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Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:46 pm quote
POTUS will be fine so long as he's not old, overweight and listens to medical advice...
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:51 pm quote
Re: Trump has Covid
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Trump, First Lady and others in White House have Covid. This changes everything. Stay calm and carry on.

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Covid does not look to caste.
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:22 pm quote
VesperGeezer wrote:
POTUS will be fine so long as he's not old, overweight and listens to medical advice...
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:21 am quote
Re: Trump has Covid
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Covid does not look to caste.
Of course it does. The poor will suffer most due to cramped living conditions and lack of healthcare.
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:28 am quote
Re: Trump has Covid
znomit wrote:
Attila wrote:
Covid does not look to caste.
Of course it does. The poor will suffer most due to cramped living conditions and lack of healthcare.
True but the final result is the same for everyone and believing that you can always determine the outcome is a small hope.
There is a poem in the Neapolitan dialect that I adapted to the English language, written by the great comic actor and poet Totò:

The level (intended as the tool used by builders to level)

Every year, on November 2nd, there is the custom
for the dead to go to the Cemetery.
Everyone must follow this custom;
everyone must have this thought.

Every year, punctually, on this day,
of this sad and sad occasion,
I go there too, and with some flowers adorned
the tombstone of aunt Vicenza.

This year an adventure happened to me ...
after having made the sad homage.
Madonna! yes I think, and what a fear !,
but a little bit made a soul and courage.

The fact is this, listen to me:
closing time was approaching:
I, slowly, was about to leave
taking a look at some burials.

"Here the noble Marquis sleeps in peace
lord of Rovigo and Belluno
bold hero of a thousand deeds
died May 11, 31 "

The coat of arms with a crown above everything ...
... under a cross made of light bulbs;
three bouquets of mourning roses:
candles, candlesticks and six tealights.

Right next to this tomb of this gentleman
there was another little tomb,
abandoned, without missing a flower;
to mark only a small cross.

Above the cross we just read:
"Esposito Gennaro - garbage man":
looking at her, how sorry it was
this dead man without missing a light!

This is the life! In my head I thought ...
who has had so much and who has had nothing!
This poor man expected
that the other world was also poor?

As I fantasized this thought,
it was already almost midnight,
and I was locked inside a prisoner,
died of fear ... in front of the candles.

Suddenly I see from afar?
Two shadows approaching me ...
I thought: this fact seems strange to me ...
I am stunned ... do I sleep, or is it fantasy?

Other than fantasy; it was the Marquis:
with the tuba, the monocle and the overcoat;
the other one behind him was a bad thing;
all smelly and with a broom in hand.

And that certainly is Don Gennaro ...
'the poor dead man ... the man with the broom
'in this fact I do not see clearly:
did they die and retire at this hour?

They could have been close to me,
when the Marquis stops suddenly,
turns and slowly and calmly,
he says to Don Gennaro: "Young man!

From you I would like to know, vile carrion,
with what daring and how you dared
to have you buried, to my shame,
next to me who am emblazoned!

Caste is chaste and must be respected,
but You lost sense and measure;
your body was, yes, buried;
but buried in the garbage!

I cannot bear even further
your stinking closeness,
it is right, therefore, that you seek a ditch
among your peers, among your people "

"Mr. Marquis, it's not my fault,
I would not have done you this wrong;
it was my wife who did this nonsense,
What could I do if I was dead?

If I were alive I would make you happy,
I would take the coffin and the four bones
I'd go out to go now to another pit
".

"And what are you waiting for, oh ugly ill-created,
that my anger reaches the surplus?
If I hadn't been a titled
I would have already given vent to violence! "

"Let me understand, take this violence ...
'The truth, Marquis, is that I was bored to listen to you,
and if I lose my patience
I forget that I am dead and they are blown! ...

But who do you think you are ... a god?
In here (at the cemetery), 'do you want to understand that we are the same? ...
... You are dead and I am dead too;
each as it was born as and as ".

"Filthy pig! ... How dare you
compare you to me who was born
illustrious, most noble and perfect,
to make Royal Princes envious? ".

"Not at all Christmas, Easter and Epiphany !!!
You want to get into your head ... into your brain
that being sick is still fantasy? ...
'Do you know what death is? ... it's a level.

'The King, the magistrate, the great man,
crossing this gate he understood
who has lost everything, his life and even his name:
understood and put it in the account?

So listen to me ... don't resist,
bear me close and what do you care?
These antics are only made by the living:
we are serious ... we belong to death! "



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Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:49 am quote
Well things just got interesting. I don't think this is as serious as when Regan was shot but the news coverage was almost as crazy while the story was breaking. Hopefully all goes well and at best we get a good SNL skit out of it. Anyone remember the Buckwheat is Shot skit?
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:22 am quote
We’ve all heard the news, at this point.

Keep it clean folks.

Not doing so gets you bounced or better.

Just a reminder.

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Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:23 am quote
Knock knock.

Who is it?

Landshark!
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:59 am quote
Re: Trump has Covid
Miguel wrote:
This changes everything. Stay calm and carry on.

Miguel
It certainly does, no matter which way you look at it. Ride's going to get bumpier.
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:20 am quote
swiss1939 wrote:
Knock knock.

Who is it?

Landshark!
Is the Landshark wearing a mask? If not no way I’m letting him in even if he says he has an important telegram.
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:42 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
swiss1939 wrote:
Knock knock.

Who is it?

Landshark!
Is the Landshark wearing a mask? If not no way I’m letting him in even if he says he has an important telegram.
Plumber?
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 pm quote
Oh the irony of it... ;D

Trump tests Corona positive on China's National Day.
They have a national holiday until 8th October.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:20 pm quote
There are so many new cases now in the US that can be classified as avoidable. It's sad and disappointing to see this. If people wear face masks, keep their distance and use sanitizer when appropriate, they seem to have a fairly low risk of contracting this.
If someone has a link to more than one case (there's always that one guy, right? Then footage shows up of him licking the bins behind a hospital, sort of like my friend who (briefly) convinced his (now ex-) wife he got chlamydia from a toilet in a bar.) about someone who took protective measures, didn't have kids who go to school, and still got it, please post it.

Here is something I posted on another forum on April 20 of this year. From what I know about how they are treating people who self identify as a stable genius, it appears they have come a long way with antibodies.

"Stating that we are close to a cure implies that we are close to a point where this virus won’t kill people and impact society like it does now. There are a couple of things that could be considered a cure. One is a vaccine, that would prevent people from becoming infected, and the other is a treatment protocol that cures someone who is infected. I think we are at least a couple of years away from a viable vaccine. But while we are waiting for a vaccine, there is also research to develop antibody treatment protocols, much like is done for rabies or ebola. This might happen sooner than a vaccine, should be relatively inexpensive, and,if administered in time to infected patients, highly effective. I think the survival rate for Ebola with this treatment is about 95% now. So that might buy more time to properly develop a vaccine."
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:55 pm quote
The 'experimental' antibody treatment has been used in the UK for some time, apparently. For those who have adverse morbidity prognoses.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:15 pm quote
They grow the antibodies used in the US in giant vats of hamster ovary cells, and it seems to be a lot of work collecting a sufficient number of them to treat everybody.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:06 pm quote
Not sure if I pointed this out on this forum or another when conjecturing a few months ago, but it seems to have come true already. And I think it is important for people to think about this...

US involvement in WWII (Worst war in history)
Dec 8 1941 - Sept 2 1945 ( 3 years 8 months 25 days)
Total US Deaths: 419,400

US Timeline of COVID Deaths (no worse than the flu)
Feb 6 2020 - Oct 4 2020 (7 months 28 days)
Total US Deaths: 209,382

Almost exactly 50% of all US deaths from approx. 4 years of the worst war in history.. in less than 8 months (most of those closer to 6 month timeframe) of something some people say is "no worse than the flu".

Ponder that.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:05 pm quote
"In just 36 days of combat, 25,851 Americans, fully one-third of the assault forces, had become casualties. Of those, 6,821 were killed, died of wounds, or were missing in action. One historian later described the American attack at Iwo Jima as “throwing human flesh against reinforced concrete.”

(Source: https://nationalinterest.org/)

6821 / 36 = 189 deaths per day.

At 06:00 GMT on Oct 4th 2020
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

US deaths = 214 277
Oct 4 - Feb 6 = 241 days
Daily average = 889 deaths
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:16 pm quote
Or if it takes a war many have a more personal connection to in the USA.

US Deaths - Vietnam War (1964-1975)
47,434 in 11 years.

US Deaths - COVID
209,382 in 6-8 months.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:20 pm quote
Fudmucker wrote:
"In just 36 days of combat, 25,851 Americans, fully one-third of the assault forces, had become casualties. Of those, 6,821 were killed, died of wounds, or were missing in action. One historian later described the American attack at Iwo Jima as “throwing human flesh against reinforced concrete.”

(Source: https://nationalinterest.org/)

6821 / 36 = 189 deaths per day.

At 06:00 GMT on Oct 4th 2020
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

US deaths = 214 277
Oct 4 - Feb 6 = 241 days
Daily average = 889 deaths
That doesn't include the massive number of worldwide deaths attributable to cases exported from the USA.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:28 pm quote
I was only comparing US deaths from the virus against US combat deaths in one of the most horrific battles of WW2.
Older people would likely have known somebody who died on Iwo Jima, generally described as "36 days of Hell.'

What will the 241 days be called by future historians?

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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:29 pm quote
Motovista wrote:
There are so many new cases now in the US that can be classified as avoidable. It's sad and disappointing to see this. If people wear face masks, keep their distance and use sanitizer when appropriate, they seem to have a fairly low risk of contracting this.
If someone has a link to more than one case (there's always that one guy, right? Then footage shows up of him licking the bins behind a hospital, sort of like my friend who (briefly) convinced his (now ex-) wife he got chlamydia from a toilet in a bar.) about someone who took protective measures, didn't have kids who go to school, and still got it, please post it.

Here is something I posted on another forum on April 20 of this year. From what I know about how they are treating people who self identify as a stable genius, it appears they have come a long way with antibodies.

"Stating that we are close to a cure implies that we are close to a point where this virus won’t kill people and impact society like it does now. There are a couple of things that could be considered a cure. One is a vaccine, that would prevent people from becoming infected, and the other is a treatment protocol that cures someone who is infected. I think we are at least a couple of years away from a viable vaccine. But while we are waiting for a vaccine, there is also research to develop antibody treatment protocols, much like is done for rabies or ebola. This might happen sooner than a vaccine, should be relatively inexpensive, and,if administered in time to infected patients, highly effective. I think the survival rate for Ebola with this treatment is about 95% now. So that might buy more time to properly develop a vaccine."
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:24 pm quote
I went to my GP on Monday to have some skin tags removed.
We talked about the wearing of masks and how this year there have been almost zero cases of influenza or colds at all winter.

Social distancing, wearing masks and washing hands does prevent transmission.
The Asian countries have shown that for years and now we can all practice it during 'flu season.

Got a sniffle?
Wear a mask.
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:31 pm quote
... in Italy the situation is rapidly worsening ...

http://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/homeNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=english
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:53 pm quote
Sorry to hear that!
It seems that Europe is heading for a second round.

In South Africa we seem to have done better than the health authorities expected.
But they are still concerned about a second round as well this summer.
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:14 pm quote
Interesting snippet that the White House has more active coronavirus cases than the whole of New Zealand. Go NZ!
It's shaping up to be a tough old winter in the northern hemisphere. But as has been pointed out, masks and social distancing may reduce the usual winter load of respiratory infections so health services are less likely to be overwhelmed.
Stay safe people.
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:22 pm quote
In Italy the fines for those who do not wear the mask are back, from € 400 to € 1000 even outdoors.
Even children wear it, it's sad to see this but also necessary ... "I would have liked to die rather than live in the silent shadow of death", quote.
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Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:07 am quote
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Interesting snippet that the White House has more active coronavirus cases than the whole of New Zealand. Go NZ!
Actually we have 39 active cases in NZ today, all in managed isolation. The White House has reported 34 free range cases.

We haven't had any community cases for over two weeks, have done contact tracing on them and their contacts contacts too. The boffins consider it very likely that the last outbreak has been contained.

We're rolling into summer here.
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Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 am quote
Znomit, thanks for that, my info must now be a little out of date.
Just a few dozen cases in a population of pushing 5 million is good going- hopefully they will remain low for you.
Cases in the UK sadly on a upward trend at just the wrong time of year. Some has been driven by universities going back, fortunately the young seem to suffer usually mild symptoms- the great unknown is how much transmission they cause in the wider community. Our promised 'world-beating' track and trace is currently anything but world-beating, so community asymptomatic transmission figures are best estimates.
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Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:45 am quote
As the saying goes " When the US Sneezes, Canada Catches Cold " . Our numbers are going up as well and I've noticed in many things Toronto is a mini NYC . We have similar neighbourhoods, population density, weather and restaurants/bars etc. We also got hit early as both cities are the financial capitals of their respective countries so lots of international travel. I hope both of us get through the second wave without too much damage. NYC is starting to shutdown certain areas again and our health experts want us to. I'm back to maybe not being afraid to go out I'm way more careful and would not even think about dining inside. So many of the breakouts can be tracked to that and 3 restaurants in my neighbourhood have been shutdown, all a short walk from me ( https://nowtoronto.com/news/marbl-king-taps-and-casa-mezcal-king-west-ordered-to-close ) .

It's going to be a long winter up north and we just have to hunker down , be safe, wear the damn masks and wait for a vaccine. I feel bad for the restaurants, bars and theatres. The fact is they have to shutdown indoor dining and yes, many will not make it. The industries will have to rise from the ashes and they will over time. As far as the downtown core and people wanting to move away. Already many businesses are finding remote work is OK but want people back when this is over . It's been an interesting real world test and things will never be the same but will go back to "normal" more than many think once this is over .
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:15 am quote
I was glancing at the world stats this morning.
South America is really catching the virus at the moment in terms of deaths per 1M population.
Belgium is still high on the list too, but I can't reason why.
Similarly Spain and Andorra are copping it, but Portugal is way lower.

Weird virus this...!

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Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:22 am quote
Our index has risen to 1.3 ... if it gets to 1.5 and passes it we will return to lockdown except for manufacturing activities.

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Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:18 am quote
I guess the White House is so empty now that racoons are taking over. This isn't political, just funny.

https://youtu.be/H-Jw-1rzf0w
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:24 am quote
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Weird virus this...!
It is not the virus that is strange but who collects the data and how they do it.
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:53 am quote
Attila wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Weird virus this...!
It is not the virus that is strange but who collects the data and how they do it.
Yes, one thing about statistics is you can bend them to prove anything you want as long as the person reading them is not able to think for themselves!
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:13 am quote
kshansen wrote:
Attila wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Weird virus this...!
It is not the virus that is strange but who collects the data and how they do it.
Yes, one thing about statistics is you can bend them to prove anything you want as long as the person reading them is not able to think for themselves!
Also why it’s one of the hardest courses to pass in college.
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:59 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
kshansen wrote:
Attila wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Weird virus this...!
It is not the virus that is strange but who collects the data and how they do it.
Yes, one thing about statistics is you can bend them to prove anything you want as long as the person reading them is not able to think for themselves!
Also why it’s one of the hardest courses to pass in college.
... for those who did college ...
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