Piaggio Beverly Center Stand
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:04 pm quote
I just got my Piaggio Beverly scooter today. 2 things:

1. I was trying to get it off the center stand (one hand on the back rail, one on the left hand brake/lever) this evening and it leaned to the right, and laid down. It was down no more than a minute. -No exaggeration. I am feeling absolutely awful about it. Any and all kind words/words of encouragement/solidarity welcome!

2. How do you get it off the center stand WITHOUT dropping it? I tried straddling and just pushing it (hand on left brake lever) and it doesnít budge. Please help!!

Thank you!
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:31 pm quote
Letís get this started...
First...sorry you dropped your new bike.

1) the posture you describe for getting it off the C Stand is actually how you should get it ON. Stand on the left side, left hand on the Brake, right hand on the bar on the back of the seat.

2) to get it off...straddle the bike, both hands on the handgrips (not the brake) and gently rock forward.

I do know that somehow getting it off can be tricky on a slippery floor....but usually it is very simple. It does not take a lot of strength or energy.

I think you just need 10 minutes of practice. Or get a friend to show you. Once or twice and you will get it, itís not that hard.
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:38 pm quote
Re: Letís get this started...
Jimjar wrote:
First...sorry you dropped your new bike.

1) the posture you describe for getting it off the C Stand is actually how you should get it ON. Stand on the left side, left hand on the Brake, right hand on the bar on the back of the seat.

2) to get it off...straddle the bike, both hands on the handgrips (not the brake) and gently rock forward.

I do know that somehow getting it off can be tricky on a slippery floor....but usually it is very simple. It does not take a lot of strength or energy.

I think you just need 10 minutes of practice. Or get a friend to show you. Once or twice and you will get it, itís not that hard.
And, if it starts to slide on a slippery floor, use your foot to stop it ( put it in front of the center stand) and push off a described above. I also use the brakes after it comes off the stand so its doesn't "get away" from me. On the BV, you'll be OK using the side stand. I very seldom use the center stand- when doing maintenance and if it on "iffy" ground. Both stands work great holding the scooter upright. Sorry to hear about your mishap. Stuff does happen so don't beat yourself up about it. In the grand scheme of things......

Congrats on the scoot- you'll love it.

Bob
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:36 pm quote
BVBob wrote:
And, if it starts to slide on a slippery floor, use your foot to stop it ( put it in front of the center stand) and push off a described above. I also use the brakes after it comes off the stand so its doesn't "get away" from me.
This is pretty much how I take a BV off the center stand as well. The stand will slide on the cement in the garage so I block the front of the stand with my foot, and push with my left hand on the grip and my right hand on the grab rail. And I do use the brake to keep the bike from rolling too far forward.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:53 am quote
Thanks guys; Iím going to try again today. I just felt so guilty and like a total dolt for laying it down. I didnít have this issue with my old Genuine Buddy scooter; much lighter, much much smaller. I just had a moment of panic of ďwhat if I upgraded to something I canít (and wonít ever be able to) handle?Ē But after a good nightís rest, I feel much better. Thanks for your words; Iíll keep you posted.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:54 am quote
Oh! And, itís parked on the street, not a slippery surface. A few mentions of this but itís not indoors (yet). Over the winter it will be. Thanks again for all your encouragement and advice.
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:21 am quote
Sand and gravel can be slippery on concrete and asphalt. Also be careful when stopping at a stoplight/sign etc.. If there's sand/gravel the front wheel can slip and cause a drop or if you put your foot down in sand/gravel when stopping you can drop it. Have fun and welcome to MV!
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:50 am quote
You cannot get it off tbe stand if you are holding the brakes as the wheel wheel will not turn. Also be aware. some of these had center stands that broke. Cheap fix. I think the recall if there was one expired? Stand is lke 30 bucks. Easy to replace. Linked brakes so left lever works rear and part of front.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:04 am quote
Thanks, Oss! Iíll keep a look out.

Also, I think Iím just going to use the sidestand. I bought a 2018, not sure if that changes the recall but I didnít hear anything about it. Heading out shortly for a ride.

Also, thanks for the tip on the rear brake, Zigza. I wasnít sure if that had something to do with it. All helpful.

Cheers!
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:27 am quote
I only use the center stand for oil changes,etc.
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:29 am quote
zigzagguzzi wrote:
You cannot get it off tbe stand if you are holding the brakes as the wheel wheel will not turn. Also be aware. some of these had center stands that broke. Cheap fix. I think the recall if there was one expired? Stand is lke 30 bucks. Easy to replace. Linked brakes so left lever works rear and part of front.
I can find no mention that the BV 350 has linked brakes in any of the user or workshop manuals. Can you provide a reference please?
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:30 am quote
Stamp
My BV 350 did not have linked brakes.

Fact.

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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:33 am quote
My 2015 did. It also did not have abs, . So i wonder if they took iff the linked brakes when abs as added? If so, it was a plus. Google bv350 linked brakes.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:59 pm quote
Thanks guys! I went out to ride today and came face to face with a completely twisted mirror. Still trying to figure out HOW that happened, but nevermind. I have a friend who used to be a mechanic and he came and fixed the mirror AND took my bike off the center stand so I will NEVER BE MAKING THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. Nice work around if you ask me and all it cost me was two ice cream cones. Thanks again. By the by, my bike has the ABS/ASR on the breaks. Itís a 2018; not sure if that makes a difference.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:51 am quote
Unless I'm misinterpreting the Workshop Manual, the brakes are linked:

BV350 Workshop Manual - brakes.jpg

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2017 Piaggio BV350
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Location: Irving, TX
Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:56 am quote
As for the center stand, I exclusively park using it. I may have used the side stand once or twice in the year I've had this BV, and maybe a half-dozen times in the two years I had my first BV.

My method for taking it off the stand:
ē Stand on the left side of the bike
ē Hold left grip with left hand, with two fingers covering the brake lever
ē Hold passenger handle with right hand
ē Place left foot at front edge of center stand
ē Shift/pull the bike forward, without lifting with the right hand
ē Once the rear wheel hits the ground, engage the left brake lever

I have yet to drop the bike using this method.

I've tried the straddle method, and it doesn't work for me.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:21 pm quote
monogodo wrote:
Unless I'm misinterpreting the Workshop Manual, the brakes are linked:
"the front disc is served by a pressure filler valve" - ah, right. that'll be similar to the old X9 rear brakes then, when if there was more than a certain amount of pressure on the rear brake, a small proportion would be sent to a front disc.

So a hard grip on the rear brake would make the front wheel hard to turn, but a gentle grip should have no affect. It was pretty difficult on the X9 to grip the rear brake hard enough to make removal from the centre stand tricky, but most owners who encountered that would learn to move the bike off the centre stand without using brakes much at all, but grab the rear brake just as the rear wheel hit the ground.

This might be the best method on this bike.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:47 pm quote
Finally got out
Hey all,
I went out for a ride today. Just some local roads and down the main drag to pick up a few groceries. I forget who said it, but I am definitely not having any trouble acclimating to the power/speed on this thing. And I wasnít going past 45 mph. Still REALLY need to work on corners/turns. Taking them a bit wider than Iíd like. But yeah, itís running nicely, the air is off my chest thanks to the windscreen, and the only real noise Iím getting is from my own helmetís vents. Very pleased to have gotten in a good local-road hour ride today. Will be back out on the road tomorrow. This weekend a longer far-ish ride. And lots of drills!
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:19 pm quote
Re: Finally got out
Karlsbadd wrote:
Hey all,
I went out for a ride today. Just some local roads and down the main drag to pick up a few groceries. I forget who said it, but I am definitely not having any trouble acclimating to the power/speed on this thing. And I wasnít going past 45 mph. Still REALLY need to work on corners/turns. Taking them a bit wider than Iíd like. But yeah, itís running nicely, the air is off my chest thanks to the windscreen, and the only real noise Iím getting is from my own helmetís vents. Very pleased to have gotten in a good local-road hour ride today. Will be back out on the road tomorrow. This weekend a longer far-ish ride. And lots of drills!
Consider wearing earplugs if you don't already use them. I won't go down the driveway without them. They make riding so much more enjoyable and they save your hearing. Happy to hear you're getting used to the scoot.

Bob
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:57 pm quote
Thanks, Bob. Might just do that. It's not terrible, to be honest. I will say the absolute must have mod on those bike is the Steibel horn. The horn on this bike is put to shame by the one on my Buddy Blackjack. honestly, what was piaggio thinking??
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:48 am quote
Shhh. Not so loud. The horn haters will hear you
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Location: NJ
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:04 am quote
I think horns are important in order to alert a driver that may not or clearly DOES not see me. But using them as a form of expression I'm against. That being said, all my horn (as it currently stands) is going to do is ask timidly, "excuse me, um, I'm here but maybe you don't... I could always just... I'll just get out of your way by pretending to be invisible." The other horn I've got is a lot more imposing! Haters be damned; I like being heard.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:02 am quote
This is the one I have.

https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-Protective-3AG-003-399-801/dp/B000CRZXPI/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_263_bs_t_1/139-5618778-3723005?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GY3X5QGRS0K36GSRDTCDIf

You won't be able to get both in yours with ABS. Or you can try to install a broken apart air horn. Don't know anything about air horns. Use the search. Plenty of info.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Location: NJ
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:20 am quote
Hey Breakn,
Are you saying I won't be able to get a Stiebel installed on my BV?
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2016 BV350 ABS
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:54 pm quote
Iím in NJ also and love my BV350. And, I used to have a Buddy myself! If you need any help in person, maybe we can meet up.

Be safe! Youíre gonna love that bike!
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Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:24 am quote
Karlsbadd wrote:
Hey Breakn,
Are you saying I won't be able to get a Stiebel installed on my BV?
You may just have to separate it into two pieces and run a short hose between the two pieces. I had to do that on my MP3.
Thought I read a post that the new ones may not be able to be separated.
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
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Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:58 pm quote
Thanks for the heads up.
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