bv350 or gts
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gts 300
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Location: pennsylvania
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:57 pm quote
hello I just cant decide ,I love the gts and I realy like the bv 350 , more power ,more stable ,more top end speed but not has beautiful ,has a gts im looking to buy new.i don't plan to ride on the express way ,im pa,in the country side,i used to ride a klr for many year.any advise .thanks
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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Location: Norfolk, VA
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:03 pm quote
I prefer the larger wheels myself, but totally agree the the GTS is a sharp looking ride. Take each one for a test ride, and not just around the block. Good luck making a hard choice!
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2018 Vespa GTS Super
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Location: Central Florida
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:05 pm quote
Both are great bikes, but the VESPA is the only one that will satisfy your desire, especially given your driving intentions.

I've had many bikes from Harleys and Goldwings to a GT200 with a Yamaha TMAX thrown into the mix; only the GTS300 get's used in the type of riding you plan on. For trips over 100 miles, I take my bigger Honda...
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2018 Piaggio BV 350
Joined: 08 Jun 2019
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Location: NJ
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:19 pm quote
Both beautiful machines.

My question is do you know with certainty that you will never want to go on highways/freeways with a larger wheelbase that ensures a bit more comfort/safety??

I started with a little scooter and I loved it so much I wanted to commute that way as much as possible, thus buying a BV this year.

Good luck and definitely keep us posted!
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:21 pm quote
Buy used.
Get one of each.
Easy peasy.
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2017 BV 350 Matte Black
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:43 pm quote
Try them both on for size. I had a GTS 300 and replaced it with the BV. For me, it's perfect, YMMV.
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:54 pm quote
Sorry that is a very personal decision that only you can make. Try both if you haven't already and decide based on that.

Note, we have both. My husband and I GTS 300s and my son has a BV 350 I rode his recently for the first time in about 18 months and was reminded of both its good (acceleration, handling) and bad (hump and weight) points. Which confirmed that for what I do the Vespa suits me better. Which includes interstate and long multi-day trips of several thousand miles. Now if I needed a freeway commuter or wanted to hang with sports bike riders i" the twisties the BV would be a better choice but I'm not a 25 year old male like my son.
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:54 pm quote
Well you asked.

The BV looks shite.

Get the Vespa.
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:08 pm quote
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
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gts 300
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Location: pennsylvania
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:03 pm quote
thanks a lot for your response you guys alright .
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:12 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Whatís the significance of November? April Fools, I get...but November, I must be missing something.
Molto Verboso
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:20 pm quote
Masala wrote:
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Whatís the significance of November? April Fools, I get...but November, I must be missing something.
Just not the first question Iíd expect from new people from states with snowy winters.
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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Location: Norfolk, VA
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:32 pm quote
November and December = winter/year end discounts. The time frame some people go and look at a new vehicle.
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:50 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Well, I've only been riding for about 52 years, but I always bought bikes at the time of the year when I could... ride 'em.

On the other hand, it is entertaining.

Now, as far as a GTS or a BV? If you want a Vespa, the choice is obvious. But, if what you are looking for is a scooter, there are a lot of options. If the OP doesn't really understand the differences, there is a lot more to be learned here than just the differences between the GTS and the BV.
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Vespa GTS 250ie
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:22 pm quote
If you want to play and look cute - Vespa.
If you want to become an accomplished rider and don't really care what others think - BV.
If you're just going to get groceries and stuff - Vespa.
If you're considering any travel of distances beyond ~100 miles - BV.
My opinion if only of value to me...
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2017 BV 350 Matte Black
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Location: Northern Virginia
Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:31 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
Sorry that is a very personal decision that only you can make. Try both if you haven't already and decide based on that.

Note, we have both. My husband and I GTS 300s and my son has a BV 350 I rode his recently for the first time in about 18 months and was reminded of both its good (acceleration, handling) and bad (hump and weight) points. Which confirmed that for what I do the Vespa suits me better. Which includes interstate and long multi-day trips of several thousand miles. Now if I needed a freeway commuter or wanted to hang with sports bike riders i" the twisties the BV would be a better choice but I'm not a 25 year old male like my son.
Her answer shows exactly how personal the choice is. While her 25 year old son loves the BV over the Vespa, I'm a 69 year old fart that also prefers the BV, I'm sure for different reasons. In other words, there is no "correct" choice, just your choice. It's your money, spend it where you want to.
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2020 GTS HPE 300
Joined: 23 Nov 2019
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Location: San Diego
Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:36 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Iím in San Diego. We do not have this win-ter thing you speak of. Iíll be on my scooter Christmas Day if it ainít raining
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2013 BV 350
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Location: Virginia
Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:24 am quote
If you are looking for a garage queen, get the Vespa. If you want a utilitarian ride get the BV.

For me a Vespa is just too beautiful a scooter to trash the way I do mine. Year round commuting without ever washing them.
Molto Verboso
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:56 am quote
sdscooterista wrote:
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Iím in San Diego. We do not have this win-ter thing you speak of. Iíll be on my scooter Christmas Day if it ainít raining
I understand that well. People that posted that I was referencing were from the snow belt.
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:00 am quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Masala wrote:
Vintage1 wrote:
Lots of new people joining here in November and asking about buying (in November) and taking someone on a date- did I mention itís November?....
Hmmm... A bunch of coincidences? Or are we being screwed with.....
Whatís the significance of November? April Fools, I get...but November, I must be missing something.
Just not the first question Iíd expect from new people from states with snowy winters.
Ah, got it... Maybe itís (partly, anyway) just people feeling inspired from EICMA and/or Long Beach IMS coverage online? I dunno...Iím just playing devilís advocate - youíre probably right, though.
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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:01 am quote
Back on subject for tinddu. Are you carrying a passenger? If so, bring them and get a passenger perspective, because if its not comfortable for them, they will not want to ride with you.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:39 am quote
I have both, well close. I have a 2013 BV350 and a 2020 Sei Giorni / GTV.

Speed mainly over 55 get the BV350 speed mainly under 55 get the Vespa.
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GTS 300
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:52 am quote
Re: bv350 or gts
tinddu wrote:
hello I just cant decide ,I love the gts and I realy like the bv 350 , more power ,more stable ,more top end speed but not has beautiful ,has a gts im looking to buy new.i don't plan to ride on the express way ,im pa,in the country side,i used to ride a klr for many year.any advise .thanks
I had to decide between GTS300 and BV350 in the store. Both are good but the GTS has history and shape. The BV has heavier weight and higher top speed. I decided on the GTS because the center hump is lower and makes it easier to get my feet over when I get on and off. I'm 64.The GTS goes up hills without any problem.
I'm happy I picked the GTS

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Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:58 am quote
Be careful hanging your jacket there with the exhaust is hot. Some riding gear can melt.
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GTS 300
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:07 pm quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
Be careful hanging your jacket there with the exhaust is hot. Some riding gear can melt.
Acknowledged.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:14 pm quote
Test ride both. Trust your tush. Whichever one "feels" better, go with that one.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:58 pm quote
I ride a GTS 300 in and around San Diego. Most of my riding is on the highway and I find the GTS well mannered. Iíve made trips to Yosemite, Santa Barber, LA and Palm Springs riding the highway with no problems. And the new HPE GTS is a marked improvement for highway riding easily allowing me to run at the speed limit of 65 and 70 mph even on road grades greater than 8 degrees which the pervious model struggled with. So if you want the Vespa for style, get it, for it will also delivery sufficient highway performance.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:57 pm quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
I have both, well close. I have a 2013 BV350 and a 2020 Sei Giorni / GTV.

Speed mainly over 55 get the BV350 speed mainly under 55 get the Vespa.
^^^ What he said ^^^

Iíve owned both. The GTS is still here.
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2019 BV 350, 2016 300 GTS Super Sport, 2016 150 LXV
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:47 pm quote
I am lucky enough to currently own both. I just got the BV350 earlier this year and only have about 800 miles on it. I have about 8000 on my 2016 GTS 300 SS.

Legroom- Vespa wins. The BV is a little more restrictive in the foot area. (Iím 5-10)

I got a backrest on my GTS so my wife could ride relaxed not not worry about going off the back all the time.

Since there is not a backrest available for the BV, I got a top case with matching backrest. The BV has most seat room for two riders. The pillion also sits a couple of inches higher that he driver on the stock BV seat. My wife likes the higher seating position.

I really canít say I like one over the other, and that includes my 150 LXV. I bought it to learn to ride on and bought it strictly on looks.

You canít go wrong any way you decide to go.

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Molto Verboso
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:24 am quote
GTS first and Beverly then, the first for pleasure and the second for use.
Both if possible ... (I could do it but in Italy the tax department kills you if you have more than one vehicle)
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:13 am quote
Agree with CD, only you can make the right choice for you! I'm a GTS man through and through. I can't stand the looks of the BV front end. The GTS can take you anywhere, highway, towns, country roads without issue. It's easier to service too.
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:31 am quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Iíve owned both. The GTS is still here.
Good observation. I can say the same. I enjoyed the BV350 and was impressed by its handling and power. On the other hand, it is the GTS that is still in my garage.
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:01 pm quote
Sacto Monkeyboy wrote:
Test ride both. Trust your tush. Whichever one "feels" better, go with that one.
This.
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:19 pm quote
I may be too late to this party, however. @spuds has both, and I have had both.

My first modern Vespa was a GTS 250, and I sold it to get a BV350. I just bought a very lightly used GTS 300, but I also have a Suz. V-Strom 650.

To me, the BV is a much better overall / all around bike. It is much more comfortable at highway speeds, and has better stability, power and brakes. It gives up very little to the trad Vespas in terms of maneuverability- but it does do so to some degree.

Because I have a M/C for longer trips and dragging the old lady around, I went with a Vespa for my around town scoot. But if I had only one bike, I'd definitely go for a BV 350.

As much as I love Vespas (and I do) I think that the bigger wheel bikes are a more capable, logical design. Personally, I love the modern/ contemporary Italian style of the BV as much as the traditional Vespa design.

Also, as @SCTVLR mentioned, the BV is possibly more suited for riders who don't need to be on a trad scoot. OTOH, if you were in Italy, the BV style scoot (or a maxi scoot) would be totally styling'. And more comfortable.

Both are excellent, well-made, reliable rides. But you need to have a real fondness for your ride; you need to look at it and like looking at it. Otherwise it's just a Corolla. And nobody wants that.

The two scoots really are very different rides, so take your time and be sure to get time on each. There is no 'wrong' choice except to get the scoot that really makes you smile.
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