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Molto Verboso
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Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:04 pm quote
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
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Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:12 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Not to be critical, but I sorta wonder if there's another name for this strain?
Reason I ask is, well, COVID-19 has another name that references the 'apparent' origin site....

I'm trying, sincerely, to be circumspect for respectful reasons....

Sorry about the masks thing though; any time I go in to my work office I have to wear a mask 100% of the time. There are maybe 2 people within 100 feet of me.
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Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:08 pm quote
'UK strain' is fine. That's where is was first discovered. Of course, it may have originated somewhere else, but the UK monitoring of the virus is very comprehensive.

For the computer nerds here, here's an interesting article!
https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/

as found here:
https://www.revk.uk/2020/12/bnt162b2-pfizer-covid-vaccine.html

tltr: QR version of the vaccine code:
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Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:18 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Now I知 scared.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:36 am quote
znomit wrote:
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Now I知 scared.
Fear keeps you alive.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:09 am quote
Madison Sully wrote:
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Not to be critical, but I sorta wonder if there's another name for this strain?
Reason I ask is, well, COVID-19 has another name that references the 'apparent' origin site....
B.1.1.7

which sorta sounds like a Flying Fortress
Molto Verboso
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:41 am quote
Attila wrote:
znomit wrote:
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Now I知 scared.
Fear keeps you alive.
...and prevents you from living to the full ?

I am NOT saying that one should ignore risk-abatement measures (masks, sanitising, social distancing, avoiding crowds and travelling to infection hot-spots, etc.)

What I AM saying is that Life is a terminal condition.
If you fear every means that terminates life, you will not LIVE !

Whenever somebody calls me out on how dangerous motorcycles are,
I ask them if they sleep in a bed. "Yes... why?"
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:23 am quote
Fudmucker wrote:
Attila wrote:
znomit wrote:
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Now I知 scared.
Fear keeps you alive.
...and prevents you from living to the full ?

I am NOT saying that one should ignore risk-abatement measures (masks, sanitising, social distancing, avoiding crowds and travelling to infection hot-spots, etc.)

What I AM saying is that Life is a terminal condition.
If you fear every means that terminates life, you will not LIVE !

Whenever somebody calls me out on how dangerous motorcycles are,
I ask them if they sleep in a bed. "Yes... why?"
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
Not to point out the obvious, we all are going to die. I would just prefer not to die suffocating in my own lung fluids on a vent.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:54 am quote
Greetings:

Quoth Fudmucker:
Quote:
Whenever somebody calls me out on how dangerous motorcycles are,
I ask them if they sleep in a bed. "Yes... why?"
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
Best line ever, Fud!
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:09 am quote
Fudmucker wrote:
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
Hey, that was my grandfather's motivation for getting up every morning!
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:23 am quote
Fudmucker wrote:
Attila wrote:
znomit wrote:
Sledge wrote:
The UK strain has escaped quarantine in Brisbane. The lockdown begins with mandatory masks away from home.
Now I知 scared.
Fear keeps you alive.
...and prevents you from living to the full ?

I am NOT saying that one should ignore risk-abatement measures (masks, sanitising, social distancing, avoiding crowds and travelling to infection hot-spots, etc.)

What I AM saying is that Life is a terminal condition.
If you fear every means that terminates life, you will not LIVE !

Whenever somebody calls me out on how dangerous motorcycles are,
I ask them if they sleep in a bed. "Yes... why?"
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
Fear is an elastic concept Fud, you can also understand it as a feeling of aversion to something indefinite and not necessarily as terror; prudence is instead too little in the case of covid, it implies a minimum of precautions that may not be sufficient. Driving can be used as the term "risk but with caution" but in the case of the virus we are not talking about calculated risk, it is not the same, the comparison does not hold up.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:28 am quote
fledermaus wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
"Do you know how many people DIE in a bed?"
Hey, that was my grandfather's motivation for getting up every morning!
The same thing I say to my mother every time I go out with my scooter and especially now, with the subject moved: scooter = bed.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:40 am quote
froggieposition wrote:
Not to point out the obvious, we all are going to die. I would just prefer not to die suffocating in my own lung fluids on a vent.
Neither would I, mio amico.
Being shot in flagrante delicto by a jealous husband is a far more exciting way to go...

There is a balance in life between risk and reward.
I will exercise caution.
I will minimise risk.
I will not fear Life.


BTW A pulmonologist in South Africa has been achieving increasing success doing bronchoscopies on patients with Covid by "vacuuming' out clogged lungs to improve breathing. Very brave steps to take working with highly infectious patients...!

edited to correct attribution - jimc

Thanx
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:56 am quote
President Cyril Ramaphosa is having a "family chat" with the nation at the moment...

Until 15 Feb:
No alcohol sales and no on-site liquor consumption - to reduce trauma cases in A+E departments.
(Sadly it means many restaurants will be uneconomical to continue business and will close with permanent job losses.)

Masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds + confined spaces...
more of the same to continue.

Funerals identified as "super-spreader" events and now may not exceed 50 persons - with masks and social distancing.

Recreational spaces are closed to the public - sea, lakes, rivers, lagoons, parks, swimming baths.

Workplaces continue with masks, sanitising and social distancing.

Fun just became illegal.

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Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:07 pm quote
just great. some gorillas in San Diego zoo just caught the 'Rona... what a way to start Jan 2021
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:17 pm quote
tonyc wrote:
just great. some gorillas in San Diego zoo just caught the 'Rona... what a way to start Jan 2021
They will have to ape what the rest of us are doing, masks , social distancing and panic buy toilet paper.
But seriously more awful news. Seems that the virus came from one of the care team who was asymptomatic but was using a mask .
All we need now is to have a Guerilla strain, on top of the UK and SA ones.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:21 am quote
Would it be a good time to go for gold in the Australian Outback and do some kind of spiritual retreat ..?
Molto Verboso
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:26 am quote
Just to stay sane in the face of adversity, how about some lighthearted Covid name-calling...?

UK Strain = "London Leisure"
ZA Strain = "Durban Downtime"
OZ strain = "Outback Layback"
Gorilla Strain = "Silverback Slack-off"

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Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:49 am quote
Attila wrote:
Would it be a good time to go for gold in the Australian Outback and do some kind of spiritual retreat ..?
There are worse things than Covid in the outback. Eg Snakes, spiders, dingoes, underarm bowlers.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:26 am quote
znomit wrote:
Attila wrote:
Would it be a good time to go for gold in the Australian Outback and do some kind of spiritual retreat ..?
There are worse things than Covid in the outback. Eg Snakes, spiders, dingoes, underarm bowlers.
But those are not invisible ...
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:37 am quote
znomit wrote:
Attila wrote:
Would it be a good time to go for gold in the Australian Outback and do some kind of spiritual retreat ..?
There are worse things than Covid in the outback. Eg Snakes, spiders, dingoes, underarm bowlers.
Feral camels, rabbits and cats...
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:26 pm quote
House prices in regional areas have skyrocketed as people swap European holidays for new homes, and to get away from city crowds in a sea change.
As real estate value increases, so does the rent.
There is less supply as people who normally lease out their homes for the summer are not doing so due to the pandemic. Many are struggling to find a place to live as rental vacancies hit zero, with some families living in cars and tents.
Molto Verboso
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:58 pm quote
I came across this interesting site.
Compare COVID-19 deaths with other causes for your own country...
(select the country in the centre of the screen)


https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/selected-deaths-vs-covid-19-united-states
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:13 am quote
Dallas County reported a record number of new cases yesterday: 3549, with 14 deaths.

Current ICU occupancy is over 97%. As best as I can tell, there are about 25 ICU beds available in the entire county. We have a population of about 2.6 million.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:06 am quote
Looks like I've been bumped to (near) the front of the vaccine line. I think a combination of being a health care provider and 65 did the job. I'd been saying I didn't mind waiting further back to see how things pan out, but in the interest of my wife's concerns, and, well, my own (working by necessity in close proximity to people doesn't help risks), I'll go with it.

It would be nice to be able to return to life as usual, but not quite...and even though 95% effectiveness is darn good, I'd still have a 1:20 chance of getting sick. But at least I can relax more behind my mask, and my family as well.

Not sure exactly when I actually get it, but things are happening.... hopefully sooner than later for the rest of everyone.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:16 am quote
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sadly, I see that at the current trend, the US is going to reach 400k deaths before 20th January.

No further comment.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:08 am quote
Fudmucker wrote:
Just to stay sane in the face of adversity, how about some lighthearted Covid name-calling...?

UK Strain = "London Leisure"
ZA Strain = "Durban Downtime"
OZ strain = "Outback Layback"
Gorilla Strain = "Silverback Slack-off"

Italy = Spaghetti Strainer
Brazil = Samba Strain
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:53 am quote
Sledge wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Just to stay sane in the face of adversity, how about some lighthearted Covid name-calling...?

UK Strain = "London Leisure"
ZA Strain = "Durban Downtime"
OZ strain = "Outback Layback"
Gorilla Strain = "Silverback Slack-off"

Italy = Spaghetti Strainer
Brazil = Samba Strain
London Culling
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:45 am quote
fleece wrote:
Sledge wrote:
Fudmucker wrote:
Just to stay sane in the face of adversity, how about some lighthearted Covid name-calling...?

UK Strain = "London Leisure"
ZA Strain = "Durban Downtime"
OZ strain = "Outback Layback"
Gorilla Strain = "Silverback Slack-off"

Italy = Spaghetti Strainer
Brazil = Samba Strain
London Culling
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holdin' out and draw another breath
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:52 am quote
... I think we're going crazy ...
Where did you find "spaghetti strainer" ..?
From here you understand that we have no idea how italians really are in these situations.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:08 am quote
monogodo wrote:
Dallas County reported a record number of new cases yesterday: 3549, with 14 deaths.

Current ICU occupancy is over 97%. As best as I can tell, there are about 25 ICU beds available in the entire county. We have a population of about 2.6 million.
That's a useless factoid without perspective. It is quite likely that is not far from normal for this time of year, which is "flu season". What was occupancy in mid-January 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016?

Hospitals don't build tons of excess ICU capacity, it is expensive as Hades.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:51 am quote
JimR_ATL wrote:
monogodo wrote:
Dallas County reported a record number of new cases yesterday: 3549, with 14 deaths.

Current ICU occupancy is over 97%. As best as I can tell, there are about 25 ICU beds available in the entire county. We have a population of about 2.6 million.
That's a useless factoid without perspective. It is quite likely that is not far from normal for this time of year, which is "flu season". What was occupancy in mid-January 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016?

Hospitals don't build tons of excess ICU capacity, it is expensive as Hades.
https://www.kiiitv.com/mobile/article/news/verify/verify-what-capacity-are-arizona-hospitals-icus-usually-at-covid-19-bed-and-staffing-shortages-this-season-are-abnormal-compared-to-previous-years/75-8f5f96bf-99eb-45eb-9808-de3957c1e23b
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:39 am quote
JimR_ATL wrote:
monogodo wrote:
Dallas County reported a record number of new cases yesterday: 3549, with 14 deaths.

Current ICU occupancy is over 97%. As best as I can tell, there are about 25 ICU beds available in the entire county. We have a population of about 2.6 million.
That's a useless factoid without perspective. It is quite likely that is not far from normal for this time of year, which is "flu season". What was occupancy in mid-January 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016?

Hospitals don't build tons of excess ICU capacity, it is expensive as Hades.
From Covid Act Now:
Quote:
Dallas County, Texas has reported having 713 staffed adult ICU beds. 373 are filled by non-COVID patients and 316 are filled by COVID patients. Overall, 689 out of 713 (97%) are filled.
From D Magazine - Dallas Dwindling ICU Capacity Is 膳ery Serious (December 20, 2020):
Quote:
Of the 25 hospitals around central Dallas, hospital ICUs are 96 percent full. The map says that Baylor University Medical Center, Presbyterian Hospital, City Hospital at White Rock, and several others are 100 percent full. Though hospitals can expand and contract capacity for beds, staffing can稚 be expanded so quickly.
and
Quote:
Some perspective: more Americans are dying every 1.5 days from COVID-19 than died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which claimed 2,988 lives. This is the equivalent of 15 Airbus 320 Jetliners, with 150 passengers each, crashing every day, the JAMA research says. COVID-19 has become the leading cause of death in the country, surpassing heart disease, and cancer, which cause 1,700 and 1,600 deaths per day, respectively. These deaths are most likely underreported. Data delays and miscoding could mean that the total number of deaths is up to 20 percent higher, research shows.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:48 am quote
monogodo my guess is he is just trolling. We can throw all sorts of FACTS at him but it's doubtful opinions will be changed. There is no crazy mass lying going on at hospitals and long term care homes. The numbers and percentages speak for themselves and no, not every death is just being lumped in to Covid-19 statistics for "reasons"
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 am quote
I read of a very poignant and thought-provoking FB post regarding COVID deaths...

"For a while it was just numbers.
Then it became names.
Now the names are people we know ! "
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:21 pm quote
JimR_ATL wrote:
That's a useless factoid without perspective. It is quite likely that is not far from normal for this time of year, which is "flu season". What was occupancy in mid-January 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016?

Hospitals don't build tons of excess ICU capacity, it is expensive as Hades.
If you look into it a bit, you will find this has been the lightest winter flu season in many years. The CDC attributes that to an effect of various covid measures - distancing, masks, handwashing, etc.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:39 pm quote
Another use for the curry/covid hook, also the Pet carrier is now the PPE carrier.

IMG_20210116_100018404.jpg

Molto Verboso
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:20 pm quote
That will help dry them out after washing...
or coughing.


Back in South Africa...

The Western Cape province is battling a very high rise in COVID cases and has been identified as a 'hot-spot' with additional restrictions.
The SA Police Service resort under a National level Minister.
Somebody in SAPS authorised the use of water-cannon to forcibly disperse a crowd that had gathered in contravention of the current COVID regulations.

Sounds reasonable?

The "crowd" was the queue at the SA Social Services Agency (SASSA) to receive Social Grants - i.e. welfare assistance payments !
Older disabled persons in wheelchairs and walking aids were fire-hosed...?

SASSA requires beneficiaries to appear in person to collect grants so that they can prove they are alive. If you leave the queue, you lose your place and likely cannot collect that day.

Just the facts.
I can't comment or I may fall foul of the "no politics' rule.
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:59 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
Another use for the curry/covid hook, also the Pet carrier is now the PPE carrier.
I've done that. Tends to flap about a bit, but for short low-speed hops (which is pretty much all I do these days) it's acceptable.
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:29 am quote
Dooglas wrote:
JimR_ATL wrote:
That's a useless factoid without perspective. It is quite likely that is not far from normal for this time of year, which is "flu season". What was occupancy in mid-January 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016?

Hospitals don't build tons of excess ICU capacity, it is expensive as Hades.
If you look into it a bit, you will find this has been the lightest winter flu season in many years. The CDC attributes that to an effect of various covid measures - distancing, masks, handwashing, etc.
The same over here, for the same reasons. Hardly any seasonal influenza cases compared to the normal cycle.
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