1971 Sprint
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:51 am quote
I needed a winter project and I found this 1971 Sprint, itís in rough shape but it starts. The title says 1971, the engine serial number says it is from a 1974 Sprint Veloce.
No keys, engine cowl pin is missing, a few dings and some surface rust, and a broken center stand.
I plan to check the compression, replace the bearings, seals, clutch, shocks, engine mounts, brakes, tires, center stand, try to replace the locks, and see if I can get the autolube to work again.

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Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:55 am quote
Nice score! Is that a a tuna can light? More Pics!
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:04 pm quote
71 Sprint
Here's a few pictures of the Sprint, the scooter is not a Veloce, but the lump is, I rechecked the motor number and it is from a 74 veloce. The ignition switch is some sort of barrel lock near the fuel tap, (no key) I haven't found one online yet.

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1980 P200E, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
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Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:29 pm quote
Sweet!
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GL, PK, PE200, Rusty Bluebadge
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Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:05 pm quote
Great find! Looks like that Sprint had the infamous silver that peeled offed easy and someone painted it white. If you take the white off beware that you will find some bare metal where the silver peeled off.
Of course that barrel lock ignition was added. Did you check the exhaust bolt to verify it was a Veloce?
You've found a very nice scooter. Congratulations!
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63 Lambretta LI 125 series 3, 71 Sprint Veloce , 2005 Vespa PX150, 1979 P200E
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 833
Location: Tucson, AZ
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:47 am quote
I have a 71 Sprint Veloce, mine was imported. I can see that your scooter had bit and pieces from other scooters but overall it looks good.
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am quote
Motor is out, the wiring looks pretty good, the rubber bits and cables not so good. Iím making a list of parts to order.

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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am quote
Dirty motor

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P200E
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Location: The Town that dreaded Sundown.
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:08 am quote
Looks like a good start 🤙 Whats the plans with the body? Just a clean and buff?
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:40 am quote
The tail on the scooter is damaged and a cowl peg is broken off. Iím going to take it to a body shop and have those 2 things fixed.
Not sure about painting.

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58 VB1T, 81 100 Sport
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Location: Long Beach, CA
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:05 am quote
Nice find CONGRATS! Just brought it home and motor already out making progress. Way to get at it!
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GTS300i - Lambretta S3 '62
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Location: Belgium
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:12 am quote
Looks like at some point (the hole next to the choke) a px-engine with autolube had been added.

http://www.vespalabs.org/wiki/vespa-101/engine/autolube
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GL, PK, PE200, Rusty Bluebadge
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
Posts: 702
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:22 am quote
4AD wrote:
Looks like at some point (the hole next to the choke) a px-engine with autolube had been added.

http://www.vespalabs.org/wiki/vespa-101/engine/autolube
Nope that is stock motor. US largeframe vespas came with autolube as standard equipment since the early seventies. It was an upgrade for other countries.
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:05 am quote
Cowl rust
Today I removed the seat, gas/oil tank, and the battery side cowl from the Sprint.
The sight glass has been removed from the oil tank, and welded up. It looks like I can either find a new gas and oil tank combo or cover the sight glass hole in the frame and just add 2t oil to the gas myself. The gas and oil tanks were separate on my p200 but on the sprint they are welded together.
Seat needs recovered. I have an auto upholsterer nearby but not sure what he'd charge to do it. Haven't found seat cover on the interweb yet.
Battery side cowl is rusted pretty badly on the bottom. The remaining metal is pretty thin. Can I put a layer of fiberglass filler on it? Or do I need a new cowl?
I suppose I could buy a matching pair since the holder peg is broken off the engine side cowl anyway.

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Rusty cowl.

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Seat and pad.

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Welded up oil tank

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Location: seattle/athens
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:45 am quote
You should be able to get a seat cover at Mercato , but out of black now and only has blue & red. YUCK, call Dave and ask when he gets more black in. For your cowl, yes to fiberglass, but no to just filler. Just do like this and use a piece of fiberglass cloth cut to fit on the inside, and I think you'll like the result.





Also, you're gonna pull the headset and fork ANYWAY, right? If so, do it now and maybe try this?:

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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:11 am quote
I was reading the post from DD-VES, about 2 port vs 3 port sprint engines. I was curious about mine so I checked the exhaust bolt hole on the swing arm of my sprint and it didnít go through the swing arm. Uh-oh, so I pulled off head and cylinder and found 3 ports. Good news!
This week I pulled the headset and removed the floor runners, the rust isnít bad at all. Iíve got a lot of cleaning and paint removal to do before I take the frame to body shop.

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Honda elite
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:25 am quote
looking good
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:13 pm quote
I'm in the process of stripping down the Sprint for bead blasting and body work, then paint.
There's quite a bit of rust on the mudguard and glovebox side cowl. The engine side cowl is missing the rear peg.
I've looked at repops for sale on SIP, the cost is reasonable, but shipping might be expensive. Can I have the old ones fixed? Are the repops a better solution?
I may take the 3 pieces into a body shop tomorrow for an estimate.

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Rusted bolt holes in mudguard

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Peg torn out of engine side cowl

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Bottom of glove side cowl rusted

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Vespa
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Location: US
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:29 pm quote
good work. Looks like lot of original grey paint still underneath the white layer. Some originalist are crying out loud. lol.
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GL, PK, PE200, Rusty Bluebadge
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Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:32 pm quote
Looks like a great project!

There's other ways to fix the cowl peg. Some use bolts or a metal rod welded to the cowl. Some don't even weld and use nuts and washers to hold it on. If you need to order one from SIP go through a US dealer like Scooter Mercato for a flat shipping rate.

BTW, Did you do the hammer test on the rusted area. That cowl floor is suspect and the fender may not have enough good metal in that area to hold the bolts. You may need to find good used pieces or a repops which are not that bad if you get them from a respectable supplier and not Ebay. Hope you can save them.

Good luck!
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:18 pm quote
Partial list of items I want from SIP.
Engine gasket set
Bearings
Seals
Rings
Engine mounts
Clutch rebuild kit
Road 2 exhaust
Cruciform
Rubber bits
SIP tubeless rims w/tires
Center stand
Seat cover
Seat cushion
Steering bearings
Carbone shocks
Mud guard
2 cowls
Various screws, nuts, floor mat, etc,
Shipping estimate is $95, not too bad.
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1986 T5,
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 449
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:04 am quote
Iíve got the scooter nearly ready paint and rust removal. Still have some work to do on the head set.
Iím not sure whether to have it dipped or blasted. Iím waiting to hear back for a price from the Ďdipperí.

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1980 P200E, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
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Location: San Diego, CA
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:39 am quote
the people who love dipping will talk about the sand coming out later, and the people who love blasting will talk about the chemicals coming out from the seams later .

Me - I'd probably get it blasted, and not look back, but I have no experience to speak of on this. One thing I can offer - years ago I had a friend with an auto body shop who helped me paint my 63 falcon. we didn't take the car to bare metal, we only sanded it all and used the original paint as the base, with primer on the areas of repair for metal, etc. it came out great. So no need to get every last bit of paint off the bike to have a good finished product, so long as the body work and primer phases get enough attention.
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