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Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:10 pm quote
I don't know why everone thinks the Allstate is so rare...having a cutdown Smallframe that's aready to accept a largeframe engine, now that's rare! You would probably see 10 GS160's before you ever see a Smallframe with a very large lump of a motor hanging out the right side of the scoot!
Ossessionato
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
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Location: Tega Cay, SC
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:33 am quote
No, Allstates are not rare at all. But I guess the handlebar, widebody and GS kinda was, like I said, I have seen any of these in person and so many in one place at the same time.
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Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:16 am quote
Tierney wrote:
I just went thru the link - $3700 for a repainted Rally, $4100 for a mostly original Rally? Crazy. The one I got is a bit rough, but in person, some of the older models did not look that good at all. And that was the ones that could roll, sort of. There was a dozen or so in the barn that were really jammed up. The only one that I think was worth the price was the GS, other than a missing seat, it looked all there and the body was in fairly good shape, even considering the age of it. By the way, I started feeling bad about this, so I called the owner. He said the sale was cancelled the morning of pick up, so he just put it back in side to be sold later. He also said he is NOT going thru an auction house next time. I told him I could help him sell all the scooters as I know a whole bunch of scooter nuts that would like nothing better than to get them running again.
Ooo, that would be great! I've been looking for a reasonably priced project bike for a while now and they're tough to find. I assumed it was an estate sale or something like that, good to hear the guy is still around.

The auction charged 15% I think on top of the sale price, so that would have actually been $920.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:16 am quote
Tierney wrote:
No, Allstates are not rare at all. But I guess the handlebar, widebody and GS kinda was, like I said, I have seen any of these in person and so many in one place at the same time.
I have a Allstate as well. They are cool scoots. I was trying to make light about your butchered up smallframe. Since it's frowned upon to do something like that, it would make it a very rare scooter.
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Location: Tega Cay, SC
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:52 am quote
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Tierney wrote:
I have a Allstate as well. They are cool scoots. I was trying to make light about your butchered up smallframe. Since it's frowned upon to do something like that, it would make it a very rare scooter.
Hey man, it's all good , I know what you were saying.🤣 i am passing it on to local scooter dude I have known for awhile. But I think you were right all along, in that it would be better to install a large frame motor. Definitely would be easier. And now I know a guy that might be willing to part with one.
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:59 am quote
some pics from the auction pick up area:

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Ossessionato
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:02 pm quote
more

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Even some abandoned ones

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And one of several Cushmans

Veni, Vidi, Posti
a not so normal vbb2 '64, a weirdo vbx '86 and a not so normal pts100 '82
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:03 am quote
wow ur lucky Brother T, all those scooter is so nice i wish i can grab them all
Ossessionato
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:46 am quote
And I wish I could find a way to send you a few. What you do to with your scooters are amazing! You're one of of my heroes on here that keep me going.
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Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:47 pm quote
So I finally got a chance to work on the scoot a little. I started by trying to remove some of the dodgy paint. I thought it would come off easy and reward me with some of the original silver paint intact. Well, kinda. Acetone did not work, nor did Goo-gone, so then I went onto full paint stripper. It's working ok, but not great, and there is more rust under it than I thought there would be. After an hour of that, I decided to check on the engine somewhat. It is not seized, thankfully, but there is not much resistance either. The engine cowl pin was stuck, so decided to pull the tank to free it up from the inside. Holy cow, some critter built a nest and moved a cubic foot of grass in the cavity. Cleaned it out, tapped the back of the pin, took off cover. Kicked it over again. Hmm, the engine is not turning, maybe a wonky clutch. So I then turn the flywheel by hand, hardly any resistance with the plug installed. I guess I got my work cut out for me.

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Ossessionato
I have a few scooters....
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:36 am quote
That's a great story. It seems every scooter I've acquired has a story too.
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:47 pm quote
Killo wrote:
That's a great story. It seems every scooter I've acquired has a story too.
Thanks. It kinda threw me for a loop when one of the guys showed me it was in the auction and was sold. I did not know what to think and was feeling pretty sour about the whole event. But again, when the owner told me he let the bidder back out of the deal they had, things got better. In all honesty, the owner told me he bought it well over 10 years ago and probably did not pay that much for it as it was not running then. So it's a true barn find and I have a lot of work to do on it. I'm hoping I can save enough of the original paint.
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Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:26 am quote
I put this in Voodoo's thread, but it bares repeating. Removing paint is a b*tch, and this paint in particular, is a real b*tch. Nothing was working until I found some older bad remover in a pile of stuff in my garage. I'm still hoping to save the original paint. But I am reminded of something Socal said awhile back in that most people don't paint these scoot just for a color change. Rather it is because the paint has worn out, scraped up too much, etc... Maybe I'll get lucky. But I had a lot of good luck getting this scoot, so the bad has to come around eventually.
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Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:28 am quote
forgot the pics:

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Bad stuff

Molto Verboso
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Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:12 am quote
This project is going to keep you busy , you're going to have forearms like Popeye ( ask Voodoo ).
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