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Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:35 pm quote
Italian sales figures for the period Jan > May, 2019.
I was surprised to see that more KYMCO scooters were purchased, than Vespas.
Could it be that in that country "bang for the buck" Levi's wins over, say - Gucci?
As always - big wheel scooters as favored
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:51 pm quote
I know the SH150 didn't sell well in the US. Why won't Honda try the SH300 here? There are dozens of 125-150cc scooters available in the US, but there aren't many different 300cc scoots around. I'd buy one tomorrow. *



*I know this is an old lament. Sorry.
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:19 pm quote
Same reason the KYMCO dropped the excellent GT300 big wheel, and SYM cant give away the CityCom big wheel. The SYM HD200's did have a solid fan base. Guess our roads are better in the United States?
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm quote
sc00ter wrote:
Same reason the KYMCO dropped the excellent GT300 big wheel, and SYM cant give away the CityCom big wheel. The SYM HD200's did have a solid fan base. Guess our roads are better in the United States?
Probably, though the GT300i didn't fit me. Loved my HD200, had it 5 years before it got wrecked. SYM Taiwan has an HD300, wonder if it will make it here.
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:49 pm quote
Kymko in Italy is selling at lowered prices to occupy a large slice of the market, as I wrote in another topic I don't understand why in the USA there are no longer scooters and motorcycles of many brands as in my small country, it's strange ... very .
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:37 am quote
I was first surprised of the large number of Honda X-ADVs - until it came to my mind, that it is quite common to see Honda Africa Twins in Italy.

How is it Attilio in your area, do you see X-ADV scooter often?
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:49 am quote
Yes ... they are there ... and the incredible thing is that there are many expensive maxi scooters; the most widespread is the T Max, whose price even when used remains high.
Anyone who has been to Italy knows that the replacement of the scooter fleet is fast ...
We italians are very "fashionable", we must always have the latest model, money permitting ....
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:31 am quote
Piaggio actually shows pretty well . People buy scoots for all sorts of reasons and the Vespa line is pricey so will never be way up top. Having the GTS 300 sitting at 11 is actually pretty good. The BV being higher up makes perfect sense as it is a great scoot and you get more bang for your buck than the GTS. The GTS really is a fashion choice and the BV probably the more logical one if you want to buy a smaller Italian Maxi scoot.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:24 am quote
OS, IIRC Piaggio/Vespa has for sometime lagged way behind in sales compared to other brands in Italy. Some say it was due to price others say reliability.

As far as the US is concerned, scooters are a novelty.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:33 am quote
At position 42 HD Iron 883 with 472 pieces, at 61 HD Softail Sport Glide with 355 pieces, at 62 HD Street Glide Special with 349 pieces, at 73 HD XL 1200 X Forty-Eight with 291 pieces, at 84 HD FXBB Street Bob with 268 pieces; all things considered, the Italian motorcycle market is a good place for Harley Davidson considering the particular type of models.
TroutBum wrote:
OS, IIRC Piaggio/Vespa has for sometime lagged way behind in sales compared to other brands in Italy. Some say it was due to price others say reliability.
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The two together.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:51 am quote
TroutBum wrote:
IIRC Piaggio/Vespa has for sometime lagged way behind in sales compared to other brands in Italy. Some say it was due to price others say reliability.
In that list above, among the 20 top sellers - 7 are Piaggios, 5 are Hondas, and 4 are Kymcos.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:07 pm quote
Syd wrote:
I know the SH150 didn't sell well in the US. Why won't Honda try the SH300 here? There are dozens of 125-150cc scooters available in the US, but there aren't many different 300cc scoots around. I'd buy one tomorrow. *



*I know this is an old lament. Sorry.
The SH-150 was built in Italy and cost over four grand at a time you could buy a 250 bike for less. Honda switched to the Thai built PCX and watched it sell for under $3500. Build the SH in China or Thailand and bring it in for under six grand and it might have a winner. Although it would go head to head with the Yamaha XMax.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:24 pm quote
Dooglas wrote:
TroutBum wrote:
IIRC Piaggio/Vespa has for sometime lagged way behind in sales compared to other brands in Italy. Some say it was due to price others say reliability.
In that list above, among the 20 top sellers - 7 are Piaggios, 5 are Hondas, and 4 are Kymcos.
My comment was in response to the OP surprise as to the number of Kymco sold in Italy vs Vespas.
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Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:27 pm quote
TroutBum wrote:
Dooglas wrote:
TroutBum wrote:
IIRC Piaggio/Vespa has for sometime lagged way behind in sales compared to other brands in Italy. Some say it was due to price others say reliability.
In that list above, among the 20 top sellers - 7 are Piaggios, 5 are Hondas, and 4 are Kymcos.
My comment was in response to the OP surprise as to the number of Kymco sold in Italy vs Vespas.
I think that may have been a little tongue in cheek from the OP.

Kymco makes a good product and Vespa IS a prestige brand. Not every Italian sits there there sipping their espresso while dreaming of their next gelato. Most Italians I can guarantee you just go with what they think will get the job done for the best value. I imagine a few that bought a non Italian scoot would have preferred a Vespa if it fit in the budget but price and value was king. With the global melting pot this world is becoming things like national pride and the strong urge to buy products just because they were made in your country is becoming less and less of a selling feature. Post WWII and in times when countries were rebuilding of course it was but shipping was also more expensive then. Now it's a tough market but more global so that is an upside. Piaggio may sell less Vespas in Italy than say they used to but they can ship them overseas with less cost than ever which helps the bottom line.
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Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:47 am quote
Kymco Peoples 150 - Rules in Naples, Italy
Living in Napoli or Naples, Italy, I can report that this is a favorite to the locals for three reasons: Price, value, and most importantly it is not stolen like a Vespa. Plus, service is good and easily found. I have a dealership and repair on the corner where I live. All of the people that I talk with make me wish that I had bought one due to the continual two year problem with my Vespa Primavera stalling at intersections, stops, etc. Plus: 1. the wheels are larger and can go up a road curb or sidewalk to park. 2. The roads are very rough, a lot of old cobblestone, black brick roads and the larger wheels and shock absorber seem to handle the bumps better. I get beat-up pretty bad at times on my Vespa and canít park as easily as mentioned above. On a positive note, the Vespa is more agile and looks a lot nicer...
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Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:39 pm quote
To draw a comparison:
Best selling bike 2019 in Germany: BMW R1250 GS, 9417 vehicles
Second best selling: Vespa GTS 300, 6996 vehicles
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