Tucano Urbano Termoscud R170 Repair
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:21 pm quote
Hey, does anyone know how to remove the inflatable chambers in the newer R170s? There is a new valve setup that does not work with the directions in the usual repair videos online. It is black and red, and has a twist top element to it.

I would be eternally grateful for any advice.
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:42 pm quote
Go buy pool noodles from Big 5, cut to length that you need.
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:18 am quote
alloo wrote:
Go buy pool noodles from Big 5, cut to length that you need.
Problem with that is you then can't deflate the air bladders and roll the leg cover up when you are out riding and it gets warm.
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:53 am quote
I have to re-inflate mine every time I ride. The air is gone after about four hours. Both sides. Must be pinhole leaks as a result of decay. Perhaps the apron is a wear out item and has to be tossed every four or five years if you want them to hold the air. Less expensive than tires...
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:40 am quote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
I have to re-inflate mine every time I ride. The air is gone after about four hours. Both sides. Must be pinhole leaks as a result of decay. Perhaps the apron is a wear out item and has to be tossed every four or five years if you want them to hold the air. Less expensive than tires...
Get a vinyl pool repair kit. Works great to patch any pin holes. Have a patch on each side of the one on my MP3.
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:51 am quote
I've just given up and don't inflate them. It really isn't that bad when they are deflated. I'd buy replacements but our Piaggio dealer doesn't seem to keep them in stock and I can't find a good source online in Canada to order them that includes the import duty. I really do not like ordering anything online when I know I may get dinged by customs.
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:52 am quote
Took 15 minute to pull out and patch.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:37 am quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
alloo wrote:
Go buy pool noodles from Big 5, cut to length that you need.
Problem with that is you then can't deflate the air bladders and roll the leg cover up when you are out riding and it gets warm.
Cut them and take them out, if you need to. It's cheaper than buying new replacement bladders and more reliable.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:05 am quote
alloo wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
alloo wrote:
Go buy pool noodles from Big 5, cut to length that you need.
Problem with that is you then can't deflate the air bladders and roll the leg cover up when you are out riding and it gets warm.
Cut them and take them out, if you need to. It's cheaper than buying new replacement bladders and more reliable.
So you are 100 miles from home, you just throw them in the trash and buy new noddles?? OR you can get a Vinyl repair kit for $5 and fix the hole
Took me about 10 ten minutes, including the time to find the leak.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:01 am quote
It looks like you have this situation well in hand. I'll just add, for future reference, there's a place in Minneapolis, Repair Lair (repairlair.com), that specializes in repairing camping and sporting gear, etc. They or a similar sporting goods store could be a good place to get Termoscuds, bags, jackets and other scooter stuff repaired.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:21 am quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
I have to re-inflate mine every time I ride. The air is gone after about four hours. Both sides. Must be pinhole leaks as a result of decay. Perhaps the apron is a wear out item and has to be tossed every four or five years if you want them to hold the air. Less expensive than tires...
Get a vinyl pool repair kit. Works great to patch any pin holes. Have a patch on each side of the one on my MP3.
Totally agree. When I got mine the right side bladder would deflate. I finally bit the bullet, extracted the bladder, found the leak, patched it. That was 4-5 years ago and I have since then inflated the bladders once a season.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:07 pm quote
New bladders are about $10.
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Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:23 am quote
Motovista wrote:
New bladders are about $10.
Hell less than noodles.
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Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:08 am quote
Motovista wrote:
New bladders are about $10.
Thanks Motovista.

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Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:58 pm quote
There's also a 620 and an 820mm. I don't remember which size, but one of them was on backorder at TU for more than a year. An Italian company bought TU and I think they are the ones who have made some of the improvements as far as the valve to inflate the air bag, etc.
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