Am I addicted? New project, but what is it?
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Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:12 am quote
We know that you don't want to go crazy with horsepower from your 200cc thread, so you'll be very happy with the Magny Cours. Pinasco 177 kits provide a very useful boost in power and in the delivery.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:12 am quote
swa45 wrote:
We know that you don't want to go crazy with horsepower from your 200cc thread, so you'll be very happy with the Magny Cours. Pinasco 177 kits provide a very useful boost in power and in the delivery.
Yes, I think itíll have more then enough power
Itís a 190cc kit, with 60mm crank and the 1.5mm spacer btw
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:38 am quote
Yep, same cylinder as the 177 but with the base packer to take up the difference in stroke. A good friend runs one in a 125 t.s. and it's a lovely motor. He uses a PX200 gearbox by the way, with 24/24 carb and SIP XL exhaust.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:07 am quote
swa45 wrote:
Yep, same cylinder as the 177 but with the base packer to take up the difference in stroke. A good friend runs one in a 125 t.s. and it's a lovely motor. He uses a PX200 gearbox by the way, with 24/24 carb and SIP XL exhaust.
Gonna put BGM Faster Flow 24/24 E on it, together with standard Sprint V gearbox, BGM superstrong clutch 23/67 and a BGM Big Box.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:28 pm quote
Any people here who placed BGM engine mounts?
They donít touch in the middle.. is this normal? Is it ok like this?

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Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:34 pm quote
Shouldn't hurt a thing if you can still get between the frame mounts, your motor is going nowhere and if they snug up by themselves that's cool, but if they don't, who cares? my 2Ę
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Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 am quote
None of my BGM meet in the middle - the bonus is you have a lever point should you ever want to remove them.

Whilst they don't meet, they do fit in the frame. Measure your frame gap and see how close that is to the total distance between the ends of the swingarm bushes...
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:48 am quote
DD_VES wrote:
The dismantling of the front end was trickier than I thought it would be.
Spent a lot of thime getting the lower bearing and mudguard off...

I am unable to figure out how to remove the last bolt, the one the suspension pivots on.. It appears to be covered by the outer ring on the hub. An idea someone?
Anyone an idea on this one?
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:47 am quote
refresh
Throw up a fresh pic of the problem area and the hive mind can have a fresh think on this.
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:00 am quote
Think I figured it out. I suppose Iíll need to remove the dustcap and put it back on later...

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Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:59 am quote
DD_VES wrote:
Think I figured it out. I suppose Iíll need to remove the dustcap and put it back on later...
you are correct, that is the way to do it
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Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:03 pm quote
Guys (and girls), any tips on jetting?

Pinasco 190cc Magny Cours
BGM PRO Faster Flow SI24/24E carb
BGM PRO Big Box Touring exhaust

Have been reading a lot, but don't seem to be able to get my mind around jetting...


Thanks!
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:51 am quote
Itís gonna be a long winter.. just took my frame to the workshop, will not be getting it back before feb...
Molto Verboso
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:31 am quote
Will you port the cases (transfer and inlet ports)? If you do, then you will probably be in the 125-132 main jet range with a stock PX200 filter (the new ones have holes pre-drilled). I would guess at 128 but buy the whole range. Otherwise, the BGM carb should be jetted pretty well.
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:05 am quote
swa45 wrote:
Will you port the cases (transfer and inlet ports)? If you do, then you will probably be in the 125-132 main jet range with a stock PX200 filter (the new ones have holes pre-drilled). I would guess at 128 but buy the whole range. Otherwise, the BGM carb should be jetted pretty well.
No, I will not be porting the cases..
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:12 am quote
Case closed!!

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Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:28 pm quote
Looking back at the last page, thatís a ton of port you could be matching, are you sure you want to leave all that on the table??
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:24 pm quote
Without any porting and with a stock or mildly cut crank (even longer stroke), you won't really benefit from the 24/24 carb, so you may not need anything bigger than stock P200, which is 116 or 118. The inlet is very small on those old motors. Maybe start at 120, as you have a BigBox, then see how it feels.
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:26 pm quote
DD_VES wrote:
Or this green!
That green is perfect, Iím looking at a black Px150 that needs some paint. I was thinking this green on the wheel covers and a few other parts so I donít have to try and match colors.
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