Member's feedback on my choice of oil for BV350
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BV350
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Location: Edmonds Washington USA
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:13 pm quote
Getting ready for another oil change (BV350, 2013) and since the Eni Iride recommended brand is not supplied by local Vespa dealers I wanted something that met their specs but was more available, especially if on the road.

After much searching several years ago I've been using Yamalube, 15w-50, a full synthetic product which seems to label all the right words, letters, numbers and other specs.

Would be interested to here from others on this choice or if anyone else has gone this, or similar route.
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Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:06 pm quote
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:50 am quote
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:51 am quote
Nothing wrong with that choice. Be careful, I have seen some oil at the Honda dealer sit on the over priced shelf for a few years. The way I can tell is when container is different online as opposed to the dealer shelf. Buy it online where there is larger demand with lower prices, so you get fresher oil.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:13 am quote
Re: Member's feedback on my choice of oil for BV350
gwc2u wrote:
After much searching several years ago I've been using Yamalube, 15w-50, a full synthetic product which seems to label all the right words, letters, numbers and other specs.
Seems like you already have done the heavy work and found the proper oil.

Why ask a question you already answered unless you want to see us argue over oil for the 5,000th time?

Manufacturers make deals with oil companies all the time. After a while these deals end, then they make a deal with another company. That’s why owners manuals differ from year to year as to what brand they recommend. Brand does not matter. The specs of the oil is what matters, so as long as you find an oil that meet the specs outlined in the owners manual, it doesn’t matter whose name is on the label.
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BV350
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Location: Edmonds Washington USA
Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:50 pm quote
Why ask a question you already answered unless you want to s
Wasn't sure I had an answer with my oil choice, therefore the question.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:26 pm quote
Re: Why ask a question you already answered unless you want
gwc2u wrote:
Wasn't sure I had an answer with my oil choice, therefore the question.
Yamalube is known to be a very high quality motor oil. I wouldn't hesitate running it in any of my 2-wheel vehicles, assuming the specs line up appropriately. Of course, I may be a little biased - my other scooter is a Yamaha.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:31 pm quote
Agip eni I-ride isn't a spec, it is a brand. Many motor oils meet the specs identified in the Piaggio owners manual.
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BV 350
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:03 pm quote
I agree with what's been said. I had the same problem. Didn't want to order online and be stuck with only what I ordered/could carry with me. So, I went to the local Vespa dealer and they dont carry it either. I asked them what they would use if I came in for an oil change. I attached a pic of what they sent home with me. I also don't want to argue one oil versus the other. They would use this oil, they told me it would not present any type of warranty issue so I bought some and came home and changed the oil. It appears to be available in a lot of bike shops.

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Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:46 am quote
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In theory, any oil meeting the spec should work. And if the dealer uses that oil, and hasn't had problems with it, more than likely you are good to go.

On the other hand, in a half-century of mechanical adventures, often featuring things that should have worked, but didn't, I have developed the habit of using precisely what the manufacturers suggest, especially now that I can (usually) afford it. If for no other reason than, if things DO go wrong, there is no question about a substitute causing the issue. And I have the peace of mind, many miles from home, that I am not conducting experiments.

Pretty much every MC board has at least one thread on engine oil, with suggested substitutions to save a few bucks, or improve convenience. For the few extra bucks and few minutes I spend ordering the right stuff once or twice a year, I'd rather be sure.

So, yeah, my garage shelves are crowded with specialty greases, oils, filters, and fluids. But I keep my machines for 15 years or more. And rarely have problems, now.
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Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:10 am quote
I went with Motul 1500. Hit the specs...I think.
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Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:58 pm quote
I ordered oil from AF1 when I was ordering other things at the same time. I wouldn't do it again though. The shipping cost isn't worth it generally. For buying oil off the shelf, a regional NAPA auto parts store would carry what you want as well as a large multi brand motorcycle dealer. Bert's Mega Mall is a reasonable drive from my house (ten brands). While you are out and about and passing by a larger motorcycle dealer stop in and see what oils they carry and stock up if you find what you need.
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Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:44 pm quote
Re: Member's feedback on my choice of oil for BV350
[quote="Vintage1"]
gwc2u wrote:
Why ask a question you already answered unless you want to see us argue over oil for the 5,000th time?

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You can't have too many oil threads.
Start one oil thread and it's a slippery slope.
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:03 am quote
Re: Member's feedback on my choice of oil for BV350
[quote="Sledge"]
Vintage1 wrote:
gwc2u wrote:
Why ask a question you already answered unless you want to see us argue over oil for the 5,000th time?

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You can't have too many oil threads.
Start one oil thread and it's a slippery slope.
I wish I could have filtered out your post.
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Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:04 pm quote
Hello?...... It's Italian! EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL!
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:24 pm quote
Yamalube is an excellent choice. Stick with it.
I think Castrol is the new official Piaggio oil, so drain that Eni and put in Castrol before you ruin your scooter.
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:25 pm quote
Motovista is being funny as usual. Engine and gear oil are highly commoditized and if the SAE designation is correct, you’re pretty much good to go. Use a synthetic oil if you want to stretch the oil change period a little, they maintain their lubricity and detergency qualities longer than dino oils - not better than dino oils, within their change frequency.

The concept of “shelved” oil going stale is silly. Oil is already millions of years oils. Having it sit unused in an open or closed bottle for a few extra years won’t hurt a thing. (It is unlike gasoline or brake fluid in that respect, which certainly do go stale over time.)

I have found bigger differences in 2T oil. The cheaper stuff that isn’t up to the more recent JASO standards is noticeably stinkier and smokier. There I think the Motul 710 stuff at $19 a bottle (for thousands of miles of riding) is worth it.
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