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MP3
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:22 am quote
I am using this position to jack up the front wheels, seems to work ok, did not notice any movement in the frame parts and the jack lifts the front easily without much force. (MP3 500 HPE 2019)

Is there any reason I should not use this part of the frame?

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:21 pm quote
If you lock your tilt-lock with the scooter at an angle, then put it up on the centerstand, you won't need a jack.
This works if you are removing one wheel at a time.
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2009 MP3 400
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:50 pm quote
Sounds scary but I'll have to try that.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:23 pm quote
Okay, I tried it. Yes, it was scary.You don't have to tilt it much to lift one wheel. Pull it up straight, then rock it back on the centerstand.

More scary getting it back off the stand. It drops down way off balance and you have to be prepared to catch it. I did the left wheel so it leaned toward me. Would be even worse if you were lifting the right side and it pulled away from you when it comes down.

Not super stable propped up that way but it might be a good field expedient method if you're stuck on the side of the road somewhere. In the garage I'll stick with the low stress jacking method.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:30 pm quote
To get it down, deactivate tilt lock while on the center stand. Jerks a bit but safe.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:37 pm quote
The reason I want to use a jack is to keep all the tyres off the ground during winter/long term storage.
I have tried the tilt method and that works ok for one wheel.
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:30 am quote
Sorry we went off on a tangent.

If that bar you've placed the jack under seems sturdy, I would think it would be fine. My older model doesn't have that
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Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:42 am quote
BJN wrote:
The reason I want to use a jack is to keep all the tyres off the ground during winter/long term storage.
I have tried the tilt method and that works ok for one wheel.
no real need to keep the tires off the ground, to help them from contact get some thick cardboard and slide under the tires or old piece of carpet. either works in keeping the rubber from leaching into concrete or tile and premature drying them out.
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MP3
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:32 am quote
Dont want to create flat spots, the scooter will be stored 4 maybe 5 months.

I see on older models there is a plastic undercover fastened to these frame parts, on mine the undercover is not installed.
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:28 am quote
BJN wrote:
Dont want to create flat spots, the scooter will be stored 4 maybe 5 months.

I see on older models there is a plastic undercover fastened to these frame parts, on mine the undercover is not installed.
I store my scooters every winter for several months, never on stands.
Also never had flat spots.
Just air up your tires (once) when it's cold out, and you should be fine.
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2016 MP3 500cc Sport ABS
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:16 am quote
This thing is pretty useful to lift the scooter.
I do not have this part on my 2016 500 sport model and don't want to apply pressure on the gas tank.

OUPSY no, I might have it on my MP3 but I never thought that by lifting from here it will lift the front.

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2013 MP3 300ie
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:12 am quote
There's a video posted somewhere in a long forgotten corner of this forum (if I'm not mistaken) which shows the factory assembly line for the MP3.

At one point it clearly shows a row of MP3s all fitted to some sort of pole from the factory floor, lifted up in the air, connected at the two brackets shown in your picture. (which on the older 500s also hold the small undercover protecting the swingarm bearings from mud and stuff - also a useful add-on for 250s and 300s)

I figure that these two brackets should be able to support the weight of the scooter just fine then.. (used them a few times already, with no ill effect, by the way)
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:22 pm quote
looked for the video on YouTube found this:
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:05 pm quote
This links to the flash version of the youtube video, which doesn't work for modern platforms.

Can you post a direct link to this video, or the exact title so we can find it ourselves?
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:37 am quote
Thanks, that's the one. Watch from 3 min 45 sec.

These brackets _will_ support the full weight of the scooter - it's exactly what they're made for
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