Looks like you prefer a bling level somewhere > 0.
Perhaps this will help you determine Y/N on tires.
Enjoy!

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Fri May 03, 2019 12:20 pm quote
I am thinking of dressing up my white P200, but whitewall tires are not on my list due to the maintenance of trying to keep them clean.

I'm more going to go for a wire wheel hubcap look....
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Fri May 03, 2019 1:10 pm quote
I’m my opinion wide whitewalls are more of a 50’s thing, and even then, a luxury item. Unless you’re going full mod style I don’t think whitewalls look good on Vespas.
In saying that, if it’s what you really want to do, go for it. They’re only tires, if you don’t like it, or get sick of cleaning them you can change them again.
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Fri May 03, 2019 2:27 pm quote
Let's have a look {some PaintShop fiddling... }. Oops, too late,CM already did it & better 'n me.


Not, bad - with all the chrome & being red, I think it works. But of course you have your skinny whitewalls, fatty whitewalls and everything in between so that's gonna affect things.
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Fri May 03, 2019 3:18 pm quote
With what looks like Fred Perry laurels and the checkerboard I'm going to have to say whitewall. If you're going to dress it up may as well do it to the nines. PITA to keep clean but worth it.

Love the scoot BTW.
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Fri May 03, 2019 6:17 pm quote
cool scoot
I was gonna say black until I saw the photoshop.

Whitewall works here. do it.
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Fri May 03, 2019 6:21 pm quote
Do they make checkerwalls?
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Fri May 03, 2019 8:04 pm quote
I like the look of whitewalls, too, but I think they have to match the style of the scooter to look right. I debated getting them for my GS, but white on white... and passed. Here's a VBB with whitewalls (not mine, just a web find), and I think they look great. Not sure about a P-Series, though. I think the P styling is too modern, and as Tyson said, whitewalls look more vintage. That said, if you really love the look, go for it.

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Fri May 03, 2019 11:24 pm quote
No, no, no to whitewalls...In my opinion. They emit an aura of bodginess, they look bad when dirty, and look retched as they age.
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Sat May 04, 2019 4:04 am quote
Tyre/tire pen....easy to do, cheap and cleaning is; well ya just add another coat.

Just the lettering mind you. Whitewalls leave me cold but hey that is OK.
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Sat May 04, 2019 4:50 am quote
They look bodgy because they are our on bodges to make them look fancy. Doesn't mean they don't look good. The scooter certainly looks more Mod with the whitewalls as it adds flair. P200's also didn't come with checker board detailing. I think it also depends on how you dress. If most of the time you wear sneakers and a hoodie from the Gap then no to whitewalls.

Also if it is going to be a daily rider maybe don't do it. They can look crappy pretty quickly. No matter what still a good looking scoot.
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Sat May 04, 2019 5:01 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
If most of the time you wear sneakers and a hoodie from the Gap then no to whitewalls.
One of my students told me this is pretty much the uniform for what's known as a 'fuckboy'. Anything with the Supreme logo puts one in this club as well. A 2005 Vespa PX with whitewalls, sneakers, and a hoody with a Supreme logo across the front. That's dope, dude! 🤣

But honestly, that's a very cool looking scoot.
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Sat May 04, 2019 5:15 am quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
If most of the time you wear sneakers and a hoodie from the Gap then no to whitewalls.
One of my students told me this is pretty much the uniform for what's known as a 'fuckboy'. Anything with the Supreme logo puts one in this club as well. A 2005 Vespa PX with whitewalls, sneakers, and a hoody with a Supreme logo across the front. That's dope, dude! 🤣

But honestly, that's a very cool looking scoot.
Phew. Though I do like a comfy hoodie truth be told. No Gap though.... Think they are all Fred Perry or Lacoste :-/

To me the worst fashion crime known to man is wearing sweat pants outside of the house unless actually participating in a sport.
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Sat May 04, 2019 6:35 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
With what looks like Fred Perry laurels and the checkerboard I'm going to have to say whitewall. If you're going to dress it up may as well do it to the nines. PITA to keep clean but worth it.

Love the scoot BTW.
THANKS.
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Sat May 04, 2019 6:36 am quote
charlieman22 wrote:
Looks like you prefer a bling level somewhere > 0.
Perhaps this will help you determine Y/N on tires.
Enjoy!
OMG that's so cool! THANKS so much.
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Sat May 04, 2019 6:36 am quote
[quote="nomadinsiam"]
Harbinger wrote:
But honestly, that's a very cool looking scoot.
Thanks man.
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Sat May 04, 2019 6:38 am quote
Re: cool scoot
modkuo wrote:
I was gonna say black until I saw the photoshop.

Whitewall works here. do it.
You know what... that's EXACTLY what I thought.

I love whitewall on certain scoots, like cream, 60's green, etc. I was pretty sure it would not work on my scooter. The photoshop changed my mind and I think I'll go for it. At least in the summer time.
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Sat May 04, 2019 6:58 am quote
You'll never get made fun of for not having white walls.
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Sat May 04, 2019 8:45 am quote
A brand new Shinko white wall is the weapon of choice here...



www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKeZfcaOWxw&t=5s

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Sat May 04, 2019 6:01 pm quote
PureDrivenSnow wrote:
You'll never get made fun of for not having white walls.
We got made fun of all the time back when I was a Mod. You got over it though I think part of that was going home with the prettiest girls. Mind you I have no clue where or if there is a Mod culture anymore. Still nothing wrong with a little style and the photoshop of that scoot with whitewalls made the scoot pop.
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Sun May 05, 2019 3:26 pm quote
Go for it if it looks good to you.

I can go with or without whitewalls as it depends on the look.

I like this on whitewalls.

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Mon May 06, 2019 1:49 am quote
OK guys.

Time for recommendation. Safetys being the No.1 and only consideration, (costs irrelevant IMO), what would you recommend? I don't see any Michelin out there and I found some Continental available from my usual dealer...

This looks solid and extremely cool looking. And, yeah, even the threading matters to me... the "modern" thread pattern on my current tires always drove me nuts!!! lol.

Continental the way to go?

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Mon May 06, 2019 1:57 am quote
Here's mine. Not that hard to keep clean. Wipe down with WD40 then wash off with soapy water. They do go slightly yellow over time.

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Mon May 06, 2019 6:00 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
With what looks like Fred Perry laurels and the checkerboard I'm going to have to say whitewall. If you're going to dress it up may as well do it to the nines. PITA to keep clean but worth it.

Love the scoot BTW.
Whitewalls for sure!
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Mon May 06, 2019 7:09 am quote
i once have a whitewall tyre on a vespa i bought 9 years ago


but i like the wheel cover more if u into mods

not bad to hide the 12" rims in the back


good luck on the mods and cheer
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:22 am quote
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!

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Continental all the way!

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Mon May 06, 2019 10:24 am quote
First ride after rebuild

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Here's another one

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Mon May 06, 2019 11:05 am quote
I have Mitas MC22 'Elegance' whitewalls on my P225 tourer. They are 100/80s on SIP 2.50" tubeless rims. I absolutely love the look and the tread pattern looks great compared to the old fashioned (IMHO) Continental type.

[edit] The riding characteristics are great too !!
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Mon May 06, 2019 12:05 pm quote
To me white walls look amazing but I'm a bit on the lazy side. You said you'd maintain them. The only other negative I hear is that they do not last as long.

It's of consideration depending on budgetary constraints.
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Mon May 06, 2019 12:45 pm quote
This came covered in alsorts of shit, the whitewalls are going yellow, sava mc18 tho so grip really well in all weather's. Not sure what I'll replace them with

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Mon May 06, 2019 1:55 pm quote
jocco wrote:
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!
COOL!

Can I put a wheel similar t yours on my scooter, instead of that stock 5-point star wheel, which I don't dig at all? I can't seem to find it on the SIP site!

I mean similar to the one on the left on the picture below (not a brake drum, I know, just similar in look - a hub cover if necessary).

Or am I stuck because of the disk setting?

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Mon May 06, 2019 2:17 pm quote
I don’t have a ‘NSM’, nor Vespa for that matter. But call me a ‘slave’ to fashion, I like the look of a white wall, I like the look of a white wall on my scoot, I hate keeping them clean though.....

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The afternoon I got a new rear tire.

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Mon May 06, 2019 3:21 pm quote
RichardLeeDrums wrote:
jocco wrote:
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!
COOL!

Can I put a wheel like yours on my scooter, instead of that stock 5-point star wheel, which I don't dig at all? I can't seem to find it on the SIP site!

I mean similar to the one on the left on the picture below (not a brake drum, I know, just similar in look).
I dont think you will find a wheel that looks like a brake drum wheel.

There are kits that convert the drum to a disc brake, but since you already have disc from stock its pointless to invest in a kit just to get the look of the drum wheel.

Try and search for some alternative wheels for a front disc vespa.
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Mon May 06, 2019 6:01 pm quote
RichardLeeDrums wrote:
jocco wrote:
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!
COOL!

Can I put a wheel similar t yours on my scooter, instead of that stock 5-point star wheel, which I don't dig at all? I can't seem to find it on the SIP site!

I mean similar to the one on the left on the picture below (not a brake drum, I know, just similar in look - a hub cover if necessary).

Or am I stuck because of the disk setting?
A Stella (LML) has a non-star front wheel that is a disc brake. Should be an easy swap.
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Mon May 06, 2019 7:43 pm quote
Whitewalls on 8's only. (MHO.)

(Note... only your opinion really matters.)
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Mon May 06, 2019 8:03 pm quote
NotAutomatic wrote:
RichardLeeDrums wrote:
jocco wrote:
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!
COOL!

Can I put a wheel similar t yours on my scooter, instead of that stock 5-point star wheel, which I don't dig at all? I can't seem to find it on the SIP site!

I mean similar to the one on the left on the picture below (not a brake drum, I know, just similar in look - a hub cover if necessary).

Or am I stuck because of the disk setting?
A Stella (LML) has a non-star front wheel that is a disc brake. Should be an easy swap.
You mean easy trade...

You could probably find somebody here who's willing to trade hubs with you (depending upon where you live). I'd trade you out a LML/Stella hub for your 5 star, but since i'm located in the US, it probably wouldn't be worth it. You could also buy the earlier style 20mm Grimeca hub as well. https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/brake+drum+grimeca+nt+disc_39031000

Or if you like the Stella "look"... https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/brake+drum+serie+pro+disc_56376300

I've swapped all three of those 20mm hubs around on my scoots to get the look i was after. It was a simple affair.
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:03 pm quote
Can you imagine what Bitza would have thought of this thread?
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Mon May 06, 2019 11:15 pm quote
whodatschrome wrote:
NotAutomatic wrote:
RichardLeeDrums wrote:
jocco wrote:
I ride my Continentals all year round, great tire!
COOL!

Can I put a wheel similar t yours on my scooter, instead of that stock 5-point star wheel, which I don't dig at all? I can't seem to find it on the SIP site!

I mean similar to the one on the left on the picture below (not a brake drum, I know, just similar in look - a hub cover if necessary).

Or am I stuck because of the disk setting?
A Stella (LML) has a non-star front wheel that is a disc brake. Should be an easy swap.
You mean easy trade...

No, I meant "swap". As in, swap out that part for the new one.
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Tue May 07, 2019 2:00 am quote
whodatschrome wrote:
That's THE ONE!!! Perfect for the Mod look I'm going for.

Thanks a million.
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