Removing PX mirror metal mounts
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Sat May 25, 2019 3:34 pm quote
Other than cutting these off once you have removed the plastic part of the headset has anyone got any easier ideas.

Once you start to unscrew them on my 2008 PX125 they interfere and catch on other parts which will then not allow their removal.

Hacksaw maybe the answer ??
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Sun May 26, 2019 3:25 am quote
Mine rub on the handlebars when I unscrew them but come out no worries.
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Sun May 26, 2019 11:48 am quote
Why not do it right? take both tubes out and remove the mounts.
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Sun May 26, 2019 2:09 pm quote
GickSpeed wrote:
Why not do it right? take both tubes out and remove the mounts.
Can you explain more. Any photos etc. ?
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Sun May 26, 2019 3:19 pm quote
I think you maybe looking at this in a different way. They were designed to wrench and not cut.

Post some pictures of where you're at and which part of the mirror you're having problems with (the mirror or the the stock coming from the headset). Someone should lead you in the right direction. Removing just the mirrors should not be a difficult task with the correct procedures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLW9qw36sf4

Good luck!
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Sun May 26, 2019 5:22 pm quote
If it’s a 2008 it has the tall DISC style mounts that screw into the holes on the underside of the headset and are cast with a “waist” to clear the grip tubes. The tubes have to be slid out of the way to remove them.

They’re a nuisance and have a tendency to snap off leaving the threads stuck in the headset. Their only advantage I know of is they don’t vibrate as much as the older mounts.
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Mon May 27, 2019 6:31 am quote
In order to remove the tubes, you will have to remove the cables and wiring prior. It’s not exactly a fun or quick job. I’ve done it before and it does take time.

Throw up some pics of where you are having problems or questions and I am sure you will get some answers.

All the Best
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Mon May 27, 2019 7:28 am quote
StevieB, are the mounts damaged and unusable or do you not want to have mirrors on your scoot? I went down this route on a PX, but then found that I really missed the mirrors, particularly the right hand for overtaking on a motorway without looking over your shoulders.

Food for thought?
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Mon May 27, 2019 4:17 pm quote
I must have been kissed on the arse by a fairy coz mine came straight out, as I said. If I had to pull the tubes from the headset I'd just ride without mirrors.
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Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:38 am quote
Photograph attached finally - can you see the problem ? Unscrewing the bolts simply come up against the tubes.

I think the only way to do it is to move the tubes along and then unscrew the bolts.

Not an easy job though as indicator wires on one side. May considering cutting through the bolt but leaving some its shape in case I do need to remove properly at a later time.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:03 pm quote
I’m going to piggyback SteiveB’s thread here. It only seems to make sense to me to document a fix for others in the future...


The mirror right side mirror post mount snapped off me a few weeks ago while cruising down the highway. Luckily I caught the mirror with my left hand, so I didn’t loose it in the heavy traffic that I was riding in. I definitely wanted to get the mirror remounted sooner than later.

I could clearly see that the mirror mount post had snapped off flushed in the headset. I removed the headset and hydro master cylinder, and set them off to the side. I removed the pin that holds the plastic throttle thingy to the throttle tube, then pulled the throttle tube a few inches out of the headset.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:06 pm quote
duct tape was used to protect the paint from weld splatter.

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:08 pm quote
I welded a 3/8” nut to the top of the snapped off mirror mount post. The welding does two things, it makes it so that you have something that you can grip with a wrench so that you unscrew the post, and the heat also melts all that thread lock that Piaggio uses in there.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:09 pm quote
I used a 9/16” socket to unwind the post out of the hole.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:11 pm quote
I slathered a new mirror post (that I got from SIP) with high temp thread locker, then screwed it in.

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:19 pm quote
Now’s a good time to clean the inside of your headset up. Also, remove the old hard grease from the throttle tube, and apply some fresh lightweight grease. Of course you will want to do the same thing to the shifter side of the bars as well...so pull the clip, pull the shifter tube out a inch or so, clean it up, then regrease it.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:22 pm quote
Slap it all back together, and go ride.

Safe riding everyone!

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