Used Vespa GT200, issues to look for?
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:26 am quote
I am going to look at a 2005 Vespa GT200 with 5100 miles on it. I have owned an LX150 for a couple of months and like it, no real reason to upgrade except that this GT200 is really cheap. In fact suspiciously cheap, to the point I am bringing someone with me (so I won't get robbed) and plan on checking out the title and the owner's drivers license really carefully.

Background that he gave me:
He has owned the scooter for less than a year, bought it from his neighbor who owned it for less than a year. (RED flag #1)

He came down $200 in price without me asking him to while on the phone, before I have even gone to look at it. A week ago, he was asking $2100, then $1650 and now $1450 after my conversation with him. (RED flag #2)

He mentioned he took it to a local Vespa shop to have them look it over, they changed the oil and air filter and has the receipt. I am wondering if they told him, it's a 14 year old scooter, it needs new tires, a new belt, rollers, the fuel lines should be replaced, valve adjustment etc, and handed him a $1500 or more estimate which is why he is selling it. I can handle these items, and kind of expect to if I can't prove to myself they have been done.

Any advice on what I should look for, outside of those items? I am thinking steering bearings, rust issues...

Thanks for the help.
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:38 am quote
From my area you would take the chassis number and you would check the frame and engine registration.
Mechanically I would check if the frame is crooked, wheel alignment and if the steering is dancing ... sorry, here it says so.
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:43 am quote
Make sure it has a clean title. I'd suggest running a CarFax or similar on it to make sure it wasn't previously or is currently salvaged. That would seriously impact its value and potentially your ability to insure or register it. There was a local listing here for a GTS300 for $2,000 and one of the images displayed the VIN. I ran a check on it and sure enough it was a salvage title (which the listing conveniently did not disclose -- gotta love Craigslist!).

The carburetor is quite a pricy replacement item so make sure it doesn't have any issues starting, idling, accelerating, etc. Of course some issues can be cured with a good carb clean but if it's past the point of no return, you're looking at $300-400 for a new one.

$1,450 is a great deal if everything checks out but some have scored GTs in decent shape for $1,000. Mine was in showroom condition and meticulously maintained and I paid $1,800. It's also getting toward the end of riding season (especially for you up in MN so that may also be a factor in his willingness to sell.

Good luck, GTs are amazing scoots!
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:33 pm quote
Sounds like a great deal. Congrats! Luv my GT200. One of my favorite bikes ever. And this is after multiple Ducatis, BMW's, Moto Guzzi, HD, etc........

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Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:58 pm quote
Thanks everyone for the information and advice. Much appreciated. I did miss the note about getting a CARFAX, I wouldn't have thought of that, that would have been a good idea.

I spent 2 hours at the sellers house looking at it and ended up buying it, nice guy who just moved and with two new cars and a new spouse, needed room in the garage.

The fuel lines and vacuum lines have been replaced. The tires have been replaced and just a month ago the oil was changed and he had receipts from a local Vespa shop for the work. I don't see anything about a new belt, so that may have to get done sooner rather than later.

I then rode it home, which ended up being about 70 miles on the freeway with no issues, so hopefully it's in good shape and will not end up being a project.

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Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:04 pm quote
Looks great!!
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:38 am quote
Glad it worked out!
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:20 am quote
You got a great scooter for a great price.

It is going to contribute to improving your life significantly.

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Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:40 am quote
May as well change the brake fluid and coolant while you are thinking about it.
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 am quote
I was at a dual sport rally all weekend, and have not had a chance to do much with it. I did pull the windshield off as well as the top box for now. Is it possible to pull the belt cover off and at least inspect the belt without any special tools?

My wife also informed me that I can't have two scooters in the garage, so I will probably have to sell the LX150 I just bought two months ago, which is to bad as it is the perfect vehicle for my 3 mile commute on city streets.
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:23 am quote
fafnir wrote:
Is it possible to pull the belt cover off and at least inspect the belt without any special tools?
To remove the transmission cover, you'll need a clutch holding tool. If you're handy you can make one ( GT200 / GTS 250 Clutch Holding Tool. ) but the one I have and use is the Buzzetti one: https://scooterpartsco.com/vespa/gt-200/gt-200-tools-and-repair/clutch-tool-for-vespa-piaggio-and-aprilia-scooters

That's the only tool you need to remove the transmission cover. If you want to inspect the variator/rollers, etc. you'll also need the variator holding tool: https://scooterpartsco.com/vespa/gt-200/gt-200-tools-and-repair/variator-tool-for-vespa-piaggio-and-aprilia-125-200

There's a great thread on how to remove the transmission cover (and more) here: GT200 CVT belt and rollers replacement.
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:42 pm quote
fafnir wrote:
I was at a dual sport rally all weekend, and have not had a chance to do much with it. I did pull the windshield off as well as the top box for now. Is it possible to pull the belt cover off and at least inspect the belt without any special tools?
The problem with this approach is that worn out belts often look and measure very much like new. So inspection can be deceiving. Best to go by age and miles, in my opinion.
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My wife also informed me that I can't have two scooters in the garage, so I will probably have to sell the LX150 I just bought two months ago, which is to bad as it is the perfect vehicle for my 3 mile commute on city streets.
You will need to find yourself a loophole. Maybe buy a cover and park it outside? Or build a shed?
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:18 am quote
In all fairness she pointed out that there are currently 6 motorized 2-wheeled vehicles in the garage. One of which has a sidecar attached. I do need to thin the herd a bit. I have a very patient and understanding spouse.
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:36 am quote
That is a very clean GT200 and you got one heck of a deal. If you already have the tools for the LX150 Variator and Clutch, they are the same ones for this engine.
If you do plan on taking off the variator to inspect the belt, rollers, etc, make sure you have one of the one use nuts Piaggio uses, because even if you put it all back together, you are supposed to replace the nut.
I have three of the things (and would have bought that one if I saw it up for sale) and WLeuthold is assembling quite a collection of them, so you should be able to get some pretty good tips about any problems you run into. Getting the engine warm and running through a couple tanks of fresh gas is probably the best thing you can do for it before you build a laundry list of things to replace. That way you will have a better idea of what you are working with.

Here's just about everything GT 200 related.

https://scooterpartsco.com/vespa/gt-200
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