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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:37 pm quote
In NYC for the weekend and ran across thiss fleet of police vehicles. Unfortunately the officer watching over them was not very friendly to talk to about them. I would have thought it would be a good PR opportunity

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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:38 pm quote
Another pic

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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:40 pm quote
I'd make a joke about an NYC cop not being friendly but that isn't really a joke anymore. I've talked to a few over the years and they are usually decent guys. But guarding a bunch of scooters may not be the primo job on the force....
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:47 pm quote
Eventual auction parts scooters.
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:48 pm quote
True but one of them is assigned to him so he actually rides one
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:58 pm quote
I think that is great! Well, not great that the officer didn't want to talk about it, but what a smart use of resources.
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm quote
With the cop being an arrogant jerk, I'm surprised he actually let you get close enough to take pics. I would have walked up to him and showed him the pic where it says courtesy, professionalism, & respect. Tell him to learn it or get another profession.
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:31 pm quote
Nothing new here. NYC had a fleet of Sprints way back in '77, more here: NYC Police 1977 Sprint Veloce


Looks like they were issued gas masks too, coz of all the 2T smoke


I got an old Sprint missing the engine cowl. I found a proper cowl on ScootNet rattlecanned red, but when I got the red off I found out it was a cop bike cowl and you just barely make out remnants of the cop graphics on it, so I left it blue out of cop respect and now having me a real "cop bike". You can still see some of the "P" near the taillite.

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Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:36 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
Nothing new here. NYC had a fleet of Sprints way back in '77, more here: NYC Police 1977 Sprint Veloce


Looks like they were issued gas masks too, coz of all the 2T smoke


I got an old Sprint missing the engine cowl. I found a proper cowl on ScootNet rattlecanned red, but when I got the red off I found out it was a cop bike cowl and you just barely make out remnants of the cop graphics on it, so I left it blue out of cop respect and now having me a real "cop bike". You can still see some of the "P" near the taillite.
Been wanting to magically find one of those old NYC cop sprints! That would be awesome!
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:27 am quote
It is not a new idea, in France the T Max and in Italy have other models, many of Piaggio origin but also of other brands.











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Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:41 am quote
Attila wrote:
It is not a new idea, in France the T Max and in Italy have other models, many of Piaggio origin but also of other brands.

Is it just me, or does the officer in the last photo look really awkward?

Well, THB, I probably don't look far different than that at my height.....
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:48 am quote
... yes ... I think you're right, it seems be sitting on a bidet.
Having a saddle without a step can be beneficial to the tallest.
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:32 pm quote
As of a year and a half ago, I did see (and photograph…give me a bit to find the images) a group of NYPD mounted on BVs. And, I do recall cops on Vespas years before, but I don't recall them being quite the smokers swiss1939 conjures up. I think they made sensible and effective rides for New York's Finest.
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:29 pm quote
Scarabeo500ie wrote:
With the cop being an arrogant jerk, I'm surprised he actually let you get close enough to take pics. I would have walked up to him and showed him the pic where it says courtesy, professionalism, & respect. Tell him to learn it or get another profession.
OK the officer didn’t want to talk about the scooters. To call him an arrogant jerk goes too far. We don’t know why. Maybe he had other things on his mind or things to do. Maybe he had a supervisor that doesn’t want him chatting but paying attention to his job. They’re not under any obligation to turn every meeting into a PR opportunity.
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:08 am quote
Italian Carabinieri
Attila,

I always remember the Carabinieri on their army green colored Moto Guzzi Motorcycles. (49 years ago). Today, I think they are riding Red Ducati Multistrada 1200s. Those guys always looked sharp in their uniforms.

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:27 am quote
Re: Italian Carabinieri
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Attila,

I always remember the Carabinieri on their army green colored Moto Guzzi Motorcycles. (49 years ago). Today, I think they are riding Red Ducati Multistrada 1200s. Those guys always looked sharp in their uniforms.

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http://www.carabinieri.it/tourvirtuali/bmw

Times change, now they mainly have BMWs
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:46 pm quote
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Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:24 pm quote
Spotted this Yamaha NYPD scoot outside Scooter Bodega in Brooklyn a couple of months ago.

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Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:42 am quote
Our's are mainly riding BMWs and KTMs, but there are Yamaha scoots too.

There used to be Piaggio X(... can remember the number)s in the past, but now it's Yamaha.

They actually changed the KTM model recently, as they have to do a lot of stop-and-go traffic riding and the first ADV models were too high to be practical for this.

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Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:49 am quote
An interesting fact about the motorcycle polices in Finland:

To be accepted as a motorcycle police, being a good rider is not enough. It's a tough branch of policing, one for example have to able to push his/hers bike 460 meters (~1510 feet) in less than 3 minutes with all the bike and policing gear on. Be my guest to try that with a big BMW.... or with a big Yamaha scoot even!
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:03 am quote
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An interesting fact about the motorcycle polices in Finland:

To be accepted as a motorcycle police, being a good rider is not enough. It's a tough branch of policing, one for example have to able to push his/hers bike 460 meters (~1510 feet) in less than 3 minutes with all the bike and policing gear on. Be my guest to try that with a big BMW.... or with a big Yamaha scoot even!
I think there’s better tests to see if an applicant is fit enough. I was a motor cop and I don’t know any motor cop who ever needed to push their bike 1500 feet!
To me, it sounds like a secret way to keep women out of the unit.
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:06 am quote
Another part of their fleet.

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Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:00 am quote
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RRider wrote:
An interesting fact about the motorcycle polices in Finland:

To be accepted as a motorcycle police, being a good rider is not enough. It's a tough branch of policing, one for example have to able to push his/hers bike 460 meters (~1510 feet) in less than 3 minutes with all the bike and policing gear on. Be my guest to try that with a big BMW.... or with a big Yamaha scoot even!
I think there’s better tests to see if an applicant is fit enough. I was a motor cop and I don’t know any motor cop who ever needed to push their bike 1500 feet!
To me, it sounds like a secret way to keep women out of the unit.
You are not the only one saying this - the first female officer who passed the test graduated 2012 It's been said that the motorcycle polices here are intentionally selected like they would work as paratroopers (the physically and mentally hardest military training that can be obtained in Finland)... and they are a tough bunch, but as they mainly do trafic policing, it's a justified question that do they need to be that tough....
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:10 am quote
Our resort area police officers use Yamaha TW200's. The ones to fear are the parking enforcement patrol (not the police, but worse!) who ride Honda Metropolitan scooters. Quiet, stealth and can cost you a bunch of money if you slip up while parking!
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:58 am quote
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Times change, now they mainly have BMWs
Like this one.

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Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:15 pm quote
How about a Ducati Panigale V4R as a police vehicle !
https://www.zigwheels.com/news-features/news/ducati-panigale-v4-r-added-to-abu-dhabi-police-fleet/36278/
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:46 pm quote
Not bad ... but If I would be a bad guy around there, knowing the Abu Dhabi area is surrounded with loose sand, I could imagine a way or two to escape from Panigales...
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:25 am quote
Dooglas wrote:
Attila wrote:
Times change, now they mainly have BMWs
Like this one.


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Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:12 am quote
BMW's Italian Police
Attila,

The Italian economy must be doing well with their police driving around in
BMWs. There is a tradition in the USA that all Government and Police vehicles
be American made. However, the motorcycle police do drive foreign brand
motorcycles.

Do you know the brand of the police scooters pictured?

Buon Natale friend,

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Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:16 am quote
they probably have scooters for the police in NYC cause the millennial cops don't know how to shift a motorcycle or drive a standard transmission car
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:27 am quote
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they probably have scooters for the police in NYC cause the millennial cops don't know how to shift a motorcycle or drive a standard transmission car
Okay, boomer.
It couldn’t have anything to do with maneuverability, conforming to green spaces, or simplicity in operation while multitasking everything else involved in the job...it’s because they’re millennials, which automatically means they don’t know how to shift.
Odd jab for a scooter forum...?
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:09 am quote
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Point37 wrote:
they probably have scooters for the police in NYC cause the millennial cops don't know how to shift a motorcycle or drive a standard transmission car
Okay, boomer.
It couldn’t have anything to do with maneuverability, conforming to green spaces, or simplicity in operation while multitasking everything else involved in the job...it’s because they’re millennials, which automatically means they don’t know how to shift.
Odd jab for a scooter forum...?
it's called a joke...lighten up francis...for the record born in '80, whatever generation that is
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:20 am quote
No need to get defensive, it's just a counter-joke.

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Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:14 pm quote
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No need to get defensive, it's just a counter-joke.
not defensive...just busting balls ...this is like one of the situations where my wife asks me if i'm mad at her...i say no, why?...she says well you didn't use a smiley in your text, i thought you were mad
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:56 pm quote
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for the record born in '80, whatever generation that is
Same here. Since we straddled the adoption of home computer and internet technology, I think this really depends on who you associate with more and when you adopted that technology. Personally I feel I have no connection to the millennial generation as i find more in common with with slightly older people my sister's age. But we had computer at home in the late 80s and internet around 92-93 and we're the first kids to grow up with technology at a younger age so I see our small selection of a couple years as it's own generation that doesn't fit into either neatly. Old enough to remember and live a decent amount of time without being bombarded by technology all hours of the day, but young enough when that came around to really be saturated with it and be naturally intuitive with it as a result.

Not that this relates to the topic at hand... Except that I did learn to drive in a stick and my first few cars were all manual. Wish manual transmission was still common. I guess that's why I am only interested in manual vintage Vespas.
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:50 pm quote
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Do you know the brand of the police scooters pictured?
Discontinued Piaggio Hexagon GTX. They were basically a couch on wheels but they were really good. "Parents" of the X series that came later...
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:53 pm quote
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Point37 wrote:
for the record born in '80, whatever generation that is
Same here. Since we straddled the adoption of home computer and internet technology, I think this really depends on who you associate with more and when you adopted that technology. Personally I feel I have no connection to the millennial generation as i find more in common with with slightly older people my sister's age. But we had computer at home in the late 80s and internet around 92-93 and we're the first kids to grow up with technology at a younger age so I see our small selection of a couple years as it's own generation that doesn't fit into either neatly. Old enough to remember and live a decent amount of time without being bombarded by technology all hours of the day, but young enough when that came around to really be saturated with it and be naturally intuitive with it as a result.

Not that this relates to the topic at hand... Except that I did learn to drive in a stick and my first few cars were all manual. Wish manual transmission was still common. I guess that's why I am only interested in manual vintage Vespas.
same here...i don't remember when we got our first computer but it was much later than the 80s...our first tv was in a wooden housing and had 2 knobs plus the push button/volume button and a separate antenna knob...no cable...my parents held out for a while...didn't get a cell phone till college sometime...learned to drive on a manual carbureted 87 honda civic with no power steering, manual locks and roll down windows which was my first car...drove it into the ground and got another manual 99 civic but it was fuel injected, had power locks, steering and windows...after that i sat in too much traffic commuting to work to buy another manual car...so i bought a motorcycle...i miss my motorcycles and my manual cars (when i don't sit in traffic)...maybe sometime i'll have more time to ride a motorcycle or a better commute to be able to ride a motorcycle or own another manual car
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:39 pm quote
My first was a hand me down 93 front wheel drive Integra hatchback from my parents. 170,000+ miles on it with a second transmission after I sold it. Various other manuals including Mitsubishi mini truck, 94 Jetta with radio that wouldn't work if in reverse until you opened and slammed the door and a Geo metro that I used to drive in 6+" snow an hour from Westport to my job at the Providence place mall before I moved to NYC.

You drove a stick in a Geo metro (you can probably pick up yourself with a buddy or two) in noreasters on a regular basis and you can drive in anything. Driver skill is definitely slipping as a result of the lack of manuals. Even in nyc if the snow hits the ground is like people never driven a car before and have no idea what they are doing. Ha!

But I digress.. back to your pictures of police on their two wheeler!
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:57 am quote
Piaggo Hexagon GTX
SaFis,

Thanks for the update. I thought they looked just like the old Honda Helix 250.

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