Group Riding/Solo Riding/Riding with a Few Friends
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Molto Verboso
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2007 Burgman 400
Joined: 30 Mar 2014
Posts: 1604
Location: Minneapolis USA
Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:31 pm quote
I was wondering what type of riding you like to do?

I am fortunate to have a solid riding group (Minn-Max Scooters of Minnesota)
and enjoy the great camaraderie. There are limitations for group riding expediency like not being able to stop at every scenic or interesting moment.
As a positive, I would not have visited or passed through so many great scenic and out of the way places if I had not joined this riding group.

My group riding seems to now dominate my two wheeling. Not all bad - I really enjoy it. Additionally, our crappy short riding season here in Frost Bite Falls Minnesota limits the time to hit the adventure trail.

What Say You.

Bob Copeland

My Group on a Day Ride

2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 4135
Location: Santa Cruz California
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:30 pm quote
I'm exclusively a ride solo to maximize my time in the saddle. I don't end up waiting for others to gas up, be late, etc. And there's no debate on the route! I also enjoy the solitude. I wish I had more time and patience to do some group rides but such is life at the moment. 😎

Benelli TNT 125/Kymco AK550 I don't care. You can quote me.
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: South East Great England of Britishland
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm quote
Solo. Long and as fast as possible.

A bit like my sex life.


Bill x

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2012 Kymco Like 200i (Sold), 2018 FLSL
Joined: 04 Jun 2012
Posts: 2627
Location: San Jose, CA
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:20 pm quote
Solo rider here as well. I occasionally hook up with a few friend, but they ride sports bikes and I a cruiser. Doesn’t make for an enjoyable riding experience. I have found riding with one other rider connected by a communicator works okay, but nothing like the enjoyment I get while riding solo
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 8951
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:21 pm quote
I think I'm all over the map. I do enjoy some of the larger rides, such as at AV, though probably it's as much about the socializing around the riding, rather than the riding itself. There is a certain charm to be part of a group, and I love looking up ahead and seeing the lines of scooters weaving around curves and going over hills.

On the other hand, smaller groups are a lot easier to deal with logistically...stop signs, refreshments, fueling, and it's nice to have the camaraderie that a small group can offer. On a longer trip, it's also comforting to have someone around to help you deal with any issues, mechanical or otherwise. Haven't had any to date, but I don't enjoy thinking about being stranded an hour away from anywhere.....

I've ridden solo too, and enjoy the peacefulness and total control it provides....

Never a reason not to ride!!
2014 Commuter BV350(43,000)/2015 Scoot Life BV350(10,000)/2010 El Diablito SH150i(29,000)
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2328
Location: Orange Park Florida
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:43 pm quote
Solo. I commute, store runs and scout to lessen the need to drive the cage. I don't ride for pleasure, I ride for my sanity. Traffic sucks, being in a constant heightened state of awareness isn't pleasurable. For pleasure, I like scooter maintenance (customizing and modifying)and I have a boat.
2009 GTS 250ie
Joined: 24 Mar 2018
Posts: 602
Location: south Texas
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:00 pm quote
My Honey and I are riding partners. We have been riding together for just about 50 years now. She is a great rider, and we know what to expect from each other. Her scoot is a bit faster than mine, but that isn't a problem - we rarely race each other. I ride solo more than she does. Over those years, we have ridden with groups (Harley Owners Group, Goldwing Road Riders Association), but we both prefer the riding with just the two of us.

'81 P200E, '80 P200E, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
Joined: 27 Mar 2014
Posts: 187
Location: Tucson, AZ
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:10 pm quote
Mixed bag here.

I commute solo. I've also done a few longish rides solo and been OK with that too.

I participate in club rides and scooter tours with friends. Those rides are more fun if I'm not leading them or acting as a road guard. Of the group riding duties, I enjoy riding sweep the most.
GTS 300
Joined: 03 Jul 2019
Posts: 227
Location: lewisville , nc. 27023
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:21 pm quote
I have ridden with large groups a few times, decided it was not for me.

If I show up for a group ride and it's more than 5 or 6, I find some reason to not go.

Since I was off a bike for a bit recovering , several of the guy's I regularly rode with either aged out, or just lost interest in riding . That's ok as far as I'm concerned.

Lately it's usually 2 or 3 of us and so far our rides have not been all that long. Usually a lunch run or a short ride to the park to kick tires.

I am planning on a couple longer rides and at least a few that will be for several day's. Since my wife is no longer comfortable with me riding alone for any length of time, I'm currently pick up truck shopping.
That way I can haul my scooter to the destination and spend more time enjoying being with other riders when I get there.
2019 Honda - The Monkey
Joined: 05 Aug 2012
Posts: 554
Location: Somerset England
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:03 am quote
I ride alone as I spend a lot of time on quiet roads bimbling along.

If I come to a fork in the road then it's my decision whether I turn left or right.

I no longer use a sat nav nor carry a map, it's all part of the adventure.

Aprilia Scarabeo 500
Joined: 02 Oct 2019
Posts: 100
Location: Florida
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:47 am quote
I'm a mixed bag of nuts on this one. I ride to work everyday solo, but if I am going for a leisure ride, I'd like to ride with a buddy or two. Don't know very many people in my area with scoots. Just a couple close friends and that's about it.
2007 GT200, 2008 Yamaha C3
Joined: 27 Jul 2012
Posts: 554
Location: Denver
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:25 am quote
Most things in life are better with a friend or two.

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Molto Verboso
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2007 Burgman 400
Joined: 30 Mar 2014
Posts: 1604
Location: Minneapolis USA
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:21 am quote
Group Riding/Solo Riding/Riding with a Few Friends
My riding group plans a scheduled ride monthly. We get between 9 and 15
attendees each month. Then, riders in the group, schedule pick-up rides at other times. Half the group is retired. They can call pick-up rides during the work week and head out when the weather is great.

Great input by everyone - I get the appeal for solo. As already posted, I do
enjoy the adventure more with a few friends.

On the larger group rides, we break into small group flights of 5 or less.
The following flights will wait a few minutes between each leaving. We then
only ride for an hour before reassembling at the subsequent gas/rest/lunch stops. The smaller groups in the larger rides are for safety.

I work both ends of the street. I ride my Vespa with the in town smaller
scoot crowd (aka Hecky's Angels, Scooter Collective) and ride my Burgman
with the larger scoot crowd (Minn-Max Scooters of Minnesota).

Wow, I guess I am hooked on group riding.

Bob Copeland
Frost Bite Falls Minnesota
12 below zero Today - 50 below Wind Chill in Northern Minn

Riding with Scooter Collective

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Lx 50 4T, GTS 250, Something Chinese
Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Posts: 7709
Location: KS USA
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:19 pm quote
This looks likes an invasion of scooters or something.
2013 GTS300ie
Joined: 12 Dec 2017
Posts: 577
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:14 pm quote
I agree with Bob.
Most of my riding is solo for chores etc.
When I ride socially, I prefer company and we ride in groups of 3-6.

But there is nothing like longer rides (touring) where the groups gets as many at 20 or so. You have a ride leader who decides the route and does the navigation. Then you have a sweep at the back who leaves 5-10 minutes after. Everyone rides in between - on their own, in twos and threes or mores. You have the freedom to stop for a photo opportunity or a smoke or just to chat to a friend about something you see.

The whole idea is to "ride your own ride" at a pace that suits your abilities and preferences. The lead and sweep are for group backup support and safety - particularly for our lady riders. I enjoy riding sweep and I rode lead for many years with my BMW Club.
2020 GTS HPE 300, 2013 GTS 300ie
Joined: 23 Nov 2019
Posts: 124
Location: San Diego
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:28 pm quote
Been riding alone. Husband just got his scoot so we'll be riding together soon, and hope to ride with a local group eventually
Molto Verboso
Xmax 300
Joined: 02 Jul 2016
Posts: 1406
Location: Adelaide
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:12 pm quote
It's funny. I ride solo. But when I see another rider I will make an effort to ride with that person. Maybe it's a camaraderie or safety in numbers thing.
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 4135
Location: Santa Cruz California
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:32 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
It's funny. I ride solo. But when I see another rider I will make an effort to ride with that person. Maybe it's a camaraderie or safety in numbers thing.
I sorta do that same thing. I always equate it with power in numbers and being seen.

Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2148
Location: Finland
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:17 pm quote
Mixed here too.

It's a bit like doing various sport activities that all include a ball: a game of tennis here, a big football match there.

I do like to ride solo. For me it is mostly because I like to stop often, where as many riders I know prefer to max. the saddle time. Also because of the total freedom to choose my direction and speed. Mayby because I'm born in a country where we have lots of empty space, or actually thick forests, that a tought of getting stranded alone does not feel like a major issue to me. I'll just sing loudly to keep the bears away...

Also like to ride with a buddy, or max. a few. Mostly because of the chat at the breaks. I do feel myself a bit limited having to adjust with some else's pace.

I very seldom do large group rides. If, only for short distances, like with scoots we sometimes cruised across the town after a meet. I prefer meets, where bikers gather together to have a chat, but arrive and leave solo.
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody)
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
Posts: 2400
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:15 pm quote
You're going to make me choose?
I dig it solo. I dig it with companions. Or one companion. Sometimes it depends on the day, or time of year. I will say that the more chances I ge two ride, the more chances I want to get to ride.

Alone, back in Brooklyn...

…and with the Jersey Shore Chaos Crew S.C.

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 11037
Location: Oregon City, OR
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:03 am quote
I have tried group rides a couple of times and really disliked them. There are always others whose riding style and pace differs substantially from your own. I ride quite a bit by myself, but I do enjoy riding with 1 or 2 friends. We already know each others capabilities and preferences. The best surprise is no surprise.
2016 Sprint S 150 (his), 2016 Sprint 150 Blu Gaiola (hers), 2006 GTS 250 Excalibur Gray (hers), 2006 GTS 250 Black (his), 2012 Kymco Downtown 200
Joined: 21 Oct 2016
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Location: Vermont
Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:49 am quote
Since my wife and I live in an area basically devoid of scooters, we ride together. I also tend to ride more solo than she does for errands and any opportunity to travel for work on a scooter.

We do have a friend that we will ride with. He was on a 80's vintage BMW R80 but after me always expounding on the virtues of a scooter, he bought a used Aprilia Atlantic 500 and absolutely loves it. So a group ride is 3 of us.

If there were more scooters here or we lived in an area where there were more or a club, I am sure we would participate in the group rides.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Modded Vespa 2017 GTV 300, BMW 2017 C650GT, Ural 2019 Gear Up
Joined: 21 May 2017
Posts: 6241
Location: Downtown Toronto
Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:39 am quote
Like others I ride for chores and as a mode of transportation no matter what the weather. I try to avoid the subway and streetcare etc. So I ride a LOT.

That being said I'm a lone wolf and prefer my own company for the most part. The few times I have done group rides... Meh. Even back in the day when my SC would go to rallys I'd go on ahead of them. For those that enjoy comraderie and doing things in groups I totaly get that and realize I'm the strange one. People are constantly trying to invite me to things and usually I try to politely avoid it.

One other thing about group riding is often some of the riders really suck. Weekend warriors don't really make for good riding companions and we have a lot of them here.
2006 Vespa GT (Rocket): 2005 Vespa GT (Razzo): 2006 Vespa GT (Crash): 2007 Vespa GT (Vanessa): 2009 Yamaha Zuma 125 (Zoom): 2018 Yamaha Xmax (Max),
Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 4244
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:06 am quote
I do all three, and enjoy the mix.

We have a very active scooter club in Jacksonville, led by rwd1954.

He has rides scheduled for every weekend, Tuesday evenings and every other Thursday.

I used to go on almost every ride, leading most, but miss most of them these days.

Part of the reason is that my favorite rides are with Lostboater. Our Oyster and Courthouse Tours are perfect for anyone who enjoys long, country rides.

And I ride solo everywhere else. Some of the best rides are heading somewhere to meet up with a group, either to the mountains, south Florida or across the country.

I enjoy these because I ride faster than most. When I am on my own, I can ride any way I like, passing quickly, running my speed, stopping only for fuel.

Mixing it up keeps riding fun.


Riding in Italy with Sarah. Photo by Lostboater.

Benelli TNT 125/Kymco AK550 I don't care. You can quote me.
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: South East Great England of Britishland
Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:02 am quote
I have to ride solo these days because I've run out of friends

Bill x
Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956 - Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport 1951
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 2555
Location: Latina (Italy)
Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:34 am quote
Normally i drive alone, i don't like to run fast (my average speed is 65/75 km / h) and often the others I know travel faster; therefore it is a well-established habit here from my areas to make scooter gatherings where we meet and then all together we drive along a pre-established route for a few kilometers and finally arrive at a restaurant where we binge excessively ... who can.

I have few photos of me at the meetings, here a few years ago with the T Max 500.

And here at a Vespa meeting, infiltrated with X Max 250 because it is well known in my area and they don't say no to me when I introduce myself with a non-Vespa scooter.
2018 Piaggio BV 350
Joined: 08 Jun 2019
Posts: 150
Location: NJ
Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:31 am quote
I went for one terrifying group ride last August with a crew that said one thing, and did another. "It'll be scenic, no highway, no worries!" Not so! But, on the way back, those of us who were displeased rode back together so we went from a group of about 12 to 5 riding back from the beach. That was my first group ride, but hopefully not my last!

I commute to work when the weather is warm, sunny. With any luck I'll be able to start end of March or April, through mid-to-late November this year. And maybe I'll get the winter gear so I can go longer. Otherwise, I ride by myself mostly and enjoy it. I do find my eyes fixating on rides with a lot of people.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
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Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:06 am quote
Re: Biffa
Bill Dog wrote:
Solo. Long and as fast as possible.

A bit like my sex life.


Bill x
Wouldn't that just be fast a possible
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:13 am quote
Solo riding is what I like the most. Will fall into formation if I meet other bikes as long as they are going my direction.
Meet my first Vespa while out riding the other day on my BV350, was so mad I hadn't ridden the Sei Giorni. He was on a 200 GT and had only been riding for a few months. Told him about the local Vespa club and about MV while talking at a light.
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