Are Chinese motorcycles any good?
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:58 am quote
Well, I've just ridden back from my partners house on the TNT and then took the AK out to run some errands.

The difference is that the AK is very serious and it demands a fair amount of application from the rider to ride it well due to its weight and performance.

The Benelli is like a toy to ride and there fore you can just throw it around with abandon which always raises a big smile.

It's quite addictive where as the AK is selective.

I've ridden the TNT for about 150 miles non stop and by the end my ass required a bit of attention but apart from that I was smiling all the way.

It's so much fun.

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Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:10 am quote
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Bill Dog wrote:
I've been searching for a lighter replacement and they are about the only name I recognise.

Most of the ones advertised are just mufflers not an entire system.

The baffle box is incredibly heavy so I'd like to dump the entire thing.

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It looks like MAP pricing in the US is about $511 or so, and that's why you are seeing prices from about there to $530.
If you do decide to get one here and want it shipped there on the cheap (as much as possible), let me know.
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:39 am quote
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Thank you so much for the offer.

I really appreciate it.

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Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:56 pm quote
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I think that Chinese motorcycles a pretty good.

Are we agreed ?

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Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:25 pm quote
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Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:34 pm quote
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... only some brands ...
...with Italian badges...
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Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:22 am quote
Re: Big
Bill Dog wrote:
I think that Chinese motorcycles a pretty good.

Are we agreed ?

Bill x
In my experience there is a big difference between a Chinese motorcycle and their scooters. I had a 50cc bike with a Honda Cub clone engine and it was a joy. It ran close to 50 mph on a level road and gave me zero problems. It took ten minutes to do a valve adjustment and gave me about 135 mpg. I sold it at 4500 miles when I culled the herd of bikes in my garage.

I get really tempted when I get around a Cleveland Cyclewerks Ace or see a CSC San Gabriel 250 with the CG-250 engines. I would love to get one of either and hit the road. I'm going to make a trip to a dealer soon and look at a Benelli 300. I'm sure my wallet will be shaking in my pocket.
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Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:32 am quote
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Attila wrote:
... only some brands ...
...with Italian badges...
Touche'.
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Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:36 am quote
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The 300 has really good reviews.

I'd have one.

There I said it.

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Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:25 am quote
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One of the downs sides of buying a Chinese motorcycle is that it will be worth a lot less than a Japanese or European after a couple of years so be ready for that.

You're probably paying less at the point of purchase so you can't have it both ways.

I'll probably keep this one for a year or so then buy another one.

Yay.

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Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:53 am quote
I really don't buy something thinking about resale value. For one it limits your sphere of purchasing. I would love to see how a Benelli is as a day to day, all around bike but the safe thing would be buying a Honda or Kawasaki for a little more money knowing the resale would be better. I would miss out on buying something out of the ordinary though.

Two....I just don't want to be a stereotype. If I follow the crowd I would just be part of the herd. I did a half dozen 300 mile trips on my CF Moto that would have been Wayyy easier on either my 750 Kawasaki or even my 250 Nighthawk. Instead I enjoyed every moment on the China scoot. I even did the Skyride on the CF Moto and had people asking about it all day. People are only faintly aware of Chinese motorcycles, much less scooters.

Enjoy Bean Alley. You're getting the same enjoyment people got 60 years ago on Honda 90s.
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Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:59 am quote
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That's probably why I like it so much. It's not a Grom

I think that there are only a couple of things I'm going to change.

The exhaust and the finish on the wheels.

Done.

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Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:22 pm quote
I bought a generic gy6 chinese scooter (a Rocketa) a while back and was impressed with the performance. After a while I tried to hop it up, but I just made it louder and slower. So I gave it to the kids and they finished it off. Then I saw a Rocketa 250 for a giveaway price and thought I'd give that a go. Owww, bad idea. It was styled kind of like a Ninja 250 but the fatal flaw was engine vibration. I've never seen anything shake like that. I thought the balancer must be out of phase but when I looked there was no balancer in the cavity. I traded it and ($3k) for a Moto Guzzi 1100cc Jackel. Now that was a good trade.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:15 pm quote
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Exhaust has been ordered.

Stainless Steel.

It eliminates the bulk underneath the engine.

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Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:19 am quote
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I traded it and ($3k) for a Moto Guzzi 1100cc Jackel. Now that was a good trade.
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:05 pm quote
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I think that you raise an interesting point.

The smiles per mile per return on the Benelli are very high.

The reaction from other people is priceless also so not only are you laughing at yourself you bring joy to others so do I really care where it comes from ?

Not really.

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Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:02 am quote
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The Taiwanese scooter blew it's fork leg oil seal today.

Yay. Go China.

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Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:57 am quote
This thread just came to my mind:

My friend just bought an almost 20 years old 650GS BMW, with the Austrian Rotax engine.
The bike has a full service history, no failures during the years.

And the connection to China... well, the license for this single cylinder engine was later sold to Loncin... and the start apparently was not smooth (if you'll remember stories about the first years engines...).... but fast forward to today, and guess where the smaller 2 cylinder engines for BMW are made And if you've ridden a F750/850GS, they are quite impressive engines, with good reputation.
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