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Molto Verboso
1963 VBB2T
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Wed May 13, 2020 9:27 am quote
Time to get going on the 63 vbb project. Its been 8 years since I brought the scooter home and learned soooooo much of just how bad it was.

I first want to give a big shout out to all those that helped me and and especially to Voodoo who showed me the way to fix my bodged brake setup.

There was so much to learn to move forward on this project , welding and painting and patience.

I won't bother anyone with the before pics, tends to upset the eye's.

So first thing, new floor installed and proper brake peg and fabricated the rear brake line housing in the frame to route the brake line. Much of this can be seen here bodywork - over my head

Ordered the proper tools for doing the legshield trim and the floor rail riveting from Sip, anyone want to buy them at a reduced price now?

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Ok I lied , put some sunglasses on.

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old floor removed and proper brake peg welded in

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peg welded in

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Floor welded in place

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Paint done and Legshield trim install using the tool

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Molto Verboso
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Wed May 13, 2020 9:29 am quote
And on with floor rails.

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Bit of a mishap when I thought I had enough paint removed to test brake pedal

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Molto Verboso
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Thu May 14, 2020 4:48 am quote
Had a bit of a problem with the centre stand , seems the manufacturer of the new floor I put on put the holes too close together, me not know much about whats right or wrong I had to find some quick answers not only with which direction the hardware went but also where to drill the new holes and which holes to offset off.

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Ossessionato
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Thu May 14, 2020 7:04 am quote
Nice job Lynn! Killer color. Keeping the motor stock or upgrading?
Molto Verboso
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Thu May 14, 2020 8:28 am quote
MJRally wrote:
Nice job Lynn! Killer color. Keeping the motor stock or upgrading?
Thanks , its moving in the right direction.
New 20/20 carb, 12v Ducati ignition kit , DR 180 top end kit and Rich Nice crank, Jon from Gick Speed did the motor back in 2013 and has been sitting in the tote it was shipped in, never touched it. I opened it up a week back and see I'm going to have to do some cleaning on it as well as the carb before I install on the motor.
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Thu May 14, 2020 10:17 am quote
This lovely vbb again

U did a great job Brother Lynn

Stay safe and cheer
Molto Verboso
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Thu May 14, 2020 6:08 pm quote
Thanks Ebeth
Busy day, started by removing the lower race and installing the missing dust shield, then clean the upper race of the paint. Next was to install the fork lock, then install the fender onto fork. I thought it was maybe a good idea to add plastic washers to the fender bolts.
Fork got installed and adjusted for fall away.
Forgot to mention the Sip conversion harness is installed as well.

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Molto Verboso
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Thu May 14, 2020 6:18 pm quote
Next on the list was centre mat , cleaned out the holes and installed.
I had a bit of a hastle installing the rear brake pedal stop switch, had a hard time getting the wires soldered to the metal tabs, hopefully I did them in the right order, I just went off the picture of the wire diagram for the Sip conversion harness. Red being bottom at the big hole of switch.

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Molto Verboso
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Fri May 15, 2020 5:45 am quote
Wow amazing job! Great color looks very very nice. Glad you created this post enjoying watching your progress keep the pic coming!
Molto Verboso
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Fri May 15, 2020 7:24 pm quote
hibbert wrote:
Wow amazing job! Great color looks very very nice. Glad you created this post enjoying watching your progress keep the pic coming!
Thank you, slow going, amazing how many small important parts I can misplace in a mere 7 years. Had to make an order.
bodgemaster
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Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 am quote
Paint looks great, Lynn, your good careful work paid off.
Molto Verboso
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Sat May 16, 2020 7:36 am quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Paint looks great, Lynn, your good careful work paid off.
Thanks , couldn't have gotten this far without you guys.
Molto Verboso
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:55 pm quote
Ok where am I , cables all run , wiring all run , , switch in headset is wired ( actually GickSpeed prewired it for me for sending it to me) I tinned the wire ends before fastening down ,ahhh ok the infamous headset, I got it all fixed up and even filed down the tabs on the spring tab washers so they would fit in the pulley holes. I want to take some good pictures so if some poor smuck that needs to see what maybe the right way that the headset goes together. So to be clear the tab spring washers are facing the pulleys and tabs on both are inserted in the holes.

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throttle side

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may 18 pulley loctited.jpg
don't forget the blue loctite

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clutch side

Molto Verboso
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Mon May 18, 2020 1:03 pm quote
I've been waiting for this moment for a long time , I was'nt sure the best approach to do this seeing as I'm working alone. So I put a towel over a yellow tote and lifted the partial built scoot ontop of the tote. Now got my floor jack to help out a bit and finally got the motor in place . Ok looks a bit unstable but its not bad. One step at a time right?

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Molto Verboso
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Wed May 27, 2020 9:40 am quote
Nothing to brag about, had to return to work.
I did get the wiring to taillite routing figured out .
Also added the bracket for the gear shift cables.
Decided to go ahead and add the carb base to motor , duct tape was over the hole since 2013. I wasn't sure if the single screw was ok to edge up above the base a bit but realized there is a space on the bottom of the carb for it,

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Molto Verboso
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Wed May 27, 2020 11:12 am quote
Carb bolted down, I need some hose clamps.

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Molto Verboso
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Thu May 28, 2020 9:39 am quote
Moving slowly forward, sooner or later there will be nothing left to do but start it up and go for a ride.
I do have an order coming that will replace many parts that I will install as I go but I'll just call them upgrades when I switch them out.

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Not sure why there is such a bend in the allignment where cables go into adjusters

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I found it strange there is no little clip for where the excess cables should loop back and seat in home position

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Molto Verboso
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Sat May 30, 2020 6:48 am quote
Doing a good job. Love the color.
Molto Verboso
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Sat May 30, 2020 12:43 pm quote
Thanks Orange

Got the Regulator installed , ohm meter says its grounded good.
I connected the leads the regulator and I must say this Sip conversion harness must be well made because once connected they are difficult to pull out.

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Molto Verboso
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Sun May 31, 2020 2:40 pm quote
Moving forward, I decided to drill holes in the gear selector cover for the cable ends to exit out the back rather than being bunched up under the cover. I cut the cables and soldered the ends solid. Greased up the path of the cables on the gear selector and put cover on.
Installed the muffler.
Installed the bellow for carb.
Installed covers on motor.

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may 31 motor gear selector.jpg

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may 31 motor cover.jpg

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Ossessionato
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Sun May 31, 2020 4:15 pm quote
Lynn,

Good progress so far. One thing I caught is you put grease all over the top of the batwing gear. Dont grease there, grease in the front where the spring and teeth are.
Molto Verboso
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Sun May 31, 2020 5:50 pm quote
MJRally wrote:
Lynn,

Good progress so far. One thing I caught is you put grease all over the top of the batwing gear. Dont grease there, grease in the front where the spring and teeth are.
Ok I'll remove the grease off the top. Should I grease in the tracks where the cables ride?
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Sun May 31, 2020 5:58 pm quote
The tracks should be fine without it.
Molto Verboso
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Sun May 31, 2020 6:08 pm quote
MJRally wrote:
The tracks should be fine without it.
Oh ok , I guess I better stay off youtube
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Sun May 31, 2020 6:10 pm quote
What did you see on YouTube that said the tracks can use grease?
Molto Verboso
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Sun May 31, 2020 6:38 pm quote
MJRally wrote:
What did you see on YouTube that said the tracks can use grease?
This guys restore at about 2 minutes or so
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Sun May 31, 2020 7:04 pm quote
I've seen people put some grease on the bottom of the lid as a reserve for if you need it while out on the road, but its not there for lubricating the gear in the way you put it. Maybe in that video he is doing an alternate version of that instead of putting it inside the lid, he's putting a bunch on the top of the gear itself as an easy way to store some in case he needs it away from garage.

BTW, I like your solution to the cable problem by drilling the holes for them to pass through.
Molto Verboso
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Sun May 31, 2020 7:16 pm quote
swiss1939 wrote:
I've seen people put some grease on the bottom of the lid as a reserve for if you need it while out on the road, but its not there for lubricating the gear in the way you put it. Maybe in that video he is doing an alternate version of that instead of putting it inside the lid, he's putting a bunch on the top of the gear itself as an easy way to store some in case he needs it away from garage.

BTW, I like your solution to the cable problem by drilling the holes for them to pass through.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, the holes were from the video.
Funny about storing the grease.
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:09 am quote
Lynnb wrote:
MJRally wrote:
What did you see on YouTube that said the tracks can use grease?
This guys restore at about 2 minutes or so
Ah tracks. Lost in translation. I was thinking the channels in the batwing gear the inners go through.

As far as greasing where the cable clamps go, it makes sense. Metal on metal contact and a little grease to soften things. Only downside I could see to that would be a real mess if you ever had to change a cable. Now that itís done youíre not hurting anything so move on. Itís coming together great!
Molto Verboso
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:28 pm quote
Thanks MJ I did clear off the excess.

I finally got the scoot off the table, not an easy task when you're working alone.
So Cool.

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Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:29 pm quote
scoot looks clean and real nice! will be pretty when its finished off and back on the road.
Molto Verboso
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:39 pm quote
Thanks Swiss , I'm getting excited to start it, gotta figure out how this 2% mix thing works
Lurker
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:55 am quote
Beautiful colour! You're not going to put that PX legshield box back on, are you?
Molto Verboso
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:31 am quote
3narf wrote:
Beautiful colour! You're not going to put that PX legshield box back on, are you?
Thanks , no ,that box his the trash back in 2013

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Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:01 am quote
Lynnb wrote:
3narf wrote:
Beautiful colour! You're not going to put that PX legshield box back on, are you?
Thanks , no ,that box his the trash back in 2013

Welcome to MV.
Thanks!
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