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Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:42 pm quote
Turns over easy enuff, but w/ good compression & starts quick. The yellow is probably gotta go, so no more sunny side up.

This '68(? yet to be verified, but title says) Super 125, Script badge front & back, CEV real tuna can rear lite, Fresh LML 4 speed we still dunno how geared for 8", seller didn't know. But crappy yellow over original white, some wrinkles & bumps on looks solid body, no bondo though. Quality aftermarket seat. Motor runs great & very good power, but flattie on the front said I was done for now. 5xxx original miles.



It's only unloaded & I'm grabbing lunch before going down to INSPECT this pig in a poke good, I hope steal of a deal.




If you have any interest & can somehow remove it from my home or other close by place, want a deal, And someone in front takes a pass - It is yours at cost. First, of course me then qascoot then you, 1099$ FOB your rig w/ clean WA state papers and owned by an honest(bribes were tried after we 'shook hands' on the phone) 67 yo Marine Corps vet w/ hat to prove it. We had a great little visit after showing up in an beat up open HumVee. Thanks Randy, see ya again buddy!

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Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:44 pm quote
Yellow lemon?
Wheels match too well & he was vague on the PRO conversion installation and we were looking at the scooter like this in a no parking zone in mid downtown, Guy lived in a large apt block, small comfy room w/ his BFF black cat. Anyway, nice guy & helped load as cops lurked nearby w/ free tickets to give.




The paint is spray & some matching touch up mess, should come off easy, but the white under was painted for a reason. Who knows how bad. Or good!

A lot of nice details I liked, the motor has been used enough & regged in 2016, so somebody's barnfind w/ dead motor & made to run w/ PnP motor and a rattle can + brush maybe. A summer or two of swearing and done. My guy got it from SOME guy in '16 and didn't do motor and may have done paint. He did have a lot of woodworking tools in his small apartment and hands that still work often, Knew how to balance his corner when we loaded in mid downtown looking up at skyscrapers, it was so strange!

Pics of HumVee loading & unloading soon.

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Nice paint from 50 feet and nice ebeth color too!

Molto Verboso
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:12 pm quote
10" conversion, updated engine. Nice! Must've done something with the wiring harness too then eh? Have you aired up the tires and took it around your neighborhood yet?

And maybe that yellow paint was just put there to protect the original white...
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:50 pm quote
Re: Yellow lemon?
V oodoo wrote:
and nice ebeth color too!
Tidak. Too good for the Portuges
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Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:50 pm quote
I hope the Portuges like white. This lemon turns out to be more egglike & the white is better than the yolk joke of a sloppy rattle can yellow spray job. Fortunately it comes off easily w/ acetone, which the original white is not affected by.

So many nice little discoveries on a solid lo mile bike.
I'm still happy it followed me home and I'm getting happier.

► very little rust

► the original white looks OKish so far

► Floor tim ALL there & in good shape

► The LML is really healthy, like new w/ just enough miles to relax

► Original wiring is all good & spliced in nicely, everything but horn works

► The tuna can is original CEV in in excellent condition

► All locks present & in good condition, just need to be keyed

► so original and so 'all there' under that LML & all the yellow

Here's where we sing "you'll wonder where the yellow went... la la la "
Just five minutes love rubs w/ acetone & the white original is unaffected.


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5 more minutes
nice floor trim, same on other side

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filthy, but so "clean"

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probably kinda rare?

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messy, but nearly like new

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nutz, it's gonna need sanding

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Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:24 pm quote
Hey, that was in my hood. Drop me a line next time.

This was me on Saturday.

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Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:11 pm quote
gmontag wrote:
Hey, that was in my hood. Drop me a line next time.

This was me on Saturday.
No WAY, right smack downtown? We parked where the truck is on Sunday mid morning & you don't come help us load? After all I done for you? sheesh
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:07 pm quote
Wow looks like a great scoot!
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:28 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
gmontag wrote:
Hey, that was in my hood. Drop me a line next time.

This was me on Saturday.
No WAY, right smack downtown? We parked where the truck is on Sunday mid morning & you don't come help us load? After all I done for you? sheesh
I am very familiar with that corner.

"Smack" downtown indeed.
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:36 pm quote
Downtown business, HumVee style

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low income living downtown
right next to I5 freeway traffic

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borrowed fancy camelhair coat for crisp fall ride in this big fancy "convertible"

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home safe and ready to unload

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Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:02 pm quote
Hey, hey, V oodoo. Looks like a Sunny day in the neighborhood all right! NICE pics of the whole downtown exchange. Who’s that sartorial supernova in the camel hair coat?

Very nice looking scoot you got there. And yes, I’m a wee bit partial to that Super Duper styling. Vintage script that just states the obvious. “I’m Super. What else doyawanna know?”

Too bad the yellow paint is so sad up close. Cause it’s real pretty from a distance. Happy, in fact.

But, separate the yolk from the white. Whip it up fast. Add a little sugar. And you get magical Merengue. Oooh, nice!

Show us that Merengue when you get there. I think a bit of whipping to still be done.....

Congrats on your new toy!
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:42 pm quote
John the Baptist drives a Humvee?
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:57 pm quote
really....

Sheeesh, guys!
Crisp fall morning whizzing down the freeway sniffen Vespa loot, all chill & there's such a dapper old coat tossed in back?

You'd pass? Sure ya would...
And I was riding 'pillion' anyway.
All chauffeured style, proper in me gentleman's garb.
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Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:03 am quote
Old original paint and primer is solid as a rock. I've even had trouble using strong, toxic paint stripper to get it off. Modern paints pale in comparison.
Molto Verboso
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:23 am quote
You going to rub it down to a total white? Nice find for sure.
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:33 am quote
Well that seems like a lot of WERK!

I was wondering if two tone would be easier, only half the halfassed effort. What you think?

Anyway, maybe SOMEONE else's gonna need about a million acetone luvrubs here, it looks like? Maybe NOT me.....

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Molto Verboso
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:36 pm quote
Twotone would be good , but all white would be better , get rubbing
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:03 pm quote
First - that camel hair coat is all you.
You should make that happen.

Second - There is no second.
It jumps out under acceleration.

Bike looks great.
Let that coat cover some of the paint.
Drive and enjoy.
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:06 am quote
conflict
Between ScooterHelp which says I have a 1966 Super 150

and https://www.vespa.name/vespa-model/vespa-125-super
whis says with *025087* or maybe *025037*it could be a 1968, or possibly a 1969, one of the last.

Opinions? It doesn't seem to have ever been a 150, but no motor to verify.

But yep, kept that coat and winter is coming, but I shall keep warm in style.

And second works just fine!

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Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:07 am quote
Would appear 69 would have been a rare find.
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:52 am quote
nice 69 super Brother T, from yellow sunshine turn to be a nice glory white
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:50 pm quote
Oooooh, look at all the youngsters trying to make me WERK! And from all over the damn planet, too!

But just try to come & MAKE me .

And just for that, NOW I'm only gonna get it running sweet(99% there) and shifting, clutching, braking and lighting sorta good and go ride w/ some of ol' Vader in front. Gonna be UNrubbed SCRAMBLED egg terror unleashed soon, because nice old Sito(tnx Doc!) going on next and dumping that damn cat in the trash!

I dumped the whitewall & crusty rim on front of my Super cuz I got the VaderClean® old rims & new tires off of HIS Super when he went up on tens.
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Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:06 am quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Old original paint and primer is solid as a rock. I've even had trouble using strong, toxic paint stripper to get it off. Modern paints pale in comparison.
I found that this CRC gasket remover works wonders. It softens up the yellow spray paint but doesn't do anything to the tough original white but shine it up nice. Still a lot of scoot to get the yellow off of. Just takes enough time.

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the yellow paint sort of curdles and then wipes off fairly clean as the rag shows

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you can see the gasket remover sort of stays in place & doesn't just run down and the yellow bubble up loose

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Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:11 am quote
WOW killer 125 Super badge don't think ever seen one. Amazing how good OG paint is. Looking amazing.
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Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:43 pm quote
Nice Work! Them whites are going to be pearly
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Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:31 pm quote
Eggcellant work, V oodoo. Anyone craving toast?

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Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:40 pm quote
Kimono32 wrote:
Eggcellant work, V oodoo. Anyone craving toast?
heh heh, and some hash browns to soak up all that yolky goodness!
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Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm quote
qascooter wrote:
Kimono32 wrote:
Eggcellant work, V oodoo. Anyone craving toast?
heh heh, and some hash browns to soak up all that yolky goodness!
Oh, totally, qa! Extra crispy, please. Mind if I put up a lil pic so we can continue this delicious breakfast thread? Sorry, V oodoo. Hard to resist.

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Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:54 pm quote
Eggs, hash browns (extra crispy), and steak!

Fun story - when I went across the country on my bicycle (a loooonnnnggg time ago) I would stop at little mom and pop diners and get a double order of steak, eggs, and hash browns. Most times they'd bring me a plate of hash browns, and a plate with the eggs and steak, then a plate of toast. I must've looked like a starving man. Ha! Now I'm hungry!

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Two of these please!

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Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:30 am quote
No Im seriously Hungry for some sunny side up steak and eggs.
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:43 pm quote
OUCH!

Perfect Saturday dinner!

Thanks a LOT, guys.

We're going out instead, I get to pay too.

No 24hr breakfast menu this kinda place.



I shoulda insisted on some old diner and just said

"Two of these, please & coffee in a pot?
You say English muffins & blackberry jam?
Why, yes please, OF COURSE!"
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:06 pm quote
That does look delicious right about now. And yes, English muffins with blackberry jam sounds perfect. I also like to have a short stack to soak up all the eggy goodness. Dang, might have to make a trip out to the local greasy spoon soon.... See what you started K!
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:26 am quote
Dept. of loverubs
Mealtime's over, kids, back to work. This time mostly acetone loverubs because I have a gallon and I want to save the spray on stuff for touch up and hard to get places. The acetone with a 2" paintbrush w/ a lot of scrubbing action and a wiping rag to follow , then a cleaner rag soaked in a little acetone to wipe it down works well on this old yellow paint.

So two silver linings here so far besides that I can even get this stuff off fairly well w/ some elbow grease. First the painter forgot to sand the surface before painting but seems to have cleaned it very well and second, the yellow probably protected the OG paint for some years, where it's not worn in a few spots or flaked back in small places it seems to be nice and deep and no serious damage areas either.

I expect to spot fog some matched paint on the biggest owies and a artist brush on the little patches on the floor. No need to make like it's brand new, I'm not either and we'll match nicely this way. Then I'll use an orbital polisher w/ mild buffing and cleaning creme then some old fashioned carnauba wax to finish. That's the plan anyway.

Oh, and also gonna convert the front to 10" for now, maybe for keeps. Be ready to roll serious before you know it w/ massive 5 port reed valved power on tap! Oh Ginchy, where are you ol' buddy. Mr. 10" Super?

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that's curdling nicely

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getting the brake pedal off was fun
had to pull the rubber strip out to get the pedal low enough, but not the trim strip, phew

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a little wear but mostly good sound old paint
hey there, Eeyore lil buddy

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bottom's pretty good, even the paint
should clean up well enough for just clearcoat and done

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motor cavity is impressively unfilthy

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Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:34 am quote
5 pic limit so here's the top of the floor & inside the mudguard

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Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:43 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
...going on next and dumping that damn cat in the trash!
Now you're talking! I hate cats and always will. They are nothing more than witches in small animal bodies. I will be glad to engage in any debate with a cat lover on why they should never be pets. 🥊 Sorry to stray off topic; just say'in.
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:22 am quote
Shouldn't this thing be in the Bodge Spotting thread? After all, you paid $6,000 for it, right?😃
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am quote
That’s coming of nice! Remembers me of the days and days of aceton and paint stripper on mine.. i had 3 layers of paint over the original, of which the black one was a real sucker...
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:22 am quote
The paint is coming off nicely.
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:53 pm quote
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Oh, and also gonna convert the front to 10" for now, maybe for keeps. Be ready to roll serious before you know it w/ massive 5 port reed valved power on tap! Oh Ginchy, where are you ol' buddy. Mr. 10" Super?
Noooooooo, Terry stop .... jeez, the paint looks great but what's this obsession with 10's? It ain't a Sprint, it ain't a Rally. It's a Super. Leave it on 8's like it's supposed to have. And what am I, chopped liver?
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:09 pm quote
Re: Dept. of loverubs
V oodoo wrote:
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Oh, and also gonna convert the front to 10" for now, maybe for keeps. Be ready to roll serious before you know it w/ massive 5 port reed valved power on tap! Oh Ginchy, where are you ol' buddy. Mr. 10" Super?
Well shucks, I tried to draft my post to sneak the idea past you kinda. My thoughts are to get this POS on the road soon and enjoy all that reliable and economical LML power on offer. I have an old 2 port 8" motor that I can sort out over winter but it's nowhere near ready to go now. After I try this baby on tens and fly down the road I'll have to see how I feel. I'd luv me a sweet 3 port motor geared for 8" and may consider adding a third port to the two port motor I have.

Guess I gotta PM Ginch to find out details for the ten inch conversion up front.
I have the parts I think, but never done it before and

I want it to be easily reversible to go all eights if/when I like,

to go back to properly stock for Mister unchopped liver Mike.
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