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Molto Verboso
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:28 pm quote
... but you anglo-saxons are always so caustic ..? Or did i come across an interpersonal therapy forum?
(This is the time that Jimc ban me)

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Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:29 pm quote
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I'd like to quote Dennis Leary at this point.

Meat might taste like Murder but Murder tastes pretty Goddam good doesn't it.

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Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:32 pm quote
Who is Dennis Leary and who is Murder ... if the joke is not addressed to me you are not obliged to explain it.
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 pm quote
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Caustic ?

I think that's very unfair.

I talk about the facts and from my own experience and I chose not to default to the emotive.

It saves a whole bunch of time.

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Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:54 pm quote
... not in a bad sense, maybe the term is excessive ... at the moment i don't find the equivalent but softer word...
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:24 am quote
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Find the word and then come back to me

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:32 am quote
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Dennis Leary was one of the best stand up comics who had a pragmatic view on life.

Murder is the act of killing something or someone.

It's mostly premeditated.

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:45 am quote
Bill ... if you want today go to a real Italian restaurant and eat a nice plate of tortellini with ham (Rana) with ragù and as a main course a roast veal with potatoes, all washed down with a liter of authentic Lambrusco reggiano; you will see the world in a better light. I hope i inspired you.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:54 am quote
waspmike wrote:
What about Korea?

The country has Seoul, but their cars do not!
We used to get Daelim bikes and scooters in the UK but haven't seen any advertised recently.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:03 am quote
This has been an interesting read. Pretty much called out the direction this would go in the second reply to the OP. If we started a NSR related food thread about what’s better, Chinese or Italian cuisine it would probably go in the same direction.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:26 am quote
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This has been an interesting read. Pretty much called out the direction this would go in the second reply to the OP. If we started a NSR related food thread about what’s better, Chinese or Italian cuisine it would probably go in the same direction.
You have understood ...
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:36 am quote
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Yes but did you think it was a fair conversation ?

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:11 am quote
... mah ... there are worse ones, i just wanted to be more polite ...
You never told me what job you did or did...
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:27 am quote
Sorry
Sorry to revert to the thread topic. But I was going to say that I HOPE Chinese motorcycles are good. Evidently the Lightning Strike will be assembled in the US out of China-sourced parts, thus explaining its relatively low price, relative to the ElectroHOG. If it provides the advertised performance, and seems to be of good quality, I'll probably be signing up for one. The Strike, that is, not the ElectroHOG.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:31 am quote
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It's Meh not Mah.

You were polite. Very polite but I think that you worry too much.

I'm opinionated and sarcastic sometimes but rarely am I not civil.

You're doing well so keep it up.

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:09 am quote
He's doing a damn fine job of keeping up with you.

You know I'm actually torn on whether I prefer Chinese or Italian food. Depends on my mood. Sort of like how I decide which bike I am going to use most days.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:14 am quote
Re: Sorry
Jimding wrote:
Sorry to revert to the thread topic.
Preposterous . . at least until natural selection eventually intervenes!
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:30 am quote
Moto.it: Benelli e il traguardo delle 50.000 moto vendute nel mondo.
http://www.moto.it/news/benelli-e-il-traguardo-delle-50-000-moto-vendute-nel-mondo.html

Aug 21, 2019
Benelli and the milestone of the 50,000 motorcycles sold in the world
A record, not only symbolic, that Benelli could already reach at the end of 2019. Just five years ago, Benelli reached five thousand

We have already written about the rapid growth in sales achieved in Italy over the last two years, as well as the singular success of the TRK502 which in July of this year was the most purchased motorcycle in Italy.

The growth trend of the Chinese Benelli, is controlled by Qianjiang Motorcycle, is important and goes hand in hand with the construction of a new-generation motorcycle range that will soon see other innovations of medium-high displacement.

Detected in 2005, Benelli QJ has in fact documented waiting almost ten years to see its production reach 5,000 units.
In 2014 the total Benelli registrations in Italy touched the 500 units and the most sold vehicle from the brand was the Caffenero 150 scooter (147 units). A year later, sales jumped to 905 thanks to the sale of BN302: 393 units sold in Italy.

In 2017, thanks to the arrival of the TRK 502 which totaled 929 sales in its first year, registrations rose to 2,040. To jump to 5,077 the following year: in 2018, 2,233 TRK502s were sold and 1,396 units for the Leoncino 500 model.

Additional data provided by the company MotorcyclesData adds that Benelli sales in the world, again in 2018, amounted to 43,137 units and that in the first half of this year there was an increase of + 8.9%.

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:32 am quote
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Once again the page can't be translated.

Posted for one man to read and hes's the guy whose read it already.

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:35 am quote
Here's a Binelli breaking land speed records. Keep what they are in mind anytime someone mentions their 75 mph Genuine Roughhouse

https://www.motofire.com/2017/08/scooter-breaks-two-land-speed-records-at-bonneville/
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:39 am quote
Re: Only
Bill Dog wrote:
Once again the page can't be translated.

Posted for one man to read and hes's the guy whose read it already.

Bill x
Give me time Bill, I have to first check that I don't write crap (any more than I normally write)
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:40 am quote
Re: Only
Bill Dog wrote:
Once again the page can't be translated.

Posted for one man to read and hes's the guy whose read it already.

Bill x
Translation working fine here, maybe the problem's at your end?
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:47 am quote
... it is not easy to translate from Italian to English, there are so many equivalent words missing and our grammar is more complex; even if you use a translator, if you don't do a check you write ridiculous and meaningless things (well .. sometimes even if well translated)
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:49 am quote
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I pressed translate and it said cannot be translated.

That's it basically.

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:56 am quote
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:16 pm quote
Well
Attila wrote:
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
At least the Chinese are reading your posts.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:28 pm quote
Attila wrote:
... it is not easy to translate from Italian to English, there are so many equivalent words missing and our grammar is more complex; even if you use a translator, if you don't do a check you write ridiculous and meaningless things (well .. sometimes even if well translated)
I recently finished cutting and pasting Spanish translations onto English construction drawings. Not easy as some of the translation were too large for the allocated space for English.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:48 pm quote
Re: Well
Jimding wrote:
Attila wrote:
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
At least the Chinese are reading your posts.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:46 pm quote
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Attila wrote:
... it is not easy to translate from Italian to English, there are so many equivalent words missing and our grammar is more complex; even if you use a translator, if you don't do a check you write ridiculous and meaningless things (well .. sometimes even if well translated)
I recently finished cutting and pasting Spanish translations onto English construction drawings. Not easy as some of the translation were too large for the allocated space for English.
They are both Neo-Latin languages
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:51 pm quote
Re: Well
johnymoore wrote:
Jimding wrote:
Attila wrote:
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
At least the Chinese are reading your posts.
You joke about it but Italy is full of chinese people, and they are not tourists ... there is also a website called: http://www.vendere-ai-cinesi.it/
A few more years and you will be on holiday in China in Italy.
With my generation the last old-fashioned Italians will disappear...
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:20 am quote
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Motovista, Do you ever deal with Yoshimura ?

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Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:58 am quote
Yoshimura is japanese ...
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:52 am quote
One of the hardest things I've done this year is not buy a TNT.

One of the easiest things I've not done this year is buy a TNT.

Bill isn't making it any easier/harder.



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Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:13 am quote
... maybe he is working for the chinese, but which ..?
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:06 am quote
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Fleece, you can buy mine if you want.

I'm only going go out and buy another one.

I have to remind myself that I have another bike in the garage.

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Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:17 am quote
Re: Ask
Bill Dog wrote:
Motovista, Do you ever deal with Yoshimura ?

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No. I think they are still tied up with Parts Unlimited in the US, and we're not a Parts Unlimited dealer. Do they have a pipe you want?
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:21 am quote
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I've been searching for a lighter replacement and they are about the only name I recognise.

Most of the ones advertised are just mufflers not an entire system.

The baffle box is incredibly heavy so I'd like to dump the entire thing.

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Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:15 am quote
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Just scratched the peg for the first time.

So yes they handle well.

This one does anyway.

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Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:56 am quote
Re: Well
Jimding wrote:
Attila wrote:
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
At least the Chinese are reading your posts.
They are probably reading yours too Jim! Huawei already run some and maintain many 3g and 4g networks across the US and Trump didn't know that when he started to isolate them. They already run many of our 3 and 4g networks too as they do across Europe. Funny old world eh!
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:41 am quote
Stromrider wrote:
Jimding wrote:
Attila wrote:
At the moment I'm writing everything with the mobile phone which is a 5-year-old Huawei
At least the Chinese are reading your posts.
They are probably reading yours too Jim! Huawei already run some and maintain many 3g and 4g networks across the US and Trump didn't know that when he started to isolate them. They already run many of our 3 and 4g networks too as they do across Europe. Funny old world eh!
Yup. The American's Think the Chinese are spying on them and the Chinese think Cisco is being used to spy on them. Funny thing is they are probably both right to some extent. Don't trust anything you do on the Internet to be private especially facebag and to some extent google. But we're talking about motorbikes here
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