P200 ignition upgrade
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Hooked
1984 PX200, 1962 Fuji Rabbit S601, 1959 Mitsubishi Pigeon, Gilera Model 50 CB1, Motomarina Sebring, and Tri-ped Micocar
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Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:11 pm quote
1984 PX200e no battery from the factory. Touring over long distance, will be running a ported stock top end with a malossi piston. Sip2.0 box exhaust, 60mmcrank.
Are there any variable ignitions that really stand out for realiability, performance...?
Ossessionato
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Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:11 pm quote
I know this doesn't answer you question, but how much porting do you have on that cylinder? The reason i ask is because most of the variable timing kits are so over overkill on a stock cylinder that i can actually be detrimental. That being said, i currently have a Vespatronic and Varitronic on a couple tuned up scooters. Those ignition kits work great on those bikes. I have a DC Vape variable kit on my stock P2. I really don't care for the variable timing on my stock engine though. I also just ordered an AC Vape variable kit for my soon to be kitted PK. Glean what you will from all of that.
Hooked
1984 PX200, 1962 Fuji Rabbit S601, 1959 Mitsubishi Pigeon, Gilera Model 50 CB1, Motomarina Sebring, and Tri-ped Micocar
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 120
Location: St. Louis
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:00 pm quote
Here are pics of the ported cylinder, currently being bored to fit a malossi mhr piston. Leaning pretty hard towards the flytech, I have been happy with the quality of pinasco in the past. It also has the added benefit of coming with another box of parts coming from Gickspeed, fewer boxes of scooter parts means less scrutiny of my expenditures on this motor.

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Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:43 am quote
Interested to know the same... what is the best ignition system at the moment...

Or doesnít it actually matter... all upgrades are about the same?
Ossessionato
73 Rally, 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 65 Li225 Silver Special, 86,95,96 Elite 80s, 2015 HD Road Glide Special, 2011 Ural Tourist
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Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:06 am quote
I canít tell you whatís best. My experience is limited to a Kytronik and Pinasco flytech. When they work as expected then lifeís peachy. When the systems fail youíre stuck (kinda)

Pros to the Kytronik- you use your original stator, you can keep your original flywheel (electric start/heavy), no new wiring to install, doesnít mess with the lighting. When the Kytronik failed it was an easy diagnoses on the side of the road. Switch stator wires and do you have spark? Easy instructions. Cons- Unfortunately you have to advance your stator when you install (24-27*BTDC). If for some reason it dies on you, you canít just remove the Kytronic box. Youíll need tools to remove the flywheel and go back to standard 18* and then continue on. One other con is I noticed is that the Kytronik didnít like certain stators. Motor A with a stock stator and SIP touring 200 flywheel wouldnít idle. Motor B with the same flywheel works fine. WTH?

Pros on the flytech. Itís all one kit ready to install. Never had one die on me. No curves to mess with. Flywheel really lightened. Cons- my kit was missing hardware. Instructions were shit. Had to dremel the stator slots to get it to fit, curve was too aggressive 8* total and I holed a piston. 24-16*. Now I set to 26-18. Plastic flywheel fins means you canít use a conventional holder. You need to get creative or buy Pinascos flywheel holder (25 euros). Search my old threads for my report.

Is there one thatís just right out of the box? Keep asking. Hope this helped.
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