A Minnesota Shit Box in Texas (63 VNB resto).
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:12 pm quote
Perfecto!!
Molto Verboso
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:28 pm quote
Birdsnest wrote:
It’s a 140/BE3/98 (or 100... tbd)

And this is why Greasy scares me...
Excellent, thanks for that. And the crate is PERFECTION
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:28 am quote
Birdsnest wrote:
Flattening the gloss with Talc was a pretty impactful step.
Can you share some wisdom on the talc process? Do you spray and then apply it to the wet paint? Or wait until its tacky? Or dry? How do you apply it evenly?
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:59 am quote
So I have read of folks mixing it with their paint and shooting through a filter to catch the particles that didn't absorb. But, I've never see it done in practice so can't comment. My method is stupid simple...

Shoot your paint.
Let it dry completely.
Sprinkle Talc (has to be talc and not "baby powder") over fresh paint.
Rub in gently.
Blow off excess.

It acts like a 3000/4000 grit sand paper and just barley cuts back the shine of the new paint.

My scoot was grey and thus a really friendly candidate for trying to match paint. Red will be tougher, but I bet you can probably get real close.
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:47 pm quote
Ok, I have to admit that Mark has been the key to getting the last fiddly bits of this shit box sorted. Thanks amigo!!! He came by today and after some breakfast sandwiches we (he) figured out the crazy repop switch. We now have a horn and running lights... aka “street legal” in Texas!

We then swapped out rear axle nuts. I had a tiny leak on the OG nut.
Anyone have a solution for this?
This is my second scoot that has had the issue. Although this one is nowhere near as bad as my old rally 180, it is still enough to roach the brake shoes with a drop or two of gear oil.

In other news, I put a 98 main in and we GPSd at 57 and change. Still had alot of wind up left too. I suspect 60 will be easy work once it’s broken in.

I am an official member of the 8’s Fan Club!!!

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Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:35 am quote
You are too kind, Jeff. It is a group effort! Brekky sandwiches hit the spot. Thank you.

That scoot on 8's shore is a kwik little bugger!

Calling out to the brain trust here. Following Jeff's question, but how to stop the inevitable slow leak around the rear axle castle nut?? Metal-castle nut on metal-outer-rear bearing always seems to seep a little oil.

-make a paper gasket donut?
-teflon tape the threads? (saw this on a video)
-small smear of some type of sealer? (don't want to muck up the bearing or make it a PITA to remove next time though)

Thanks in advance.

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Molto Verboso
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:54 am quote
Hmmm, I thought a seal went over that bearing and there is a wire clip in there to keep the nut from backing out.

We just cleaned up Chris's brakes and had a look at what was going on. Leaking from the same spot. But there is a rubber seal on the outside. I'm glad I took a pic!

BTW, good work! 8's are awesome!

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The wire clip isn't in the pic but it hooks between the two sets of valleys, so to speak.

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Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:58 am quote
I’m so important with how great it sounds zipping on the road, it really sounds well tuned already. I wish mine sounded that great.
The box really makes it .
I think you should crown it , no longer a Minnesota Shit Box. So impressed.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:05 am quote
Lynnb wrote:
I’m so important with how great it sounds zipping on the road, it really sounds well tuned already. I wish mine sounded that great.
The box really makes it .
I think you should crown it , no longer a Minnesota Shit Box. So impressed.
I agree. The Minnesota swiss watch sounds marvelous. In comparison, B-62 sounds like a box of rocks! I've got to split the cases and see what's what in there. I want to replace the crank because I had to use the brass bushing instead of needle bearings when connecting the 177 piston. And the kick starter has something funky going on too. This thread is inspiring me to make it happen, probably sooner rather than later.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:33 am quote
qascooter wrote:
Hmmm, I thought a seal went over that bearing and there is a wire clip in there to keep the nut from backing out.

We just cleaned up Chris's brakes and had a look at what was going on. Leaking from the same spot. But there is a rubber seal on the outside. I'm glad I took a pic!

BTW, good work! 8's are awesome!
Qascooter, you are correct. Photo I used doesn't show the seal or clip in place. Both those pieces are there but the oil seep always seems to show itself at the threads where there it is metal to metal contact.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:13 pm quote
poidog wrote:
qascooter wrote:
Hmmm, I thought a seal went over that bearing and there is a wire clip in there to keep the nut from backing out.

We just cleaned up Chris's brakes and had a look at what was going on. Leaking from the same spot. But there is a rubber seal on the outside. I'm glad I took a pic!

BTW, good work! 8's are awesome!
Qascooter, you are correct. Photo I used doesn't show the seal or clip in place. Both those pieces are there but the oil seep always seems to show itself at the threads where there it is metal to metal contact.
OK, cool. The VBB case is new to me so Chris and I were both scratching our heads wondering about the leak. He's keeping an eye on it to see how badly it's leaking. I'd think the seal would keep it from leaking....
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:55 pm quote
Thanks for the thoughts on the leak y’all. Gratzi
And even more thanks for the comments abut the tune. Poi Dog is for sure the reason it is dialed in so quickly. He knows what for.

BTW... Truth in advertising-
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In other news, I put a 98 main in and we GPSd at 57
Have not been able to repeat that run I have 53.6 and 54 In subsequent runs.

I’m not complaining mind you.
But that first result may have been “GPS signal” enhanced speed. (Still...every time I peg the KPH speedo all the way to the bottom past 90 it makes me grin like a fool.)
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 pm quote
Looks pretty dang good.

Proper old scooter, struggling to get to 60. Best wishes!
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