250 Dipstick vs 1.2L of Oil
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:48 am quote
Hi All, first time post, long time lurker. Just picked up a 2008 MP3 250 that had been sitting for a couple of years. New Battery, flushed brakes, new parking brake cable(not fun) and its back to it's glory.

I just performed an oil change for the first time and I very carefully measured out 1.2L(one bottle at 946mL and 237mL or 1/4 of another bottle for a total 1183mL) and I was way over the max line, about 200mL or roughly the distance from min to max, but passed max. Bike was reasonably level(really really slight inclne of the driveway so if anything, it would read less) on the center stand when checking, wiped dipstick, thread all the way in and all the way out. I used a syringe to remove enough oil to get it down to the max line.

Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?

thanks!
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:53 am quote
Did you also change the oil filter?
Were there any metal bits in the pre-filter strainer?
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:54 am quote
No metal bits, I I did also change the filter but now that I think about it, I didn't spin over the motor, let it run, and then check when cold so maybe that could be why. Just sort of panicked at such a high oil level indication that I didn't want to run it until it was within the hatch marks.
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:25 pm quote
was it on the center stand? needs to be off the center stand to check oil level.
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:42 pm quote
Yup it was indeed on the center stand.
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:54 pm quote
So currently your situation is you have showing the right level but your not 100% sure the bike was level, due to the incline and stand situation.

Iíd simply ride it somewhere flat, the oil will be warmed up, itís level. Then simply top up or remove to get it showing correctly.

The dipstick is the datum not what came out, the previous owner could easily have got it wrong.....lots do.
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Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:32 am quote
Basically I was hoping for someone to say ďyes, I also measure out 1.2L of oil and it reads that high on the dipstick until you run it for a few minutes and check againĒ so I donít have to guess and check as I fill on my next oil change. Iím still waiting for plates and itís at a family members home so I canít really ride it around. I appreciate the responses, thanks!
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Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:47 am quote
I always did the oil change on the centre-stand on my Fuoco.

When you empty the oil, there's always about 150-200ml left in, in various passages and at the bottom of the sump. So I refill with 900ml to start with, and usually the level then is about 3/4 of the way between min and max after the bike's been run for a few minutes and then allowed to settle down.

I normally never have the oil right up to the max mark in any engine.
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Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:57 am quote
And be sure you have not overfilled the oil level. The 250/300 Piaggio engine seems particularly sensitive to overfilling and will blow oil into the air filter chamber.
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Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:35 pm quote
cmouta wrote:
No metal bits, I I did also change the filter but now that I think about it, I didn't spin over the motor, let it run, and then check when cold so maybe that could be why. Just sort of panicked at such a high oil level indication that I didn't want to run it until it was within the hatch marks.
This is exactly the problem. You have to run the engine a bit to fill the filter, and the 200 ml that you are concerned about is probably close to the filter capacity. I usually pour some of the oil I've measured out into the filter before I screw it on.
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