Hauling scooters
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Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:26 pm quote
This Is just a FYI post for those of you that are looking for a way to haul your scooters, but you donít want to break the bank account. There are many ways to haul your scooters around. The obvious...small trailer, but some really only need to haul one scooter instead of multiple scoots. You could certainly put them in the back of your truck, but my truck has a cover for the bed. So I went shopping around for a way to haul just one scooter and not spend a ton of money. This is what I came up with, cost me I think less than 250.00. It has a 600lb capacity. Pretty sure I would not come close to that number, but I figured if I bought a carrier that exceeded the weight capacity of the scooter by 250lbs it would meet my expectations as far as strength and durability.
Again just another way to transport your scooter from place to place SAFELY.

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Hooked
59" Allstate
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:24 pm quote
Sweet. Nice truck too.
Hooked
P125x (P200 Motor)
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:25 pm quote
For $200 you could get a trailer that has other uses.


Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Location: Central california
Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:12 pm quote
Hauling scooters
Yes a trailer is nice, but some people dont have the room for a trailer, nor do they want the expense of owning a trailer. A motorcycle carrier I thought would be a great alternative to a trailer. Like I said I thought it was pretty cheap....coming in less than 250.00.
Ossessionato
73 Rally, 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 63 Li125, 65 Li225 Silver Special, 86 Elite 80, 2015 HD Road Glide Special, 2011 Ural Tourist
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:18 pm quote
Lots of ways.

Mine is to buy a used Joe Hauler off Craigslist. 4 straps. Two under the headset but above the leg shield leading forward. Then one strap through the gaps in each tire where the hub bolts to the rim. That way the tire canít move, the paint is protected and the scooter stays upright.

Again, lots of ways
Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:13 pm quote
A lot of smaller cars over here have a tow hook weight limit of < 90KG and a typical Vespa would be too much. Good solution if you have a big truck though
Hooked
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:59 pm quote
Sjanuary.. one potential problem that needs to be considered when thinking about tow ball bike carriers is the overhang and the effect that can have dealing with gradients. On certain vehicles it can turn into a PIA.

PS: Do you have the matching Barbie Campervan that goes with Ken's truck? lol
Hooked
P125x (P200 Motor)
Joined: 06 May 2019
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Location: Alexandria, VA
Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:03 am quote
Re: Hauling scooters
Sjanuary wrote:
Yes a trailer is nice, but some people dont have the room for a trailer, nor do they want the expense of owning a trailer. A motorcycle carrier I thought would be a great alternative to a trailer. Like I said I thought it was pretty cheap....coming in less than 250.00.
You already have it, so you will justify it, but a trailer can easily take up little more room than that carrier. There are folding options that stand up and take less than 2' of wall space. Expense? Well, in VA, it is $50 to register it permanently, and properly stored it won't cost anything else.
Ossessionato
1976 Super (x 2), 1974 Primavera (x 2), 2006 Fly 150
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:46 am quote
I have the same set up as you Scott... simple, light, ez. Trailerís nice to have but too big for hauling one scooter around. Got mine on Craigslist for $75.
Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 am quote
Hauling scooters
No Jim, missing the whole point. Not trying to justify anything That I have boughten, just giving a another way to haul one scooter with out a trailer safely. The carrier seems to work well, and again it doesnít break the bank.
By the way I have a trailer also....no need to justify.

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Hooked
58 VB1T, 81 100 Sport
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Location: Long Beach, CA
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:05 am quote
Good tip Sjanuary! Love the red matching truck and scoot.

Anybody use one of these hitch-type carriers on a car? small car? As another poster said, I'd be a little concerned with the overhang + weight on a car. Obviously not an issue on a big truck

I'll be upgrading by ride soon, and thinking of a Golf. Good for my everyday use, good for hauling scooter parts; maybe not so good hauling a complete Vespa wheels up. Single carrier hitch could be good solution
Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:39 am quote
Hauling scooters
GeekLion: probably not going to work on a car 🚗 but a small suv it would work on. As long as you have a class 3 or 4 hitch receiver, which most do.
Hooked
58 VB1T, 81 100 Sport
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:53 am quote
Re: Hauling scooters
Sjanuary wrote:
GeekLion: probably not going to work on a car 🚗 but a small suv it would work on. As long as you have a class 3 or 4 hitch receiver, which most do.
Thats what I was thinkin
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:35 am quote
How to break the tubes
The above video shows what happens when you over tighten ratchet straps on a canyon dancer. Painful for a Vintage Vespa.

A really good place to avoid this is to use a well padded strap above the leg shield and around the neck..

On the back hopefully you have a luggage rack for some safe points.

Happy Hauling...
Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:27 am quote
Hauling scooters
Good info ride Tahoe...you cannot tighten the canyon dancers too tight. The majority of the strength from the tie downs is around the neck. The canyon dancers are more for just a back up.
Thanks for the informative info.
Hooked
1974 Vespa 125 Primavera, 1980 Bajaj Chetak, 1962 Lambretta 175TV3, 2006 Yamaha Vino
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 am quote
I have one of thee Versahauls and it's great, but I can't use it on the back of my car (a Hyundai Elantra GT) so I have to borrow an SUV. It's still super handy though. I can tow a trailer with my car but I have no place to store a trailer.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:12 am quote
One of my friends has a lighter duty moto carrier that he has on the back of his Volvo wagon. His car has a 2'' receiver. It doesn't seem to have any problems carrying around his Smallframe track bike (and all his parts and tools). But for the most part, i don't see most (if any) small cars being about to carry a scooter on the back because of their sheetmetal unibody frame...now if someone were to renforce the heck out of the frame rails and weld in a 2'' receiver, (and overload airbags) then that might work.

I have two different Versa-Haul carriers, a single bike carrier and a double bike. I also have a friend's (off brand carrier that has a aluminum tray, so it's MUCH lighter than a Versa-Haul, but it still has a 500lb weight limit) that i store in my shop. I've carried a fat KLR650 in the front receiver while a KTM525 and Husky 501 were on the rear hitch on my 3/4 ton dodge. What alot of non-Californians don't realize is that the speed limit in Cali is limited to 55mph when towing a trailer.

I've carried around my heavy KTM 950A around on the back of my Econoline van for a few thousand miles with no problems on my Versa-Haul. I lke that there's less to worry about when compared to a trailer...such as finding parking, not worrying about fixing a trailer tire, wiring, wheel bearings, backing up, better fuel economy, ect...

As to Canyon Dancers...well, i've not had any issue with them snapping headsets myself, i hear of stories of it happening. Of the thousands of miles i have of using a Canyon Dancer on P series, i have had zero problems. Plus the P headsets are pretty darn strong when compared to a Lammy headset. I go extra light with the tension when strapping down my Lammys.
Hooked
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:33 pm quote
nice!...i'm not a fan of ratchet straps...instead i use cam straps similar to these (also make them with hooks if wanted)...much easier to use and wrap around things without causing damage...i've used ratchet straps with hooks and just looped the hook end over the strap and slipped it over the ends of the bars like canyon dancers but most of the time i tied down using the triple tree on motorcycles instead of the ends of the bars which are not accessible on scooters...on a scooter i'd probably tie down the same way...i'd just put most of the initial pressure on the head tub and less on the ends of the bars

in the rear i usually go through the rear tire and back and down to the corners and then i'll throw a towel over the seat and go straight over and down...but this is typically with a trailer or the back of a pickup so it's wider and i feel better about the angles and tie down locations vs a thin tray

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RGWGHW/?coliid=I10AHLX0TEKRLL&colid=1DR8JDCNC34IS&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
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1960 Allstate VNA, 1962 VNB
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Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 pm quote
Re: Hauling scooters
Sjanuary wrote:
This Is just a FYI post for those of you that are looking for a way to haul your scooters, but you donít want to break the bank account. There are many ways to haul your scooters around. The obvious...small trailer, but some really only need to haul one scooter instead of multiple scoots. You could certainly put them in the back of your truck, but my truck has a cover for the bed. So I went shopping around for a way to haul just one scooter and not spend a ton of money. This is what I came up with, cost me I think less than 250.00. It has a 600lb capacity. Pretty sure I would not come close to that number, but I figured if I bought a carrier that exceeded the weight capacity of the scooter by 250lbs it would meet my expectations as far as strength and durability.
Again just another way to transport your scooter from place to place SAFELY.
I used one similar to that on a trip from Cambria to San Francisco. It held my Allstate just fine.
Hooked
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Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:21 pm quote
Hauling scooters
FNG. Check your p.m. box
Lurker
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:24 pm quote
Another alternative is a MOTOW Hitch Lift with a 300 lb. load limit. You load it from ground level, then lift up to 16Ē. The way it works is you connect MOTOW into your 2Ē receiver, then attach almost any rack into its 2Ē hitch. If you donít have a rack, a scooter rack is available. Itís motorized or non-motorized, all solid stainless steel. Made here in the US. Check it out https://MotowUS.com

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Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:38 pm quote
Hauling scoots
Thatís cool....Iíve not seen that particular one before, it looks like it could be a bit pricey. Easy one person loading though!!!
Lurker
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:50 pm quote
Itís new, and priced below market value and way below the cost of a trailer. Plus the lifts weigh 23-28 lbs. so they are simple to store when not in use.
Hooked
1955 Allstate 1958 lambretta 1965 Allstate 1968 sprint
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:31 pm quote
Hauling scoots
Not sure what market value is....I paid less than 300.00 for my carrier. Says it can carry 500lbs....donít quote me on that, but if I remember right it sound right. Anyway it works nice.
The best thing I can see about yours is that loading would be easier. I assume your selling them.
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:01 am quote
Itís $495. And Yes we are a new company and manufacture them in Massachusetts. You can attach it to a Class 2, 3, 4 hitch. Hereís how it looks.

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Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:07 am quote
The motorized model is $695 and has a 300 lb. load limit

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Molto Verboso
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:28 am quote
That's pretty cool Motow.

I went this route though. I bought a cheap ole rack from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018SCMIR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then bought this anti sway clamp from, yup, Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792RDPD6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then I added a 34" piece of angle iron under one of the ramp mounting arms, so I could get some triangle action going when I tie it down. I found my thin tie down straps were slipping into the headset/body cavity, so I cut up an old peanut butter container to cover the groove and keep the strap out of the groove.

I got a better set of straps though. When we got to families house in Placerville, CA, my nephew turned me on to these cool straps: https://www.worksconnection.com/p18164-tie-downs They work so well I snaked his pair and sent him new ones.

Ruby didn't budge in 1,100 miles. The rack worked perfectly. I've got an aluminum ramp that is 5' to 10' adjustable, and I'll replace the one that came with this one, which is about 3' long, which is next to useless, unless you're parked next to a steep incline.

Not the best of pics, and not even of the new straps, but you get the idea...

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On our 97 Winnebago Adventurer - 30'

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From the front.

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In action. That's mount Shasta in the background - somewhere along the I-5 at a rest area...

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Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:55 pm quote


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