Got my Vespa Cosa 200........ what's next
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Vespa Cosa 200 and Gilera Runner 50
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:51 am quote
Hi all,

as you can see in my post here http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic149048 I finally managed to get nice Vespa Cosa 200.

Now trying to get to know it slowly, thinking what Kokkina Fegaria may have on board with him to be able to dismantle complete scooter on the road () and so on.

Biggest issue currently I have is how to find which model I have to be able to order proper spare and tuning (or cosmetic parts). Year is 1991, but VIN starts with VSR1T and that's how both Cosa 1 and Cosa 2 starts on SIP Scootershop for example. There was trouble with that already during preparation of scooter for me as you can see some mentioned in my link so eg. there is an exhaust from SIP, but it is welded now as it was no fit, ignition key box was sent wrong and so on.

I can provide more details if needed including pictures slowly
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:52 pm quote
If you have a cast iron cylinder with a 'normal' clamp on muffler and you have TWO flexible cables going to your shift box, then you have a Cosa I . If you have an aluminum cylinder with a 2 bolt flange on the muffler and you have a single rigid wire shifter cable, that would be a Cosa II. I think the II also has a low 2T oil level indicator on the instrument cluster. Let's see the pics .
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:00 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
. Let's see the pics .
From his other post.

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Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:21 pm quote
I did see that, nice bike. And I bet a dollar it's a Cosa II.
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Vespa Cosa 200 and Gilera Runner 50
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:28 pm quote
Some more pics
From other side

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Vespa Cosa 200 and Gilera Runner 50
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:29 pm quote
another pic
from back

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Vespa Cosa 200 and Gilera Runner 50
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:30 pm quote
last one from front
qute

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Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:34 pm quote
Cables on shifter I will need to check. But regarding oil there is no light on instrument panel. There is just "eye" control next to the tank showing green when it is full or nearly full and red when empty. Control light is only for fuel reserve and I did take over 7 liters of petrol, but seems about right

However now I am looking for right lever for front brake. There was not original and cable is not keeping properly inside and it just went off and it is no point to put it back again with some silicon as service did. So best tip where to find quickly brake lever?

And exhaust......it's from SIP, they welded it in place, but couple of milimeters off so right part of center stand where rubber "brake" is is blocked by it and can't go fully up without making scratches on exhaust. So probably easiest will be to take about 2mm out of that part on center stand. In any case thinking about side stand too.
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:20 pm quote
Seat is series 1; rear light panel is series 2, which is why you have that strange step between the 2. Since the oil level sight glass under the seat is a series 1 component, as are the floormats and handlebar grips, I'd guess the scooter is in fact a series 1.
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Vespa Cosa 200 and Gilera Runner 50
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:00 am quote
OK, so based on VIN I am supposed to have "1988-1990 Vespa Cosa 200 CLX Elestart"

Problem with carburetor is now probably fixed. Something was wrong with the manual tap. Now checking if it will be leaking or not, so far seems ok.

However one question.......as it was staying for so long and fuel went via engine to the pipe is it "safe" to just start it? Scared or residues in engine and pipe ending in too rich mixture and possible "explositions" which may not be good for gasket or just too scary of me?

Unoriginal brake lever is broken, it is plastic so no wonder so ordering steel one original from SIP.

As well kick starter lever is worn out inside and screw is damaged anyway. Some as*hole must be jumping on it like crazy before and material is crap probably too. Thankfully part on engine seems ok, I mean teeth.

Master brake cylinder...cleaned its surroundings and waiting if there will be some leakage or not, but I suppose it is not possible to buy just some gaskets for overhaul and only way to buy complete master brake cylinder, right?

BTW anyone with the link to service manual? I have some, but either Vespa is "special" or there are others, because for example there are no parts about how to dismantle handlebars and other body related things. And yes, I even bough italian one in PDF from Italy from the guy who has web page about Vespas.
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:21 am quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_Cosa

The series is broadly divided into two generations. The first generation was built from 1988 to 1991, while the second generation (sometimes referred to as the Cosa FL) was in production from 1992 onwards. Both version are fundamentally the same, with some minor differences. Firstly, the clutch was modified so that it would be easier to pull in and release. Secondly, minor design alterations were made: the tail light was slightly different and moved to a new position, the seat lock was installed on the side of the saddle, and the saddle was widened for extra comfort.
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:23 am quote
Well the problem is that VIN says it is MKI, guys here says based on light it is MKII and saddle has lock on side. Clutch goes quite easily, but do not know others so can't really tell difference.

It is originally from NL and first time of registration is 3/1991 so it can either of them or some intermediate type too
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:23 pm quote
You have many parts off an mk1, and just the rear light and plate holder from a series 2. Unless some maniac decided to put a lot of parts (oil tank, entire floor mat system, instrument panel, seat, grips, rotor cover, etc) from an mk1 on an mk2, it's an mk1.
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:42 am quote
So after fixing my Cosa I put quick 70km on it and all is fine. Was quite fitness to get it running with 8 months old fuel mixed with 5l of new. But after about 50 kicks it finally started and I was sweating as hell

However I still feel quite big for it so not sure if it will stay keeper
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