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Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:41 pm quote
News says it's hot enough to weld down there - without a torch.
Hoping you guys are all ok and get a break in the weather ASAP.
-CM
Molto Verboso
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Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:53 pm quote
Yes lots of horrible news of fires down there. Hopefully everyone is safe.
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Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:33 pm quote
I had been watching the news, fires are out of control .
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Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:08 pm quote
Absolutely, hang in there. You guys are in our thoughts and prayers
Ossessionato
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am quote
It's pretty bloody scary. We have a few scooterists & friends there, they're safe, 1 lost everything though.

The news here shows some terrible things, and the "Gippsland Fires" (nearest to our place) has a 1000km/600mile fire-front & is expected to burn for at least 8 more weeks!

Saddest part is constantly seeing roads Il Ginchi & Myself (& many other scooterists) have ridden on The Mille... the most amazing roads, with so many twisties & stunning scenery... now merely black vertical "sticks" (trees) & white horizontal "dust" (ash), with tree trunks MELTED into the tarmac!

To put it in perspective... just heard a quote "CATASTROPHIC fire danger is when the scale gets to 100... today is was 200" in some places!
The fires are so BIG that they're creating their OWN WEATHER SYSTEMS!
There creating "funnels" (pretty much like a hurricane) up to 12km (8mile) HIGH)... a firefighter was killed when one "collapsed" & it FLIPPED their 10ton fire truck!

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Catastrophic... nope... now a full 360deg!

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Victoria, Gippsland Fires

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It got HOT today in Penrith... 48.9c / 120f!



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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:37 am quote
Hope everyone alright in there
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:06 pm quote
Best to all those effected.
Just horrible...
Ossessionato
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:26 pm quote
"A red sky at night..." must be in (the garden of)
ohh no... it's 10:18am!, but it IS in Eden... sadly, the garden is already burnt!

Yip, this was just on live TV... they say its been this red/dark since 5pm yesterday (as its summer, 06:00 sunrise, 20:30 sunset)!

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Molto Verboso
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:31 pm quote
That is terrifying. Reminds me of the movie Dante's peak.
Ossessionato
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:48 pm quote
What a difference a week makes...
I was looking back at screenshots, as many friends wanted info on where fires are vs home... heres one from the 09:00 on Monday 30th vs 10:45 Sunday 5th (ie now).... yip, thats only 6 days & shows the sheer scale & speed that it all went pear shaped

Ohh... these are for VICTORIA ONLY, the point at where the maps stop suddenly is only due to it being the border to NEW SOUTH WALES, which has a different map system (very frustrating!)

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09:00 on Monday 30th

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10:45 Sunday 5th

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Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:23 pm quote
So intense bro. Watching from a far and thinking of you guys.

Today in Auckland has been a weird yellow colour. Sort of like an eclipse or just before a big storm. Pretty sure its blow over.
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:20 pm quote
What next? I cry to see this, all the dreams and even wildlife perished, it was never like this before that I can recall(duh). I am glad that you Aussies seem to have your act together, chins up doing the best you can.

It seems like the places on our planet that still have lots of trees are the most dangerous places to be in summer. Maybe we need to outlaw or severely restrict all these damn trees and bushes! What? You say they make the oxygen we breathe? Pffft, just a rumor from climate change denial deniers! But this sure does not seem normal to me. Too many places where summer means scary time instead of vacations.







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Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm quote
a little good news
https://www.boredpanda.com/australian-bushfires-the-irwin-family-help/
Quote:
Since Half A Billion Animals Were Potentially Lost In Australian Bushfires, The Irwin Family Stepped In And Already Helped Over 90,000 Animals
Molto Verboso
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:42 pm quote
I'm so sorry to see this happening. Hang in there y'all. Stay as safe as possible. I'll be sending good vibes your way my scooter brethren....
Molto Verboso
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:18 pm quote
Just scary seeing this happening just across the Ditch. It has been a strange day here in Hamilton, not as red as Auckland but certainly affected by the blow over from the fires. Hoping all our friends and families are okay.
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:56 pm quote
Auckland is about 3000km and across a decent sized ocean from the fires... went orange and dark from just after noon today. So very eerie. The scale of this disaster is so very sad.

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Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:16 pm quote
Curious what's happening with the fire. Has there's been a little rain, and any end in sight? I haven't seen Ginch around but noticed that SEBass was riding with him earlier in the month. Hope you guys are doing ok
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:17 am quote
Willie B wrote:
Curious what's happening with the fire. Has there's been a little rain, and any end in sight? I haven't seen Ginch around but noticed that SEBass was riding with him earlier in the month. Hope you guys are doing ok
Yeah all good here thanks mate. I live a good 4 hour drive from the closest part of the fires, Melbourne (capital city of this state) is 3 hours.
Some of these fires have been burning for weeks already in inaccessible alpine areas, and will probably go for weeks more.
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:37 am quote
Glad to see you safe Mr Ginch, Sir. There seems to be a political flare up over this, but we must not speak of that. Did you see this about "cultural burning" the ancient aboriginal way? They slow burn out just the underbrush and leave all the tree canopy around settlements. Can sometimes save buildings when the forest burns.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/it-s-miraculous-owners-say-cultural-burning-saved-their-property-20200103-p53okc.html
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:01 am quote
This is bigger than politics.

This coverage from the BBC must be seen...

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Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:31 am quote
My thoughts are with you Guys.

Stay safe.

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Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:30 am quote
Absolutely terrible, so much wildlife lost and doesn’t look like things will change for quite a while.
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:05 pm quote
These fires are awful and we were warned years ago this is exactly what was going to happen.

Australia is one of biggest offenders of land clearing in the entire world. It goes without saying that forests make rain, deserts don't. Yet there's been no policy change whatsoever and no shift in the mentality of the custodians of our land.

A few months ago I drove from Melbourne (down south) up through the middle of the Eastern states as far as Northern Queensland. Over and over I witnessed farms that were nothing but dust bowls. Yet right next to a lot of these farms is healthy green, thick scrub, forest and grass lands. The contrast was obvious and frightening. I drove through a dust storm that lasted 2 days. I saw where that dust was coming from - it's wasn't coming from the forests, it was coming off the dust bowl farms with no tress or grass.

Part of what is feeding these fires is terrible land management - the raping and pillaging and destruction of our land to support a few more cattle and questionable crops. As the land degrades further and further, the clearing increases more and more to support the same amount of food. Of course this is unsustainable. You don't need a science degree to comprehend that.

There's no pressure on the farmers to start planting trees and follow better farming practices. We'll just continue to hand out money to them as the drought worsens like we always have.

Very little has changed 'on the land'. The same outdated, destructive farming practices continue to be supported.

The fires in the southern states will continue for months because they're just too big to do anything about and unfortunately they'll take out everything they touch.

My 50 acre farm in the NE of Victoria was all but destroyed a week ago by these fires. I've owned that place for over 30 years and always cared for the land in a responsible way. Yeah, I'm pissed off. It feels like 30 years of hard work down the drain. But the thing I'm most pissed off about is we saw this coming and yet nothing was done about it.
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:45 pm quote
So sad to see a lifetime of work vanish, hope you get back on your feet soon. Without getting political and speaking as one old enough to not worry as much as most of the world's population, I hate that most of the ppl who decide what is best for all of us are about as old or older than me and won't have to deal with this problem long term as it gets worse. But damn, do they just LIE to their children? Or maybe buy real estate in Greenland if it's ever for sale?
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:27 pm quote
So sorry to hear this Philos. My heart goes out to you and yours. Not in a mushy way or anything - you get my drift. And I'm with you. I'm pissed too - the earth is getting hammered and we're gonna get shaken off (or burned of) like fleas if the collective us don't get our heads out of our asses and look around...
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:53 am quote
You Aussies are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:54 pm quote
R.I.P. Bill Slade... Parks Victoria / Firefighter
We heard this morning the sad news that Bill Slade was killed last night (more below). We knew him, as he looked after the farm we stay at while riding in the hills (where Il Ginchi & I went a week or so ago), & where my partner & I have been spending most weekends over the past few years, especially while renovating our "new" home.
We had great chats about firefighting, environmental things & the (micro?) eco system i was slowly building in the creek at back of farm, started due to seeing 1x 6" native fish & deciding it needed a better "home"
He will be missed. xxx.


A firefighter has died battling a blaze in Omeo in Victoria’s alpine region, bringing the state’s death toll this bushfire season to four.

The firefighter has been identified as Bill Slade, 60. He died on Saturday by a falling tree as he fought the fires around the East Gippsland town area.

The married father of two from Wonthaggi has been remembered as one of the longest serving, most experienced and fittest firefighters. Slade had 40 years of firefighting experience and had worked on major fire incidents in the past, including the Ash Wednesday bushfires.

“This is a significant loss for the Forest Fire Management Victoria family and the community as a whole,” FFMV boss Chris Hardman said on Sunday morning.

Slade was on a taskforce working at the fire’s edge at Anglers Rest.

“Although we do have enormous experience in identifying hazardous trees, sometimes these tree failures can’t be predicted,” Mr Hardman said.

“It would have been a traumatic experience for everybody on that taskforce.”

Slade’s 40 years service was recognised in a presentation by Parks Victoria chief Matt Jackson in November.

Jackson said it was a privilege to honour Mr Slade’s career and recognise the legacy he has left, as both a firefighter and a mentor to the community – a legacy which will continue for years to come.

“Bill was a much loved colleague, friend and member of the Wonthaggi community. He’ll be sorely missed by Parks Victoria,” he said.

The firefighter’s death will be investigated by Victoria Police, who will prepare a report for the coroner
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Becoming more than a puddle

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Rocks starting to be exposed

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:00 pm quote
Haven't heard much with regards to the situation in Australia recently. Curious how our friends are fairing?
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:22 pm quote
Things are not great Willie B.. fire situation is ok but floods are causing havoc in a lot of the areas which were just burnt out.

It's been a long summer... phew.
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:42 am quote
That sucks. Hang in there, we're thinking about you
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:58 pm quote
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About covers it.

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