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Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:54 pm quote
tonyc wrote:
...Mock the Chinese all you want, but they've been back to work, rebuilding their economy and fighting America since MAY. MAY !@~(*&$#
That's because they have a leader who says: "Wear a mask."

When the Chinese get told to wear a mask, two things happen.
1.They all have masks available, because in their culture they wear masks even if they get a sniffle.
2. They wear a mask... everywhere.

"I've got my rights!" has infected and killed many in the USA.

My son heard yesterday that a university colleague of his had died after 21 days on a ventilator.
The deceased was 30 years of age, fit and healthy.
A really sneaky virus, this one...!
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:41 pm quote
Yesterday I went to a funeral, here only allowed in large rooms and with all precautions ...
Everyone wore masks and in the church there was plenty of disinfectant liquid (many containers); the places were marked to get the right distance and a sacristan checked the observance of the rules.
At communion people went by looking at the spacing strips on the floor (all explained on instructions at the entrance); I did not participate (I am of another rite) but I would have abstained anyway.
The problem was the moment of condolences which, as some may know, in Italy involves very expansive kisses and hugs ...
Unfortunately, I took two kisses and hugs (but always with the mask) and immediately after (moment of laughter for you) I spread the disinfectant liquid on my face and bare arms that I "always" carry with me .... forgetting that I had shaved my face just before going to the church service ... OUCH! It burned! Ouch, ouch, oucccch ...!
When I got home I took a long shower, lathering myself heavily and completely changed my clothes .... you never know.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:59 am quote
Jim McClain wrote:
Miguel wrote:
Sturgis, now categorized as a super-spreader event, the unmasked/no-physical-distancing RNC at the White House, the recent Trump Rallies, and now the HD event has a high probability of killing off voters. So have college parties and private parties. I understand stupid. I don't understand ignorance and belligerence.

So frustrating, especially for all of us that have been diligently wearing masks, washing hands and physical distancing for a 1/2 year to solve a problem that should have only taken a month. Sheesh!

Miguel
My sentiments exactly.

I had the biggest scare of my life this year when I had to be evacuated from my apartment (Quincy, CA) because of fire danger. The evac center was the local high school, but some of the people weren't wearing masks and there was very little social distancing. And they didn't have any oxygen concentrators for those of us on o2 24/7. They told me the hospital was taking people with medical conditions but when I got there, they also didn't have concentrators for "non-patients." I did tell one nurse that if she waited long enough, some of us needing oxygen would become patients almost immediately after our portable tanks ran out. She didn't see the humor in that - not that I was looking for a laugh.

Then my friend, a Highway Patrol captain, said I could come stay with her and her husband 45 miles away from the fire. I headed straight there. Her and her hubby weren't wearing masks and tried to convince me I had nothing to worry about. When I asked how often they got tested, she said never. She also said they were moving to Sacto and would be busy doing that while I stayed there and the new tenant wouldn't be arriving for a week. I slept on an air mattress that night and got up to a house full of their friends and co-workers helping them clean, pack and move - none of them wearing masks.

I was relieved when I had the place to myself later that day, but then a cleaning crew came in (also friends of theirs) the next day and again, no masks in sight. What the friggin' hell! I had no place else to go so I just tried to stay away from everyone else. I was there 6 days with the last 3 alone when my friend called to tell me the fire had reached another area where some of her cop friends lived and told them they could come to this house too.

The next morning they lifted the evac order for my neighborhood and I headed home. I knew the smoke in the area was bad, but figured it was safer than being around more people who thought masks were optional around a 70-year old with lung disease. I got home and heard a news report that Quincy, CA was the most toxic air quality in the whole nation. I think it was at #1 or 2 for several days.

I spent the last 3 days in a hotel in Reno because the power company decided to shut the electricity off for 10 or 12 counties up here because of more fire danger. I worried about the cost of such a trip and the danger of being around a lot of people that might not be taking COVID-19 seriously, but I didn't have a lot of choices left. But everywhere in the hotel it was mask-required and middle of the week was very small occupancy, even for a popular resort-casino (Silver Legacy). And the price for my room was half what I thought it would be, including the mobility scooter they let me use. It was a relatively safe excursion, but I am relieved to be home again and the smoke has eased up considerably, although I couldn't see the sun at all during the last 40 miles of my drive home.

Now I just have to sweat out the next couple weeks to see if I develop any symptoms. I've had to go to more extreme lengths to avoid infection than I should have if everyone just had the common sense and decency to think of more than personal comfort and vanity. It doesn't help when political leaders and people of influence don't set good examples. Consequently, many of us with age and health conditions against us live in fear for our lives.
Hopefully, you've reached the end of your bad-luck but I fear divisive and deliberately misleading statements and actions mean that we have to redouble efforts to protect ourselves. Keep telling yourself to "Be strong". Don't let your guard down. Look forward, not backwards. Keep pushing man!!

Miguel



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Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:45 pm quote
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:11 am quote
Good news for South Africa !

Rate of new infections falling fast. Only 10% of hospital beds and under 30% of ICU beds are currently COVID patients.

President Ramaphosa just announced Level one restrictions from midnight Sunday.

Compulsory face masks, sanitizing and 1.5 m social distancing to continue for foreseeable future.

Limited and heavily controlled International travel permitted from 1 Oct from countries not on a Red List.

Entertainment, social and religious venues can accommodate 50% licensed capacity with maximum of 250 persons indoor and 500 outdoors. Funerals now limited to 100 persons, up from 50 before, but overnight vigils still prohibited.

Tourism is going to breathe a sigh of relief. They have only recently been opened to local travel.

COVID app encouraged to be downloaded free to inform social contact tracing if anyone tests positive.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:28 am quote
Great news!
Fudmucker wrote:
Compulsory face masks, sanitizing and 1.5 m social distancing to continue for foreseeable future.
Hey, maybe we should try that in the U.S.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:34 am quote
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Great news!
Fudmucker wrote:
Compulsory face masks, sanitizing and 1.5 m social distancing to continue for foreseeable future.
Hey, maybe we should try that in the U.S.
50% licensed capacity sounds pretty high especially in the entertainment and social category.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:42 pm quote
tonyc wrote:
Los Angeles has basically killed Halloween due to covid19:
https://abc7.com/halloween-2020-coronavirus-covid-19-los-angeles/6416043/

I'm predicting Thanksgiving will be killed as well. Hopefully Christmas survives?
L.A. didn't kill Halloween. The rona did.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:06 pm quote
L.A.zybones wrote:
tonyc wrote:
Los Angeles has basically killed Halloween due to covid19:
https://abc7.com/halloween-2020-coronavirus-covid-19-los-angeles/6416043/

I'm predicting Thanksgiving will be killed as well. Hopefully Christmas survives?
L.A. didn't kill Halloween. The rona did.
Kind of a no brainer and yes Santa is working from home this year. No company parties and hopefully no packed malls. Christmas might very well be a super spreader event. Even if there is a vaccine by then supplies will be limited. Small family get togethers should be fine but the dreaded second wave may also hit, hard to say on that. Hey, 2021 has to be better but yeah don't expect massive New Years Eve parties either. If I'm popping a bottle of Dom It'll just be me and the wife.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:12 pm quote
Harbinger wrote:
fledermaus wrote:
Great news!
Fudmucker wrote:
Compulsory face masks, sanitizing and 1.5 m social distancing to continue for foreseeable future.
Hey, maybe we should try that in the U.S.
50% licensed capacity sounds pretty high especially in the entertainment and social category.
It is quite odd to see half the seats in a movie theatre with red tape X's stuck on them. ALL stores and businesses have a sign up saying "No mask, No entry" AND they take your temperature before you are allowed in. You no like? You shop on-line...!

One of the big risks we were all concerned about is our minibus taxis that the majority of African workers use to get to and from work. They are 16-seaters and are usually crammed to full capacity. When they were permitted at 50% capacity there was a backlash strike by the taxi drivers and the government then permitted 100% but with masks, sanitizing and all windows to be open.

Actually it is understandable. Taxi owners don't drive. They subcontract that to drivers in shifts. Each shift driver must return the taxi with full tank and a certain amount of money in cash so the owner can make his payment to the finance house and get something for himself. All other costs (fuel, cleaning etc) are funded by the driver, so if the driver is only earning 50% but has 100% input costs, there is nothing left for him.

The long-distance buses (usually owner operated) remain restricted to 50% capacity with masks and sanitizing.

It has been six months of serious economic hardship, but our death rate is now 264 per 1M population compares to 600+ in US, UK and other EU countries. With no vaccine and limited testing, government health officials are now going to do widespread plasma antibody testing to determine if we are in 'herd immunity' or if we ducked it like NZ and other countries. With lots of sunshine, they think that Vitamin D has played a strong role in our immunity resistance.
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Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:44 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:
znomit wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
You never know, perhaps the effective treatment of COVID 19 will come from the plant the tobacco industry hates with a passion!
I'm conducting a scientific study using daily doses of beer and potato chips. So far I'm 100% Covid free, and my family too.
Is that how New Zealand has done so well?
I'm in.
Plus Hokey-Pokey...
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:07 pm quote
Harbinger wrote:
Even if there is a vaccine by then supplies will be limited.
Try telling that to some people who think we are going to have one by the end of October and everything will be just rosy right after that!

Even if the current front runners in the vaccine race do prove to be successful in fighting the virus how long is it going to take to mix up a batch that will treat several hundred million people if we are only talking about North America?

Then there are the anti-vaxxers to deal with and I just might be one of those for at least the near future because of the rushed effort to get this one out there!

Also some reports I have seen, but don't know if they are accurate, say that the vaccines may only be 50% effective! Is that going to be enough to call it a success?
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:29 pm quote
kshansen wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
Even if there is a vaccine by then supplies will be limited.
Try telling that to some people who think we are going to have one by the end of October and everything will be just rosy right after that!

Even if the current front runners in the vaccine race do prove to be successful in fighting the virus how long is it going to take to mix up a batch that will treat several hundred million people if we are only talking about North America?

Then there are the anti-vaxxers to deal with and I just might be one of those for at least the near future because of the rushed effort to get this one out there!

Also some reports I have seen, but don't know if they are accurate, say that the vaccines may only be 50% effective! Is that going to be enough to call it a success?
Actually the number of people I know and consider fairly intelligent and saying they do not want to take the vaccine at first is surpassingly high. For me, if the Canadian governments vets a vaccine I will take it. I DO NOT want one that is rushed through whether for political reasons or other but I mostly feel our government has handled the health situation well. Face it, a vaccine is the only really viable way this pandemic is going to end quickly , with "quickly" being a relative term. My guess is at best end of Q2 next year though Q3 is more likely. Ideally by summer tourism season in the northern hemisphere but time will tell. We've been dealing with this for a while now and yet I still find the whole thing pretty surreal. Those of us that live in places where winter is really a thing are in for a long one I think. At least for the moment going for a walk/ride etc is an escape. When the temps drop well below the freezing point cabin fever will really kick in to high gear .
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:20 pm quote
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For me, if the Canadian governments vets a vaccine I will take it. I DO NOT want one that is rushed through whether for political reasons or other but I mostly feel our government has handled the health situation well.
Sad to have to say it but every day down here I have just the opposite feelings reinforced. Seems like science is not something that holds any power here anymore.

Not to say the scientists have not make mistakes!:
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:59 pm quote
kshansen wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
For me, if the Canadian governments vets a vaccine I will take it. I DO NOT want one that is rushed through whether for political reasons or other but I mostly feel our government has handled the health situation well.
Sad to have to say it but every day down here I have just the opposite feelings reinforced. Seems like science is not something that holds any power here anymore.

Not to say the scientists have not make mistakes!:
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
Oh I hear you man... to quote Dr Evil.. "It got weird, didn't it?". Maybe sharks with freaknen' laser beams can take care of it?
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:22 pm quote
I got my flu shot, my very first, egg allergy, like serious rush me to hospital, it better be next door type allergy so have avoided that but an ear infection had me at Walmart waiting for that Antibiotic and gee, they were doing flu shots, no waiting and had the flu vaccine for those of us that are ‘special’. That saying, I will surely do my Covid-19 vaccination, as soon as I can be as confident as I was for this very first flu shot. Heck I work in meat packing plant with redneck Trumpers everywhere, mostly The ‘heck No, mask types! The only way we will get some normal here in the USA is with masks and wearing them and keeping them sanitary and bloody caring about Not getting others sick.
I want some normal back, yes, we are having a scooter rally, but it’s very small, a lot of our usual stuff is Not happening and gee, St. Louis has a very awesome set up for all their food truck vendors/businesses. An area where they rotate, with ample parking, shaded areas for eating with plenty of space, trash and even necessities like bathroom facilities for old bladders... masks are required, we won’t have our after party, we won’t have our Sunday breakup brunch at The Crow’s Nest, and that place is 1 that might never open back up.
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:40 pm quote
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I got my flu shot, my very first, egg allergy, like serious rush me to hospital, it better be next door type allergy so have avoided that but an ear infection had me at Walmart waiting for that Antibiotic and gee, they were doing flu shots, no waiting and had the flu vaccine for those of us that are ‘special’. That saying, I will surely do my Covid-19 vaccination, as soon as I can be as confident as I was for this very first flu shot. Heck I work in meat packing plant with redneck Trumpers everywhere, mostly The ‘heck No, mask types! The only way we will get some normal here in the USA is with masks and wearing them and keeping them sanitary and bloody caring about Not getting others sick.
I want some normal back, yes, we are having a scooter rally, but it’s very small, a lot of our usual stuff is Not happening and gee, St. Louis has a very awesome set up for all their food truck vendors/businesses. An area where they rotate, with ample parking, shaded areas for eating with plenty of space, trash and even necessities like bathroom facilities for old bladders... masks are required, we won’t have our after party, we won’t have our Sunday breakup brunch at The Crow’s Nest, and that place is 1 that might never open back up.
Yeah it's sad Maggie. This thread is slow for well the obvious political reasons and it's hard to keep that in check with something that is such a hot topic... on both sides. It's also slow because well... we're all tired of it. That's a problem where I live too and we've done a pretty good job. BUT private gatherings have been cut back to no more than 10 people and I expect more restrictions are on the way. People are getting lazy and I"m seeing more masks with noses popping out and a more lackadaisical attitude. The thing is the virus hasn't gone anywhere and winter is coming. We are already seeing the uptick and Thanksgiving is on the horizon then Christmas and it will not be gone by Easter. We just need to get through this and I do think the economy will rebound but things will to some extent be permanently changed.
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In Latina city in line with the car in front of the hospital, all at the "tampone drive". Saliva and samples collection to undergo Covid analysis. Even 6 hours without drinking and going to the toilet ... madness.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:32 am quote
kshansen wrote:
Not to say the scientists have not make mistakes!:
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
That wasn't a mistake, they did that on purpose.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:19 am quote
Teenaged daughter told me yesterday that one good thing about the virus is the amount of time she and I have been able to spend together. for these past months.
(I'm retired , her college is all on-line)
For 5 straight weeks, during the local shut-down, my wife was home, too.
In our 30 yr marriage we had never been able to spend that amount of time together.
Sunrise walks with the pup were a near daily event for the 3 of us!

We're back to arguing about which movie to watch - but it was great there for a time!
O.S.

PS: I know how lucky our family has been. My retirement pension is locked in , my wife's medical job is secure - even my daughter's part-time job is secure. We're up to date on all our payments.
But I see the food lines at the local 2nd Harvest several days each week.
We tip heavily the delivery persons, and at my coffee shop.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:40 am quote
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:27 am quote
monogodo wrote:
kshansen wrote:
Not to say the scientists have not make mistakes!:
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
That wasn't a mistake, they did that on purpose.
I guess it's all in how you define a "mistake" ! Just because something was planned and the plan was followed to the letter does not mean, at least to me, that it was not a mistake to take on the project.

It would not take too much effort to come up with things that I would consider "mistakes" over the years, but many of them would probably get me banned from the forum!
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:55 am quote
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Teenaged daughter told me yesterday that one good thing about the virus is the amount of time she and I have been able to spend together. for these past months.
(I'm retired , her college is all on-line)
For 5 straight weeks, during the local shut-down, my wife was home, too.
In our 30 yr marriage we had never been able to spend that amount of time together.
Sunrise walks with the pup were a near daily event for the 3 of us!

We're back to arguing about which movie to watch - but it was great there for a time!
O.S.

PS: I know how lucky our family has been. My retirement pension is locked in , my wife's medical job is secure - even my daughter's part-time job is secure. We're up to date on all our payments.
But I see the food lines at the local 2nd Harvest several days each week.
We tip heavily the delivery persons, and at my coffee shop.
That is all good and I'm glad for you and your family. We're lucky as well and so is my business though we did take a hit for a while. The Canadian government did a pretty good job though and while we needed it the financial aid really did help. Now we are back to where we were pre pandemic and actually up a bit as we gained 2 clients and lost none. Just one client we renegotiated for a lesser amount but the new clients more than make up for it. So no layoffs and I'm making a bit more and we are back to giving out bonuses monthly on top of full salaries.

Like you I tip very well right now and feel for the less fortunate. Our charitable donations go to our local non kill humane society and donkey sanctuary as they need it now more than ever as donations are understandably down and I have a real soft spot for animals. Yeah big ole tough me cares a whole lot about animal welfare.Though I do what I can for people too and have given to the local food bank.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:59 pm quote
Lock-down has made or broken a lot of marriages here.
A friend works in a law firm that handles a lot of divorce cases and tells me that their books have tripled since lockdown with spouses spending so much time together.

Gender-based violence skyrocketed too.
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:04 am quote
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Lock-down has made or broken a lot of marriages here.
A friend works in a law firm that handles a lot of divorce cases and tells me that their books have tripled since lockdown with spouses spending so much time together.

Gender-based violence skyrocketed too.
Even for single people, it is rough. A friend of mine who was working full time with two boys, was struggling before the virus hit but managing. Now, my heart goes out to her. She works from home, both her energetic boys school from home, and she also is in the nursing program I am in. I have no idea how she does it.

I read an article discussing the suicidal idealization rates reported with people after mandatory lockdowns and it is not good. I have been through hell this year but I am alright. I do worry about others who are not accustomed to being isolated from family and friends. I used to hate talking on the phone and using video chat. I still kind of do but I force myself to communicate with others often and regularly. I have also now taken up writing letters and mailing things to those who do not use social media or smartphones. I lost my father about two weeks ago and can not get out to his memorial gathering so my family will save me some of his ashes so when I can travel after this hell of a semester, I can then say my goodbyes and grieve fully. No joke, there will be LOTS of people with mental health issues coming out of this pandemic. Combine that with political and financial upheaval... no bueno

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/is-this-rock-bottom-as-we-near-the-six-month-mark-of-washingtons-covid-19-stay-home-order-mental-health-experts-warn-that-things-may-get-worse/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/08/13/covid-19-takes-mental-toll-youth-minorities-essential-workers/3365719001/
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:36 am quote
froggieposition wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Lock-down has made or broken a lot of marriages here.
A friend works in a law firm that handles a lot of divorce cases and tells me that their books have tripled since lockdown with spouses spending so much time together.

Gender-based violence skyrocketed too.
Even for single people, it is rough. A friend of mine who was working full time with two boys, was struggling before the virus hit but managing. Now, my heart goes out to her. She works from home, both her energetic boys school from home, and she also is in the nursing program I am in. I have no idea how she does it.

I read an article discussing the suicidal idealization rates reported with people after mandatory lockdowns and it is not good. I have been through hell this year but I am alright. I do worry about others who are not accustomed to being isolated from family and friends. I used to hate talking on the phone and using video chat. I still kind of do but I force myself to communicate with others often and regularly. I have also now taken up writing letters and mailing things to those who do not use social media or smartphones. I lost my father about two weeks ago and can not get out to his memorial gathering so my family will save me some of his ashes so when I can travel after this hell of a semester, I can then say my goodbyes and grieve fully. No joke, there will be LOTS of people with mental health issues coming out of this pandemic. Combine that with political and financial upheaval... no bueno

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/is-this-rock-bottom-as-we-near-the-six-month-mark-of-washingtons-covid-19-stay-home-order-mental-health-experts-warn-that-things-may-get-worse/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/08/13/covid-19-takes-mental-toll-youth-minorities-essential-workers/3365719001/
I’m very sorry to hear about your father. My sincere condolences.
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:25 am quote
My condolences on the death of your father, froggieposition.

Strength to you for your mourning.
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Thank you for your kind words.
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:05 pm quote
Best wishes Froggie. Mrs Z lost her dad going into lockdown here so there was no service and she wasn't even able to travel there for a few months. It's tough.


In news from paradise in the south pacific, we went 5 days with no community cases, then one popped up. Someone who had been through the 14 day immigration quarantine tested positive 5 days later. They think he caught it on the flight from India and was asymptomatic (and returned two negative tests) through the entire quarantine period.
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:33 pm quote
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In news from paradise in the south pacific, we went 5 days with no community cases, then one popped up. Someone who had been through the 14 day immigration quarantine tested positive 5 days later. They think he caught it on the flight from India and was asymptomatic (and returned two negative tests) through the entire quarantine period.
That is very disconcerting. If he was asymptomatic, he may have had a very low viral count and so the negative tests could have missed the bug.
It may mean that quarantine needs to be extended to 21days...
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:11 pm quote
Fudmucker wrote:
That is very disconcerting. If he was asymptomatic, he may have had a very low viral count and so the negative tests could have missed the bug.
It may mean that quarantine needs to be extended to 21days...
Supposedly incubation can be up to 24 days.

We're getting better at this. Initially we didn't think all people in quarantine needed to be tested because if they didn't show symptoms during the two weeks they were clear. And they probably are. Now everyone gets tested at 3 days and then before leaving quarantine. We are seeing a lot of positive cases coming in from India now.
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:53 am quote
I see a commercial opportunity in having a quarantine resort for visitors...

Friends of mine have a seafront apartment and they very quickly moved there just before the first lock-down. 6 weeks of unscheduled vacation time where the boss could not demand that you return to office immediately.
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:38 am quote
MY condolences froggieposition as well. This has been so hard on so many people. Too many lives cut short early and yes, the mental damage is no small thing. I feel it even though I have been OK through this personally and professional. It's just not "normal" and everything feels off. Besides lost loved ones I have known so many people that have lost their cat or dog during this including myself. They also do not like change.
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:07 am quote
We had to put Ellen, our 14 y.o. little Dachs-Terrier cross to sleep on Saturday morning. Sad event. Her memory loves on in countless photos. But at least we could be with her at the end.

Many have had to take their farewells of family and dear friends in private.

Couples have had to put off weddings because the guests could not attend.
Devastating to brides, I am sure. Not a good start to a marriage.
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:59 am quote
Fudmucker wrote:
We had to put Ellen, our 14 y.o. little Dachs-Terrier cross to sleep on Saturday morning. Sad event. Her memory loves on in countless photos. But at least we could be with her at the end.

Many have had to take their farewells of family and dear friends in private.

Couples have had to put off weddings because the guests could not attend.
Devastating to brides, I am sure. Not a good start to a marriage.
So sorry to hear that, I know how hard it is. This is a year none of us will ever forget.
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:20 pm quote
[quote="froggieposition"]I lost my father about two weeks ago and can not get out to his memorial gathering so my family will save me some of his ashes so when I can travel after this hell of a semester, I can then say my goodbyes and grieve fully. [/quote="froggieposition"]

Sad to hear that, Amy. Deborah and I send our condolences.
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:07 am quote
Oh...condolences.
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Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:38 am quote
Thank you all. 2020 has been one for the record books and not in a good way.
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