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GS-150 VS4
Joined: 04 Feb 2020
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:18 am quote
I am restoring this vespa vs4:

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body stripped and ready getting ready for paint.

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GS-150 VS4
Joined: 04 Feb 2020
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:42 am quote
gs 150 vs4
It's very difficult to get this thing started. I can barely post this much. This is my fifth attempt so I will say as little as possible rather than explain anything so I don't have to write it over again:

Consider this a poor man's restoration at this point...

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one of two engine stands I made.

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polishing parts.

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petcock wrench made from Delta shaper tool.

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mondo bondo

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front fork cleaning

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nut size is 1/4 " SAE

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cheap tank rust removal tool.

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It gets in the corners surprisingly well

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cleaned up wheel house



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GS-150 VS4
Joined: 04 Feb 2020
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:18 am quote
before pictures: diamond in the rough.
Here are some shots I wasn't able to upload earlier:

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before picture of engine

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tail light area damage

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another look at engine

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burning off paint and bondo.

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before picture



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GS-150 VS4
Joined: 04 Feb 2020
Posts: 37
Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:50 am quote
strange gs150 setup, or "how to abuse a vintage scooter
I can't find any information on why someone decided to use a 1990 Mercedes coil on this motor. The previous owner claimed he payed a mechanic $1800 to rebuild the motor, and that he hired a local Mexican guy to paint it. I discovered white spray on top of a coating of grease and dirt on the underside, as well as areas with thick cracking bondo, so I obviously had to strip everything. I hope the engine was rebuilt correctly, especially for that amount of dough. I will obviously find that out when I eventually try to start it, but for now I'll leave it alone.

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Mercedes coil attached to engine.

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painted over dirt in wheel well.

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nice little pile of scraped of paint, oil, and dirt.



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GS-150 VS4
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:11 am quote
gs 150 abuse
My guess is the Mercedes coil was a crude attempt at doing a 12v conversion of some kind. I hope it was good they didn't find a battery to put in it too. I can only imagine what damage it already did to the rectifier or stator assembly components. I also found several parts attached with pointed tip sheet metal and wood screws. The original Dellorto carb was in sorry shape, but I think I can make it work with some TLC.

I wonder what I should do with that air filter setup. It doesn't look correct to me.

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Dellorto carb with abused bolt head.

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sloppy petcock assembly.

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primitive air filter setup

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sheetmetal screw on the carb.

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GS-150 VS4
Joined: 04 Feb 2020
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:06 am quote
progress on restoration
I am getting closer to paint day. Awaiting shipment of 2k primer from

speedokote...

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hubs finally scrubbed to the metal.

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under side much better prepped than before.

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cleaned and painted motor on improvised stand.

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hubs before being stripped



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Molto Verboso
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Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:29 pm quote
Interesting project, Iím just about to the point of paint as well.
I find best way to post pics is , use camera in phone, upload from phone to google photos, save the photos to a folder on computer and upload one at a time to site.
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GS-150 VS4
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:15 pm quote
Finally got my Speedokote 2k primer, fast reducer, icing glaze filler, and wet/dry sandpaper. Spent this Sunday spreading and sanding the filler by hand. It's a lot of work. I can't afford any discs now for my random orbit sander so it's all by hand first with 320 grit sandpaper. I pretty much have to do it that way from now on anyhow, after making some welding repairs to the battery tray and a couple of underside ribs and having to grind down spot welds. Nothing is really flat so I have to sand by hand with a home made cork block. It's looking pretty smooth now by I know there's still a long way to go. It's all in the prep.

Here are some other pictures from a while ago:

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repairing flywheel shroud.

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All parts go into a trunk my neighbor tossed out.



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Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:03 pm quote
some more cleaning pictures:

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polished nut and washer

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cleaning petcock



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Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:28 pm quote
gs 150 resto
I also sprayed Permatex rust treatment inside the tank and on light oxidation still on other body parts. The leg shield required some careful re-bending and mallet work from previous crash damage. Overall however the frame was in amazingly sound condition considering it's age, and had only minimal surface rust.

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Bent leg shield edge

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another view of bent area

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removing logo after burning off paint.

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GS-150 VS4
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:02 am quote
uploading pictures
Oh yes. I figured out how to upload pictures. I can only do it from my MacBook Pro if I first export them to my documents folder. At first I tried going straight from "photos", but for some reason that doesn't work.
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GS-150 VS4
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Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:31 pm quote
primer cote
Finally got around to priming the bike, taking advantage of the 70 degrees (farenheit) weather today. It is set to get cold and possibly rainy again by Sunday, so I jumped on it today, setting up in a corner of the back yard next to the wood fence, where an old clothes hanger post of some sort helped hang parts for spraying. I used an el cheap sprayer I have and it worked just fine. I plan to wet sand again before base coat anyway and just wanted to seal everything well before it gets wet again.

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Speedokote 2k epoxy primer and Upol icing body filler glaze.

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filed and getting sanded

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simple sanding block made of cork.

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primer sprayed

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improvised gun holder nailed to the fence

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compressor with sprayed body parts

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Pro X One spray gun with 1.7 mm tip.

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GTS 300
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Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:41 pm quote
I'm very impressed with your innovative approach to your project.

I'll be following along to see how it goes and hope for a great result for you.
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GS-150 VS4
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Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:27 pm quote
paint progress
I looked over the primer and came across a few areas that needed more going over--slight bumps and waviness, but not too bad. I expected it. Sometimes a coat of primer helps reveal finer details that need attention. I will have to invest in a bit more unfortunately, but it's worth it. I'd like to get some 1k urethane or acrylic high build stuff this time. Perhaps a can of the "Max" brand I see on eBay. I also found a German supplier of original Grigio Azura base coat, but I'm having difficulty getting them to ship to USA. They are called the "Spraydosen shop". I wonder if anyone has any other affordable suggestions for original Max Meyer paint colors.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:04 pm quote
Wow GS 150 looking great
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Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:02 pm quote
Re: paint progress
nickton wrote:
I also found a German supplier of original Grigio Azura base coat, but I'm having difficulty getting them to ship to USA. They are called the "Spraydosen shop". I wonder if anyone has any other affordable suggestions for original Max Meyer paint colors.
Great Project!
Glasurit Paint stores that can mix paint should have the original Max Meyer or PPG vespa paint for you. It is non lead but the paint from Germany may have lead and maybe the reason it can not be shipped to the USA.

Good luck!
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Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:36 pm quote
aha. Thanks for the tip. I thought it might be something like that. I also found that Maske has original paint he can send me. I'll check out Glasurit too. I need to wait for funds now.
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GS-150 VS4
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Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:00 am quote
more sanding and priming
Here's an update on the painting:

I hope everyone's Covid-19 free by the way. We've been sheltering in place and eking by with limited funds, and I've been busy in my backyard shop. I purchased a used Satajet spray gun on eBay, to use for base and clear. I figured it would be a good investment if I wanted a quality finish, and I've watched a few Eastwood and House of Color instructional videos on vehicle painting, which have put the fear of orange peel, tiger stripe, and fisheye into me.
Yesterday I finally applied a second coat of primer after it arrived in the mail. I used more glazing body fill after tapping out a few more areas needing attention. I also used seam sealer on some areas, though I now realize it wasn't necessary. It seemed like an interesting product when I saw it on line and decided to give it a try. I now would like to get some high build polyurethane primer but am debating whether I really need it. I found the original base coat color at Maske's in the Netherlands, and ordered the recommended 3 cans for about $150--which I don't yet have, but that's okay since I need to do more prep still.

There will be more rain this weekend, so I'm glad I coated those bare metal spots.
Here's a few photos:

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more primer, wrong color but that's okay.

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It was literally rough around the edges. Maybe this is overkill. Lots of hand sanding required.

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beige primer applied. Not quite enough in the can.

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cowls look better.

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leg shield is getting there.

Molto Verboso
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Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:19 am quote
looking great as a fellow GS 150 owner rooting for you!
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GS-150 VS4
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:00 am quote
Thanks. I can't be in a hurry on this one, and I think it will take a long time, but that's okay.
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Tons
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Location: Maine
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:04 pm quote
Looks great! Keep up the good work. Got a vs4 awaiting this type of treatment!
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GS-150 VS4
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Location: Vallejo, CA
Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:29 pm quote
coronavirus has me completely stuck on pause with this project for now. I cannot afford the cost of base coat and I need to pay off my PayPal credit debt somehow.
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