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Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:14 am quote
Does the MP3 have a linked braking system that operates the front and rear wheels from a single lever?
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Gilera Fuoco
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:55 am quote
Some models do, some don't.

I believe that all models that have ABS, also have linked brakes.
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:11 am quote
The LT models have a foot brake as a legal loophole to comply with being a trike under EU law. It also means the front wheels are 46 cm apart.
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:44 am quote
shawnm wrote:
Does the MP3 have a linked braking system that operates the front and rear wheels from a single lever?
What year and model are you interested in?
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Gilera Fuoco
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:48 am quote
Brasseye wrote:
The LT models have a foot brake as a legal loophole to comply with being a trike under EU law. It also means the front wheels are 46 cm apart.
My 2007 Fuoco was registered from new as a Trike, but all the dealer did was fit wheel spacers on the front and fill-in the paperwork - it doesn't have a foot brake.
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:29 am quote
do you already have a M/C license? If so, don't see why that wouldn't work outside of not conforming correctly to involve having the foot brake.
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Gilera Fuoco
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:04 am quote
new200guy wrote:
do you already have a M/C license? If so, don't see why that wouldn't work outside of not conforming correctly to involve having the foot brake.
No - that's why I have the Fuoco.
At the time it was registered, 460mm wheel spacing and a separate 'Handbrake' was a requirement, but a foot brake was not.
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:25 am quote
there are lost of mp3's and Fuoco with out a footbrake and with a TUF or MOT as L5e but that changed after 2009 in Europe

Mine did have a austrian TUF as L5e Trike even without spacers
just a stock new Fuoco imported directly from italy in 2008 by the first owner

The rules wheren't clear back then they wheren't well introduced and the inspector didn't know how to class it
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Gilera Fuoco
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:12 pm quote
Still, I'm grateful for the loophole that allows me to ride it on a car license - otherwise I would be limited to 125cc and two wheels!
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:24 am quote
Taught2BeCautious wrote:
Still, I'm grateful for the loophole that allows me to ride it on a car license - otherwise I would be limited to 125cc and two wheels!
Me too getting a bike licence or car for that matter in England is a right drama and very expensive.
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Gilera Fuoco
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Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:46 am quote
Brasseye wrote:
The LT models have a foot brake as a legal loophole to comply with being a trike under EU law. It also means the front wheels are 46 cm apart.
The UK Laws regarding Trikes seem to change with the weather, as does the interpretation of them by different government agencies!

You can buy an aftermarket foot brake kit that only operates the rear brake, if you are converting a model that needs it - and google will help you find a small local engineering company that can make the spacers for about 20.

In the UK, the 'Trike' is the only class of vehicle that you can't ride as a learner or take a test on, unless you are registered as a 'Disabled' person - so if you are 'Able-bodied' and want to ride one, you have to pass a test on a completely different vehicle first.

So a motorcycle licence is always good for a Trike, as long as the engine capacity and power output are the same as the class that your motorcycle licence entitles you to.

A car licence is good for a Trike too - but only if you passed your car test before 19th January 2013 and were wearing brown shoes at the time.

(Sorry, I made up the bit about the brown shoes - but it makes as much sense).
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