Whatís longer wearing than a City Grip?
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:52 pm quote
This one lasted only about 8k miles. Is there something longer lasting thatís fairly grippy? I donít ride much in the rain and Iím doubly careful when I do get caught out on it. Sick of changing the back tire almost every season.

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Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:01 pm quote
8K out of a rear tire is good.

a new rear tire every season is also good as that means you get fresh rubber and not old hard tires to ride on.

typically you get 2 rear tires for every 1 set of fronts for wear.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:15 pm quote


With that level of wear, you may want to consider changing more often.
Any sort of rain with bald tires, well it's not for me.

Anyway, I use City Grips and get ~9000 miles on my MP3 500.
Yours is also a 14" rear, correct?
Oh, and at that 9000 miles I'm just getting into the wear bars, nowhere near bald.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:18 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:


With that level of wear, you may want to consider changing more often.
Any sort of rain with bald tires, well it's not for me.

Anyway, I use City Grips and get ~9000 miles on my MP3 500.
Yours is also a 14" rear, correct?
Oh, and at that 9000 miles I'm just getting into the wear bars, nowhere near bald.
Yes, it's a 14" but it's a 60, not a 70, to help get me flat footed.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:35 pm quote
Greetings:

Heavier bikes and more power wear down tires pretty fast. It's scrubbing off rubber both under acceleration and slowing down - even if you don't apply the rear brake - due to engine braking. I was lucky to get 6K on my HD Sportster. Even worse, my 500-lb. shaft-driven XS 750 rarely got 5K. Keep your mitts off that rear brake and it may last longer?
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:46 pm quote
Wheelman-111 wrote:
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Heavier bikes and more power wear down tires pretty fast. It's scrubbing off rubber both under acceleration and slowing down - even if you don't apply the rear brake - due to engine braking. I was lucky to get 6K on my HD Sportster. Even worse, my 500-lb. shaft-driven XS 750 rarely got 5K. Keep your mitts off that rear brake and it may last longer?
You may be onto something there. Iím heavier on the back brake than the front.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:14 pm quote
I count on doing new rubber every season.

Looks like you got your moneys worth out of that one.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:19 pm quote
pmatulew wrote:
I count on doing new rubber every season.

Looks like you got your moneys worth out of that one.
At least I didnít let it go until the wear bars appeared like I did the tire before that.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:53 pm quote
FWIW, I got 20K km (12.5K miles) out of my set of factory mounted Michelin City Grips.

By then, all 3 were down to the wear bars, and were replaced with identical City Grips.

Was surprised they lasted as long as they did, usually only the big touring bikes can go that long on a set of shoes.

Got a couple sets of Metzelers sitting in the garage I will try next go around.
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:45 am quote
Carolan wrote:
At least I didnít let it go until the wear bars appeared like I did the tire before that.
I'm pretty sure you were long past the wear bars on that one. Do you mean your previous tire had the cords starting to show through?! To me, it seems a little risky to be running such bald tires.
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:06 pm quote
I use 60s as well.
conti twists last me almost 1500 miles
the shinko lasted 4500

8000 miles is fabulous for the tire size. not a longer wearing tire out there
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:24 pm quote
Re: Whatís longer wearing than a City Grip?
Carolan wrote:
This one lasted only about 8k miles. Is there something longer lasting thatís fairly grippy? I donít ride much in the rain and Iím doubly careful when I do get caught out on it. Sick of changing the back tire almost every season.
I have MP3 400ie, and I get around 12,5k mile for front tyres and around 10k mil for rear, I think it depends on which brand you buy and the way or where you ride.
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 am quote
And don't forget the new CityGrip '2'. It has a harder wearing centre section over the CityGrip '1'. Supposed to last much longer. Your old tyre will be a CityGrip '1'.
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:22 am quote
Stromrider wrote:
And don't forget the new CityGrip '2'. It has a harder wearing centre section over the CityGrip '1'. Supposed to last much longer. Your old tyre will be a CityGrip '1'.
Interesting. What is the difference between a City Grip '2' and a PowerPure?
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:24 am quote
power pure is out of production a year ago

everything sold is old stock made 18 and 2019

Allready posted something bout the new 2's in another thread
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:30 pm quote
Maksor wrote:
power pure is out of production a year ago
So I see. Thanks. Found a link here re: CG2

https://motorcycle.michelinman.com/motorbike/browse-tyres/by-category/scooter
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:06 am quote
Re: Whatís longer wearing than a City Grip?
Carolan wrote:
This one lasted only about 8k miles. Is there something longer lasting thatís fairly grippy? I donít ride much in the rain and Iím doubly careful when I do get caught out on it. Sick of changing the back tire almost every season.
Don't you have any laws in Ohio regarding minimum tread depth ?
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:28 pm quote
Re: Whatís longer wearing than a City Grip?
3legsofman wrote:
Carolan wrote:
This one lasted only about 8k miles. Is there something longer lasting thatís fairly grippy? I donít ride much in the rain and Iím doubly careful when I do get caught out on it. Sick of changing the back tire almost every season.
Don't you have any laws in Ohio regarding minimum tread depth ?
just google it and you'll know.
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:39 am quote
Re: Whatís longer wearing than a City Grip?
NZscoot wrote:
3legsofman wrote:
Carolan wrote:
This one lasted only about 8k miles. Is there something longer lasting thatís fairly grippy? I donít ride much in the rain and Iím doubly careful when I do get caught out on it. Sick of changing the back tire almost every season.
Don't you have any laws in Ohio regarding minimum tread depth ?
just google it and you'll know.
It would appear non unless someone can be bothered to look.
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:21 am quote
I was going to say the same thing about the wear bars. If that photo is the tire we're talking about then you're way beyond the wear bars. You're only about one ride away from having the cords showing. That tire has nothing left to give. One pointy rock would be the end of it.

I wouldn't let a tire go that far without a replacement already waiting.

And don't be afraid to use the front brakes. That was the whole point of having an extra wheel up front. Learn to use them in a progressive fashion. Squeeze gently at first to load the front and then you can lean on them hard. The tricky technique is to quickly and smoothly ease off again before making a turn. It takes a little practice to do it smoothly so you don't upset the chassis while entering the turn.
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:49 pm quote
Dooglas wrote:
Stromrider wrote:
And don't forget the new CityGrip '2'. It has a harder wearing centre section over the CityGrip '1'. Supposed to last much longer. Your old tyre will be a CityGrip '1'.
Interesting. What is the difference between a City Grip '2' and a PowerPure?
Not sure Dooglas. I haven't used the PowerPure tyres.
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Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:10 pm quote
Michelin Power Pure SC
I was also very disappointed with the typical tires used on MP3s. The Michelin Power Pure SC is a dual compound tire with a slightly harder compound in the center. I've used these on my MP3's for years now. I get a minimum of 10K miles before hitting the wear bars on the rear tire now.
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Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:37 am quote
Not sure why you guys are getting these rather short lifespans out of the factory City Grip tires.

As I stated earlier, I got near 13K miles (just over 20K km) out of the set and I'm about 240 lbs (110kg) so not exactly a featherweight. The tires were worn down evenly.

I do take it easy on the brakes (using both levers simultaneously) and no power launches or burnouts, especially since this bike is not really suited for such stupid behavior. After all, fat girls aren't olympic athletes.

As of this writing, the bike has over 26K and the brake pads have never been changed with fronts only about 50% worn.

In summary, I am more than pleased that Piaggio slapped on a good set of tires vs. some other bike manufacturers.

I replaced the City Grips with another identical set, but I've got a couple of sets of Metzelers sitting in the garage I am looking forward to test out.

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