MP3 compatible LED headlight bulb found
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Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:20 am quote
Just wanted to throw this one out there. As we all know, the replacement of the headlight bulbs is a lot more involved and timeconsuming than it needs to be. I just burned through my 3rd bulb and the bike is just about to turn 25K km, with the last being a Philips heavy duty bulb made specifically for motorcycles.

I tried one of the myriad of Chinese dogsh!t LED bulb specials, and it failed in about a month and stuck out the back of the headlight housing and thus the dust covers couldn't be used..

Anyway, to cut the story short I just installed a 2nd gen OSRAM headlight bulb (see link) and fits the MP3 perfectly. No fans to fail and the rubber dust cover fits with room to spare.

And to boot, it's made in Italy and comes with a 5 year warranty so that's bound to be a winner.

The only downside is that only the low beam bulb fits due to the weird design by Piaggio of the high beam socket.

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B07P5NRV1K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hooked
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:44 am quote
interesting, Thank you for sharing
Ossessionato
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:48 pm quote
nope will blind on coming traffic


the mp3 doesn't have a cap in the headlightunit to shield the light that shines down like a VW or Merc

you need one with a clip over it at the bottum or a one sided cob led

these are H4 but gives an idea

Hooked
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 pm quote
Haterz are (always) gonna be haterz, but drove to and from work (about 50km) completely uneventfully (my shift ended at midnight) on a variety of roadways including freeway.

Much further and uniform beam, and no flashing from oncoming traffic to indicate that I am blinding them.

Beam pattern is very good with clear cutoff pattern without a dark center portion UNlike the last Chinese LED kit I tried.

IF you have a kit that meets your requirements AND fits the tight MP3 headlights housings WITH the rubber covers I am all ears. The pic you showed will not fit unless you leave the dust covers off.
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:26 pm quote
sbaert wrote:
Haterz are (always) gonna be haterz, but drove to and from work (about 50km) completely uneventfully (my shift ended at midnight) on a variety of roadways including freeway.

Much further and uniform beam, and no flashing from oncoming traffic to indicate that I am blinding them.

Beam pattern is very good with clear cutoff pattern without a dark center portion UNlike the last Chinese LED kit I tried.

IF you have a kit that meets your requirements AND fits the tight MP3 headlights housings WITH the rubber covers I am all ears. The pic you showed will not fit unless you leave the dust covers off.
I'm curious, is there no MOT sort of system in Belgium that would find non-OEM headlights to be somehow non-conforming?
Hooked
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:35 pm quote
No technical inspections on motorcycles, only passenger cars, trucks, and semis.

The socialist European governments get enough money sucking at the t!ts of its citizens, so don't give them any ideas.

I had to sue them (and win) to get my V12 car registered as a old timer, thus reducing the vehicle tax from 4500 euro per year to under 50. Guess they're not used to dealing with US citizens.

On my other car I installed LED Philips high beams (car has factory Xenon low beams) and OSRAM LED tail light bulbs and it passes the yearly technical without issues.
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:01 pm quote
sbaert wrote:
No technical inspections on motorcycles, only passenger cars, trucks, and semis.

The socialist European governments get enough money sucking at the t!ts of its citizens, so don't give them any ideas.

I had to sue them (and win) to get my V12 car registered as a old timer, thus reducing the vehicle tax from 4500 euro per year to under 50. Guess they're not used to dealing with US citizens.

On my other car I installed LED Philips high beams (car has factory Xenon low beams) and OSRAM LED tail light bulbs and it passes the yearly technical without issues.
Ah. US citizen. Explains the need for bright lights damn the rest of the world. GO BIG AMIRIGHT?????
Yeah, I'm a hater(z)? of non-OEM bulbs blinding me when I drive.
Just because you didn't (SEE) get high beams flashing at you doesn't mean oncoming cars were happy with you.
Hooked
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:17 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:
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Ah. US citizen. Explains the need for bright lights damn the rest of the world. GO BIG AMIRIGHT?????
Yeah, I'm a hater(z)? of non-OEM bulbs blinding me when I drive.
Just because you didn't (SEE) get high beams flashing at you doesn't mean oncoming cars were happy with you.
Not really. Wasn't interested in bright lights. Just got tired of having to replace bulbs every year on the MP3 and wanted a long term fix.

If it took under 5 minutes, I'd stick with the stock halogens but on the MP3 it is easily a 1 hour job due to all the screws and plastic that have to come off.

But I'll put it on the Hella headlight aiming rig at the shop next chance I get.
Hooked
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:18 pm quote
Just a quick update. I just performed the 25K service and put the MP3 on the Hella beamsetter rig.

Headlight pattern was spot on and required zero adjustment. Also no blinding effects were observed.

The only thing I wish is that the color temp of these LEDs were just a shade warmer, nearer to 5000 Kelvin as opposed to 6000 Kelvin but that is a just a personal preference.

But other than that, zero complaints.
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:11 pm quote
go for 3000 yellow or 4200 same as halogen
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:16 pm quote
Not available in LED from OSRAM. They are all 6000 Kelvin per their website.

https://www.osram.nl/ecat/LED%20high%20and%20low%20beam%20lamps-Cars-Automotive%20Lighting/nl/en/GPS01_3063271/PP_EUROPE_Europe_eCat/
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:53 am quote
And just as a side note, nothing wrong with something being cooled by a fan if the fan it made to last. We have servers in the Data Center that have been running untouched 24/7 for a decade.
And over all fan failures are very low.
Hooked
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:02 am quote
That's comparing apples and oranges.

Try finding a quality fan motor assembly that can survive in a environment of dust, dirt, salt, water and continuous vibration in the myriad of knockoff bargain bin Chinese LED kits.

The name brand kits appear to be moving away from fans, such as my Philips LED H11 fog kits. Same fanless design, although it still uses a external driver box while this OSRAM 2nd gen design is completely integrated.

That is a real boon for tight confined spaces such as the MP3 headlight.
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