Hagon lowered rear shock set
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:53 am quote
Based on prior posts on this forum, I contacted Hagon sales several times regarding a lowering shock set for the MP3.
Today, Hagon sales responded that they created a rear lowering shock set for the MP3, but would like to refine it with another MP3 as a working model.
If any member of the forum is in the UK and is willing to work with Hagon on this project, please contact Hagon sales.

sales@hagon-shocks.co.uk

Many on this forum would benefit from a member's assistance in this endeavor, so thanks in advance.

BTW - Hagon sales said they are not developing a front shock set for the MP3.
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:30 am quote
A little more information:

"If we can have someoneís bike in the new year for around a week, that wants a set of lower rear shocks they will be compliments of us! (we want to re-do the full-length version and revise the lower version).

We are in East London, Romford borders IG63JH postcode.

The bikes are inside the building the whole time, safe and secure and are not ridden (all testing is bench and dyno)

Regardís
David
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:34 am quote
Heck of a deal for a "vertically challenged" MP3 rider.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:33 am quote
Re: Hagon lowered rear shock set
stymied wrote:
Based on prior posts on this forum, I contacted Hagon sales several times regarding a lowering shock set for the MP3.
Today, Hagon sales responded that they created a rear lowering shock set for the MP3, but would like to refine it with another MP3 as a working model.
If any member of the forum is in the UK and is willing to work with Hagon on this project, please contact Hagon sales.

sales@hagon-shocks.co.uk

Many on this forum would benefit from a member's assistance in this endeavor, so thanks in advance.

BTW - Hagon sales said they are not developing a front shock set for the MP3.
I have an old thread here on MV where I worked with Hagon in California (Now Closed).

They sent me a number of shocks and springs to get this all figured out for the rear of the MP3. Then I posted the part numbers of what it was.
This would lower the bike about 2".
Do a search and provide this info to the UK, and make sure they provide the needed spacers needed.

Keith,
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:59 am quote
Hi Keith,

I sent the part number information from your post to Hagon in my initial contact with them and I am still using that same email thread for continuity.

It looks like you collaborated with Hagon more than I thought, so I will double-check with them.

Thanks,
Steve
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:14 am quote
stymied wrote:
Hi Keith,

I sent the part number information from your post to Hagon in my initial contact with them and I am still using that same email thread for continuity.

It looks like you collaborated with Hagon more than I thought, so I will double-check with them.

Thanks,
Steve
Yea, I went through two sets of shocks, and 3 different sets of springs until I found what I have today. Once I found the "Sweet Spot", I told them...
Send me another set with plans of installing on my MP3/250.

Very happy with this solution and the shocks, they feel great.
I am sorry to see that Hagon closed up shop in the US, but they did work with the UK during my testing. At the time there was all kinds of Chinese Shocks listed on ebay that could have worked, but didn't want to go that route.

If you need any info on my shocks, I still have the new ones in the box I never opened or installed yet. I can measure them, whatever you need.
I actually purchased the caliper tool at the time to help me figure all this out.

Keith,
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:30 am quote
I really like my Piaggio branded Bitubo fully adjustable shocks.

They really transform the bike.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:14 am quote
I received a response from Hagon Sales about the part numbers Keith worked with them on.

Paraphrased from Hagon Sales:

They have the aforementioned part numbers/data.
The issues they were focussed on were
1. Clearance related to the space around the shock, which altered as it moved through its range of travel.
2. Develop a model-specific type of bushing.
3. Refine the finish.

So, getting a bike in-house is really their goal. They want to put together a proper product rather than a bunch of parts that fit.

Steve
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:02 am quote
sbaert wrote:
I really like my Piaggio branded Bitubo fully adjustable shocks.

They really transform the bike.
I am still trying to figure out if the ones piaggio sells are different than the ones everyone else is selling? they are like 750 through piaggio. and 450 from italy.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:24 pm quote
AFAIK, only the Piaggio ones (albeit made by Bitubo) have the external reservoir and fully adjustable rebound by way of a dial/knob allowing you to really "dial in" your ride for your riding style, conditions, driver weight, etc.

And they are fully rebuildable, but so are all Bitubos.

I am venturing to say that these are made to order for Piaggio exclusively as I have not seen them offered in this style by Bitubo directly.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:53 pm quote
the non reservoir type has same adjust ability? personally I dont care for the look of a reservoir that isnt really needed. both styles have spring preload and rebound adjustments. the extra oil capacity may be a good thing for a race bike, but does nothing that you would feel performance wise on a street bike. if you have compression adjustability then it would be worthy of sporting the reservoir. IMHO
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Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:50 am quote
I fully agree that the external reservoir on the Piaggio branded Bitubos are more for looks than pure necessity, but I got them at the price of the standard Bitubos (450 Euro vs. 750) so I ain't complaining.

However, the ones that really interested me (and still do) are the Malossi ones (see link). The price is unbeatable at 250 but I couldn't find any reviews on them so I went Bitubo by way of Piaggio.

Yes you give up some spring preload adjustability and the rebound, but for those on a budget these seem very tempting. Essentially anything is better than the stock Piaggio shocks, which I think is why they are now putting KYBs on the 2020 models.

https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/264478425894
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Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:42 am quote
Wow! Scooter West has the Malossi shocks for only $180. Getting down to the "sounds too good to be true" territory.

Who's going to be the guinea pig?

https://www.scooterwest.com/malossi-rear-shock-for-mp3-250-400-m4614789.html
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Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:34 am quote
hagon are Ä 210.-
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Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:45 am quote
Do the Malossi or Bitubo shocks lower the scooter height?
I could not find information if they do.
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Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:47 am quote
stymied wrote:
Do the Malossi or Bitubo shocks lower the scooter height?
I could not find information if they do.
My understanding they are OEM replacements, so the height is the same.
But maybe someone who has purchased them will reply.

Keith,
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Tue May 12, 2020 7:54 am quote
Do you think these work on 2019 MP3 Sport?
Hi,

first thank you to all of the great people who have done so much research on lowering the MP3. Especially klaborde for all the specific on the model of the shocks! I am 5'4" and the tiptoe experience is not great

I contacted Hagon Canada and they said they can ship the shocks with no problem. I am wondering if they will fit the 2019 model. I used the model and part klaborde specified.

Any insight?
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Tue May 12, 2020 8:02 am quote
Re: Do you think these work on 2019 MP3 Sport?
newbie-in-ca wrote:
Hi,

first thank you to all of the great people who have done so much research on lowering the MP3. Especially klaborde for all the specific on the model of the shocks! I am 5'4" and the tiptoe experience is not great

I contacted Hagon Canada and they said they can ship the shocks with no problem. I am wondering if they will fit the 2019 model. I used the model and part klaborde specified.

Any insight?
It is my understanding the Rear Shocks are the same on all MP3 Models, 250, 400, and 500... Unless they did something different for the 2019 and Newer that I am not familiar with. I guess a way to check a replacement shock for a older MP3, and compare it to your 2019, and see if they are the same. Call your Dealer, or check a few Websites. The Hagon Shocks with the Spacers hopefully will work. I love mine, and I have the same on both my 250 and 500.

Keith,
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Tue May 12, 2020 2:24 pm quote
I called 2 dealers and Piaggio USA. It ranged from "I have no idea" to "i would have to research that, but not now" to "Call the dealer"

The British Cycle Supply company (The Hagon distributor in North america) is checking with their UK office so I hope they will have a much better idea. They were much more willing to help! I will post an update for future struggles like me
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