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Thu May 09, 2019 6:02 am quote
Guess it's a PFW-powered 5-wheeler?

Gotta be pretty hard to have an off at least.

And all yours for $3900

https://morgantown.craigslist.org/mcy/d/morgantown-2008-piaggio-vespa-mp-wheeler/6877821623.html

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Thu May 09, 2019 6:23 am quote
Plus 2
I'm really not sure where to start.

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Thu May 09, 2019 8:40 am quote
It's an MP3 with a Tow-Pac trike kit. http://towpacusa.com/

It turns an MP3 into something that some people think it is in the first place. At least until they try to ride one and it tips over.

We had an MVer a while ago who had one of these. This might even be it.
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Thu May 09, 2019 8:46 am quote
Bonus
I think it eventually broke.......terminally.

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Thu May 09, 2019 9:02 am quote
mpfrank wrote:
It's an MP3 with a Tow-Pac trike kit. http://towpacusa.com/

It turns an MP3 into something that some people think it is in the first place. At least until they try to ride one and it tips over.

We had an MVer a while ago who had one of these. This might even be it.
Smrf had one but I think hers was blue.
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Thu May 09, 2019 9:14 am quote
I dunno.

If only the wheels matched...
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Thu May 09, 2019 3:14 pm quote
That's the biggest set of training wheels I've ever seen.
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Thu May 09, 2019 3:40 pm quote
O.M.G! I clicked the link and saw a Honda Metropolitan with that trike set up!!! I am now rolling on the floor, clutching my sides as the dog looks on and wonders what is so funny.
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Thu May 09, 2019 5:34 pm quote
fledermaus wrote:
I dunno.

If only the wheels matched...
... because IF THEY MATCHED... you wouldn’t be able to resist, right?

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Thu May 09, 2019 5:47 pm quote
David Masse wrote:
fledermaus wrote:
I dunno.

If only the wheels matched...
... because IF THEY MATCHED... you wouldn’t be able to resist, right?

It would just likely push me over the edge.

Half of my winter riding challenges solved too!
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Sat May 11, 2019 12:38 pm quote
Bu....... the front end tilts, the backend doesn't, how do you ride this, this, thing?
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Sat May 11, 2019 1:08 pm quote
Syd wrote:
Bu....... the front end tilts, the backend doesn't, how do you ride this, this, thing?
Actually, the front end doesn't tilt either once you put the Tow-Pak at the back. Someone just successfully turned a $10,000 MP3 into its non-leaning equivalent. Looks like they bought an MP3 thinking it was a trike, then found they had to add a few more pieces.
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Sat May 11, 2019 1:15 pm quote
What a waste. Pick it up, fledermaus and set it free. #Free the MP3!
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Sat May 11, 2019 2:19 pm quote
Syd wrote:
What a waste. Pick it up, fledermaus and set it free. #Free the MP3!


Yeah, it looks like it's dying to be liberated.
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Sat May 11, 2019 2:55 pm quote
Well, lots of negative comments unfortunately.
Nothing wrong with a scooter trike, or any other trike for that matter, for people who have difficulty with two wheelers but still want to enjoy the sensation of riding free.
Eagle Hawk Trike Conversions are very popular here for older 'rockers' who still want to ride.
I have been looking for a trike conversion for my lovely Medley for a while. This might just fit the bill. Provided our very strict 'compliance' requirements would allow it to be used on a public road..
Almost sorry I got rid of my MP3 now.

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Sat May 11, 2019 3:50 pm quote
Breitie wrote:
Well, lots of negative and side splittingly derogatory comments unfortunately.
Nothing wrong with a scooter trike, or any other trike for that matter, for people who have difficulty with two wheelers but still want to enjoy the sensation of riding free.
Why don't you people pour scorn on the Piaggio Ape, one of the most popular three wheeled vehicles all over Italy!
I had a three wheeled Vespa once that we used for delivering goods to customers. I saw nothing wrong with that either and used it extensively, even in my spare time.
Eagle Hawk Trike Conversions are very popular here for older 'rockers' who still want to ride. Nobody is laughing at them either.
I have been looking for a trike conversion for my lovely Medley for a while. This might just fit the bill. Provided our very strict 'compliance' requirements would allow it to be used on a public road.
Almost sorry I got rid of my MP3 now.
I think you're reading too much in to the comments. To me at least it comes across as pretty light hearted. I think the honour that is there is that it does look kind of ugly. c'mon you have to admit aesthetically pleasing it is not and I have trouble looking how an MP3 looks on a good day. That's just my opinion though and everyone has their own.

If a trike keeps someone riding safely more power to them. The key word being safely. Just staying upright does not mean someone should be on the road. There will come a time many of us will need to make that decision and it is not an easy one.
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Sat May 11, 2019 4:45 pm quote
Thank you Mr Harbinger, I always appreciate your mature, fair and well thought out comments.
My response was intended to be a bit 'tongue-in-cheek' to sock it to those who think that motorised trikes are 'odd'.
Besides my Medley I also have an electric MobilityTrike that I use every day because of my disability. Problem is, it only does ten miles per hour. A bit boring.
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Sun May 12, 2019 3:28 am quote
Breitie wrote:
Thank you Mr Harbinger, I always appreciate your mature, fair and well thought out comments.
My response was intended to be a bit 'tongue-in-cheek' to sock it to those who think that motorised trikes are 'odd'.
Besides my Medley I also have an electric MobilityTrike that I use every day because of my disability. Problem is, it only does ten miles per hour. A bit boring.
Oh boy, yeah that would be a bit boring. What they have been dong lately with trikes is interesting and I'm sure the result of the aging population. Less people ride now and those that do tend to be older. I believe the average age is over 50. It's also why we are seeing companies like BMW enter the scooter (urban mobility) market. They don't do something without first doing a lot of market research and determining whether there is a need for it or not.

Youth is wasted on the youth... It's ironic now that I am old enough and a skilled enough rider to buy whatever I want (for the most part) I need to think about it. I bought a Ural now so I can learn how to ride a hack knowing it is something that older riders can use. My excuse of course is I wanted something to ride in the winter but I also know that it and a Vespa will be what I end up with at the end. I'm still plenty healthy enough and have no trouble with bigger bikes but the time will come.

So let's hope that manufacturers keep developing for the aging market. I'm not a HD kind of guy so want something with a little bit more European flair and styling. I also want something of quality and I can't understand why Piaggio only seems to really get it with the Vespa line. It's almost like all the designers on the Vespa team are locked way in a separate room and not allowed to mingle with anyone else. If you look at BMW you can see the same build quality and styling in the C line as the other motorbikes produced by Motorrad. Kymco makes the engine because they are arguably the best in world at it when it comes to high capacity CVT trannys.
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Sun May 12, 2019 10:12 am quote
I don’t have any issues with quality on the Piaggio, Aprilia Scarabeo scooters we’ve owned.

Given how many Piaggio Liberty scooters are on the streets in Europe and their use by the Italian post office quality doesn’t seem to be a real issue. Heck, I’m somewhat considering a Libert for the next cannonball.
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Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 am quote
Breitie wrote:
Well, lots of negative comments unfortunately.
Nothing wrong with a scooter trike, or any other trike for that matter, for people who have difficulty with two wheelers but still want to enjoy the sensation of riding free.
I don't see any negative comments about trikes. My comment was about doing a Tow-Pak conversion to an MP3 which cripples the leaning front suspension capabilities of the bike. Anyone who wants to do a trike conversion on a large scooter is much better off starting with a BV, Majesty, Burgman, Silverwing, or whatever. Why pay extra for an MP3, then cripple the system which makes it an MP3?!?
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Sun May 12, 2019 11:30 am quote
cdwise wrote:
I don’t have any issues with quality on the Piaggio, Aprilia Scarabeo scooters we’ve owned.

Given how many Piaggio Liberty scooters are on the streets in Europe and their use by the Italian post office quality doesn’t seem to be a real issue. Heck, I’m somewhat considering a Libert for the next cannonball.
Not cheap quality they just don't do it for me. I hate to say it but I think maybe I don't like scooters that aren't Vespa, Lambretta or BMW. If you look at the BMW 400's even and compare them to say a BV they (to me) just look better. To be fair though I think they are more expensive. Not positive on that though.
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Sun May 12, 2019 11:32 am quote
Stuff
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Sun May 12, 2019 11:51 am quote
Re: Plus 2
Bill Dog wrote:
I'm really not sure where to start.

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Sun May 12, 2019 1:31 pm quote
Re: Never saw one of these before
fledermaus wrote:
Guess it's a PFW-powered 5-wheeler?

Gotta be pretty hard to have an off at least.

And all yours for $3900

https://morgantown.craigslist.org/mcy/d/morgantown-2008-piaggio-vespa-mp-wheeler/6877821623.html
Thank you Mr Fledermaus (bist du Deutsch?) for drawing attention to motorised trikes because that is an important subject for our time.
This is obvious from the increasing iterations of trikes being offered, from conversions such as this one, to Eagle Hawk, and then of course purpose built ones like the CanAm range, particularly the Ryker that adresses this market head on. Clever Canadians, hey Mr Harbinger.
The video by the TowPac trike conversion people shows that they understand the increasing demand for trikes that enable older bikers to keep on riding as long as possible. May they prosper.
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Sun May 12, 2019 2:39 pm quote
Re: Never saw one of these before
Breitie wrote:
fledermaus wrote:
Guess it's a PFW-powered 5-wheeler?

Gotta be pretty hard to have an off at least.

And all yours for $3900

https://morgantown.craigslist.org/mcy/d/morgantown-2008-piaggio-vespa-mp-wheeler/6877821623.html
Thank you Mr Fledermaus (bist du Deutsch?) for drawing attention to motorised trikes because that is an important subject for our time.
This is obvious from the increasing iterations of trikes being offered, from conversions such as this one, to Eagle Hawk, and then of course purpose built ones like the CanAm range, particularly the Ryker that adresses this market head on. Clever Canadians, hey Mr Harbinger.
The video by the TowPac trike conversion people shows that they understand the increasing demand for trikes that enable older bikers to keep on riding as long as possible. May they prosper.
Yup, CanAm is an option for sure. Trikes built from the ground up to be what they are and solid construction. I'm not ruling one out in my future as even with the Ural there is a fair amount of work involved as it is upper body intensive.

FWIW both my parents are Aussies so I have a soft spot for the country
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Sun May 12, 2019 9:16 pm quote
I met her and her bike on a ride about 8 years ago. I don't remember the comments about why she had this configuration but I believe if was a handicap that didn't allow her to ride a regular PTW'er.

I agree will all the comments, it is a bit unusual. Hey, at least she's out there and as I remember she had a big smile on. It was a cold night and the local club was out looking at Christmas light.

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Sun May 12, 2019 9:38 pm quote
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The Can- Am's might be solid but they aren't very reliable.

They always feature very high on the list of most unreliable bikes available in the US and Canada.

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