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Ossessionato
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:23 pm quote
Lookin' nice!!! Can't wait to see it finished...
Hooked
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:10 pm quote
Looking great. It makes me miss my GL.

I don't want to jack your thread, but I just ran across a picture of my GL rescue from ~20 years ago. It came with a free toilet plunger/custom speedo.

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Ossessionato
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:10 pm quote
The grey rubber looks great, black wouldn’t have worked for sure.
I realized something when I installed the grey rubber on my cowls, the reason you get so much is to go all the way around the perimeter of the left side cowl, I’m glad I actually stopped myself from cutting it when I went around the top and thought hey I wonder if there’s enough to go right around and have enough to do the motor cowl.
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:19 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
Birdsnest wrote:
Dang, that's gonna look good.
he said it for me
and I'll say it again... with emphasis!

Grey on grey looks the snazz. Cannot wait to see this thing put together.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:54 pm quote
Birdsnest wrote:
V oodoo wrote:
Birdsnest wrote:
Dang, that's gonna look good.
he said it for me
and I'll say it again... with emphasis!

Grey on grey looks the snazz. Cannot wait to see this thing put together.
Go on Mike, tell us how shit it looks in real life again! We didn't believe you then either!
Ossessionato
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:09 am quote
Ginch wrote:
Go on Mike, tell us how shit it looks in real life again! We didn't believe you then either!
bodgemaster
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:58 am quote
Ha, seriously if you guys only knew. The pics have all been carefully framed to maintain the illusion of a semi-decent spray job. pm me and I’ll happily share pics of all the runs, blobs, bumps, waves, overspray, dry spots, etc. Maybe I’ll do a big reveal of all the goofs and screw ups at the end of the thread.

gmontag: What a jewel that GL was. By all means, keep hijacking. It gives me inspiration.
Ossessionato
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:45 am quote
We're always our own worst critics, Mike!

No matter how good a job I do on anything with an aesthetic element to it, my eye is inevitably drawn to the little spot that I missed or messed up.

I don't have to like it, but I've learned to live with it over the years.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:03 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
We're always our own worst critics, Mike!

No matter how good a job I do on anything with an aesthetic element to it, my eye is inevitably drawn to the little spot that I missed or messed up.

I don't have to like it, but I've learned to live with it over the years.
I think learning to live with it is the toughest part, whether anyone else knows the fault (s ) or not is not important, we still have to live with it, I struggle.
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:38 am quote
Yep, yep mustn’t focus on flaws. They’ll drive you batty. Onward...

Question for the team: Just put an order in for some aluminum legshield trim but realized after hitting the submit button - naturally - that I may not have ordered the right stuff. Seems it comes in different thicknesses. Anyone know what’s correct for a GL? Gonna give the crimping tool another try (thx MJ).

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Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:31 am quote
30mm wide, 1mm thick.
Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:32 am quote
That tool is a must for installing the thin legshield trim.
When are the floor rails going on?
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:48 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
30mm wide, 1mm thick.
Thx c. Got a link?

Rails after trim.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:38 am quote
Looks beautiful! What’s planned for the motor? Original GL? Or?
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm quote
Thank you Langolson. Using the original GL lump with a Pinasco top end and some minor mods. There’s a pic on p.7 and more details in that general vicinity.
Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:43 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
chandlerman wrote:
30mm wide, 1mm thick.
Thx c. Got a link?

Rails after trim.
No such luck. I just went out to the garage and measured what's on my GL since I know it's OG.
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:02 am quote
Original trim up front, cleaned and straightened but not polished. Leaving the scuffs for character.

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Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:08 am quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Original trim up front, cleaned and straightened but not polished. Leaving the scuffs for character.
Lookin' sharp!

If you change your mind on the trim, check out 3M Marine Aluminum Restorer and Polish, 09020. That's what I used on the trim on my boat, which had been sitting in a field since the late 80's and the difference was amazing.

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One before, one after on the inner & outer transom plates

Molto Verboso
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:53 am quote
CM - looks awesome. Like the way you left the beer can rings too. 🙂

SoCal - Missed this while considering how I should tackle the needed garage clean out...

Looks very cool - tho have to admit - I would be tempted to use some of that polish (with a felt wheel on a Dremel cause Im lazy).

'Course once you start...
Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:03 pm quote
I did the same with all the trim, a bit of cleanup but I figured it looked more like it was acting its age. Looking good there.
Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:14 pm quote
SoCalGuy I recall seeing a post a bit back that you had said you were successful at adding an extension wire to your Trail Tech Temp guage, I got mine now but of course I could only mount it on the front of the hump by the legshield, can you advise on what guage wire you used for the extension and how it was to solder? I don't know if the stock wire that came with it is a strand wire or solid wire and I don't want to cut it until I get more information. Thanks
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:40 pm quote
pm'd you Lynn.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:59 pm quote
Great work on the trim!

Don't know if that's your final position of the trim but you may want to push it forward a little. Something like on of the pics in the link below. Match up the end of the trim with the end of the crease on the fender. It's not even but the pic will give you an idea of where it should sit.
https://www.dpclassics.co.uk/products/vepa

BTW, most repop fender trim are for the GS and not the GL as you can see the actual trim for the GL is smaller. Haven't been able to find actual GL repop fender trim.

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Ossessionato
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:08 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
pm'd you Lynn.
Thanks Mike
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:31 pm quote
rowdyc wrote:
Great work on the trim!

Don't know if that's your final position of the trim but you may want to push it forward a little. Something like on of the pics in the link below. Match up the end of the trim with the end of the crease on the fender. It's not even but the pic will give you an idea of where it should sit.
https://www.dpclassics.co.uk/products/vepa

BTW, most repop fender trim are for the GS and not the GL as you can see the actual trim for the GL is smaller. Haven't been able to find actual GL repop fender trim.
Good eye rowdy, adjustment made.

And yes, the repop seems to be for GS although sold as GL
bodgemaster
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:57 pm quote
Since you guys prefer shiny, here ya go

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Ossessionato
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:53 pm quote
Looks great, what was your technique?
I left for taillite and that top molding aged looking.
Ossessionato
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:12 pm quote
Oh, Hell yeah!

That trim looks awesome and matches the new paint nicely
Molto Verboso
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:50 pm quote
Oh man - that definitely brings it to life.
I'll need to own some of that polish.
bodgemaster
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:50 am quote
Quote:
what was your technique?
Sand with successively finer grits, then polish.
Sergeant at Arms
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:39 pm quote
Pretty work mike, pretty work.

Can’t wait to see this all together.

-g
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:51 pm quote
Looking good

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Ossessionato
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:18 am quote
Mike can you tell me what the width is for the bottom of your shock where it goes over the motor mount? I'm looking at a shock and its not listed for vbb but I think its the same. I get 1.89" ( 47.9mm ) and shock appears to be 15”-3/4length where it goes through frame down to bolt centre if that makes a difference.

Shows listed on Scootermercato as VLA Vespa GL 62 - 65 150 Large Frame - 10 in.

http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Rear-Shocks/174238IP-B?fbclid=IwAR0diD0MNvKrHdnxRwWv3rlGeoG99m_Q8QnIkYDSP-GrcO0Wv1AC9i5wt0M

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bodgemaster
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:00 am quote
Same. ~1.88 in.

GL and VBB use different spacer nuts at the top, otherwise, same factory shock.

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Ossessionato
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:08 am quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Same. ~1.88 in.

GL uses a different spacer nut at the top. Otherwise, same shock.
perfect thankyou, found my shock then.
bodgemaster
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:11 am quote
Call and check the overall length.
You may need a different size spacer.
bodgemaster
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:06 am quote
mr.j wrote:
Looking good
Thx buddy... hey how ya been? Hope you’re not letting the ET3 get all cobwebby. Keep in touch!
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:39 am quote
New mat, original trim

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Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 am quote
beautious.

but for the love of all that is holy, would you put some washers under those bolt heads? if not for the good lord, just for, like my OCD-ness of fasteners and things fastener adjacent.

besides, you done worked your ass off on that paint and body and i'd hate to see it gacked up something fierce because of that.

-g
bodgemaster
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:19 am quote
You’d think, right?

But my OCD says no flat washers up top and no LOBO marked bolt heads on bikes built pre-circa ’67.
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