PT Danmotors Super-T & more
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:31 am quote
I found a local guy that has a stash of PT Danmotors Vespas for sale. Mostly Super T's, I think some P ranges, maybe some Sprint versions too. I havn't seen them all , only a few pics so far. What I have seen is a little rough looking... but says he has about 10 to sell.

I have done some research here and online about Danmotors. So I know the basics details of them being licensees for Piaggio, years and most of the avaiable models. I read through searches/threads on this site. I also know that even if the high quality bikes were sold off the lot, they were most likey ridden hard through the years... I also know they can come with some interesting featuers. Trap headset with small speedo and 3 port case! P-series square headset ala MotoVespa, etc

I'm not necessarily looking to buy, but tempted if there is anything actually worth bringing home. 10 scoots just sitting there is a sad sad thing 10 rotten death traps is a more sad thing haha. So just wondering the experts thoughts on this one

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Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:21 am quote
Not an expert but from my research they made an excellent product. As you know it is what happened after that is the issue. Years of hard use then bodgery.

That barely ridden untouched Danmotors Vespa is like hensí teeth.

That single photo says it ainít one of them.

Why 10? Whatís the story to this all? Collecting bodges? Was he looking for hensí teeth and after 10 tries at the lottery gave up?

Of course there is the chance that one of them or even the other 9 are all amazing. Just probably less chance than hitting the lottery.
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:44 am quote
I'm not sure why he has so many, still in talks. Will see if I have some time to swing by and see/talk in person; as its not too far from me. That green one is their personal bike, so I believe they are from Indonesia and brought them over as an 'investment'.

TBH, I'm pretty sure the rest are even worse. Ridden hard and put away sloppy wet. So my hopes aren't high. But maybe worth a look just to see what else is there
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:32 am quote
Research done...
Bodgespotting

Even though I don't mind the DanMotors Motors
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:08 am quote
Thanks for the link. I know ALL about them bodges

Anyone on here actually have/had a Danmotors Vespa? My concern would be that even if one of these looks solid, even if JUST for the motor; who knows what lurks inside.... risky risky risky. But yeah, one of them motors would be nice...

TBH I mostly just want one of those trap+small clam headsets for a future project.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:13 am quote
Got some photos

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:30 am quote
First one looks like a P150S with the square headset. This one could be a great project. The others are crap...

But usually, Indonesian restos are not that bad as their Vietnamese cousins...

I would defo grab the P...
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:19 pm quote
about the PS150 from this thread: Dan Motor Indonesia
Dan Motor Indonesia

As explained by: koenig blues

vespa ps 150 (1989-80's) i am not familiar with this model but i know it have super 150 engine inside but bigger crankshaft and diffirent gear ratio but still have 8" tyre and not using trail link suspesnsion like other p series and the frame were already build with p series (although in first year this model still have glovebox in the left cowl and no turn signal and no battery) the last year they come out with turn signal, battery and spare tyre were under the left cowl similar with px 150 but have a giant square head
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:42 pm quote
If that's a PS, nab it. Very cool.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:43 pm quote
I have a P150S and love it. It's an ongoing project

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:57 pm quote
PS150
Nice!! Love the blue. I've always liked the big square headset. Digging the P frame down on 8" wheels. Any details to offer?

Hoping I can go see these this weekend, waiting on the seller.
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:33 pm quote
Iíd be willing to buy the lot of them for $1k, and do this to them on my farm...

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:16 pm quote
whodatschrome wrote:
Iíd be willing to buy the lot of them for $1k, and do this to them on my farm...
Vespa Art Farm!
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:15 pm quote
I have one
It's a Super T. Stamped 1977-born VBC engine and frame. It's a unique bike, however. It's got the trap headset with a speedo in km, plus shop made cowls and front fender, early acorn tail light, funny stuff like that. Oddly, everything functions well on it. 6V system, no battery. Pre-mixed gas.

Folks on MV-NSM helped me determine it was originally built by PT Danmotor, probably with a 3 port engine. Sadly, it does not have the Super cowls or front mudguard, and I don't have the story behind that. Also, it sports a sheet metal plate over the tunnel area between the floorboards, I've heard that's sometimes seen on scattered classic Indo Vespas, but fortunately for me I can find no signs of any frame bodgery or serious rust. It also has an Indo license plate -- Bali area -- which I've kept on it because... well, tropical, summery New England.

I've maintained it in the few years I've owned it, replacing the carb, tires and suspension, other little things, but since the motor pulls strong I haven't rebuilt it yet. It's been reliable, but it's just an occasional coffee-getter for me (I have other bikes and I like to show them all some love, when they actually work that is... )

I'm ready to bust into this engine maybe this winter and see what's what inside there (now that I've rebuilt a few Vespa motors within the last year). I paid little for this one at an estate sale that almost no one attended, so if it's semi-bodged and packed like a jack in the box with springs and shrapnel, I figure it's already given me a fair amount of thrills at least.

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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:26 pm quote
Love this bike! Looks like it's in pretty decent condition and I am a sucker for the multi blue look .


I'd swap my left whatever for that mudguard crest .
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:24 pm quote
zachyzach This is a beautiful scoot! Thanks for sharing the story and history. I love to hear the back story. The blue is sharp!
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 am quote
They all look pretty shite to me
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:17 pm quote
Re: I have one
zachyzach wrote:
It's a Super T. Stamped 1977-born VBC engine and frame. It's a unique bike, however. It's got the trap headset with a speedo in km, plus shop made cowls and front fender, early acorn tail light, funny stuff like that. Oddly, everything functions well on it. 6V system, no battery. Pre-mixed gas.

Folks on MV-NSM helped me determine it was originally built by PT Danmotor, probably with a 3 port engine. Sadly, it does not have the Super cowls or front mudguard, and I don't have the story behind that. Also, it sports a sheet metal plate over the tunnel area between the floorboards, I've heard that's sometimes seen on scattered classic Indo Vespas, but fortunately for me I can find no signs of any frame bodgery or serious rust. It also has an Indo license plate -- Bali area -- which I've kept on it because... well, tropical, summery New England.

I've maintained it in the few years I've owned it, replacing the carb, tires and suspension, other little things, but since the motor pulls strong I haven't rebuilt it yet. It's been reliable, but it's just an occasional coffee-getter for me (I have other bikes and I like to show them all some love, when they actually work that is... )

I'm ready to bust into this engine maybe this winter and see what's what inside there (now that I've rebuilt a few Vespa motors within the last year). I paid little for this one at an estate sale that almost no one attended, so if it's semi-bodged and packed like a jack in the box with springs and shrapnel, I figure it's already given me a fair amount of thrills at least.
hey there Brother Z, ur is indeed a Indo bike, the front fender and the cowl it does a super cowl but is someone already reshape it to look more rounded, i see it so many time here and yes ur blue is indeed look sharp
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:06 am quote
koenig blues wrote:
zachyzach wrote:
It's a Super T. Stamped 1977-born VBC engine and frame. It's a unique bike, however. It's got the trap headset with a speedo in km,

hey there Brother Z, ur is indeed a Indo bike, the front fender and the cowl it does a super cowl but is someone already reshape it to look more rounded, i see it so many time here and yes ur blue is indeed look sharp
Hi there Ebeth! Quick question for you, if you happen to know: these PT Danmotor 150 Supers... I havenít cracked the cases yet on the blue one here, but wondered - if it has the 3port engine like people expect, and the larger crank, does that mean the crank and even cruciform are same as the P series or still like the standard earlier sprint/super. I do want to replace the shifting cross this winter. Thanks!
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:21 pm quote
zachyzach wrote:
koenig blues wrote:
zachyzach wrote:
It's a Super T. Stamped 1977-born VBC engine and frame. It's a unique bike, however. It's got the trap headset with a speedo in km,

hey there Brother Z, ur is indeed a Indo bike, the front fender and the cowl it does a super cowl but is someone already reshape it to look more rounded, i see it so many time here and yes ur blue is indeed look sharp
Hi there Ebeth! Quick question for you, if you happen to know: these PT Danmotor 150 Supers... I havenít cracked the cases yet on the blue one here, but wondered - if it has the 3port engine like people expect, and the larger crank, does that mean the crank and even cruciform are same as the P series or still like the standard earlier sprint/super. I do want to replace the shifting cross this winter. Thanks!
it depend on the year Brother Z, if its a late 1977-1979 it does have a 3 port and 19mm crank but the cruciform is the same as sprint/super.. danmotor basicly didn't change the gearing to efl model until 1986 so the its basicly the same, hope thats help and cheer Brother Z
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