Vespa vnb5t frame repairs
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Vespa 125 VNB5T
Joined: 12 May 2020
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Location: Tamworth
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:46 am quote
Hi folks

I'm wondering if anyone could help/advise me on my Vespa restoration?

I'm currently doing some fabrication work on the rear end number plate section and side of my Vespa 125 vnb5t. I'm going at it blind so need some measurements so I can fabricate the panels for repair!

I'd appreciate any help. I can attach some photos when required.

Cheers,

Stacy
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74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:34 pm quote
I think the photos are required. Let's see where you're having issues.

Welcome to NSM. Is that Tamworth QLD?
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:02 am quote
or Tamworth - West Mids UK ?
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Vespa 125 VNB5T
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Location: Tamworth
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:33 pm quote
Hi Chaps

Thanks for getting back to me... To answer you both it's Tamworth West Mids.

I've attached some pics with reference lines so hopefully yoy can see what i;m after.

Pic 1. Rear number plate panel - I need the size measured from where I've put the top mark to wherever it needs to be at the bottom.

Pic 2. Side frame - Again I need a measurement from where I've put the top mark to where it's supposed to finish at the bottom.

Pic 3. Horn Cover - I'm welding a new cover on but i'm not sure how far down from the legshield beading it goes... 10mm, 15mm, 20mm???.

Pic 4. Side frame (engine side) - I need the measurements for this section too as mine has been butchered along with other bits. You'll see the reference lines where I need the sizes.

Any help appreciated...

Cheers,

Stacy

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 7658
Location: Victoria, Australia
Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:59 pm quote
My frame has had a few hits (VBC) but can measure if you don't get any other help. Not much help on the horncast obviously.
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Vespa 125 VNB5T
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Location: Tamworth
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:12 pm quote
Vespa Vnb5t repairs
Alright!

Yeah that would be fantastic if you could measure up the other sections as any help is well appreciated... The horn cast will have to wait for now unless someone else can help on that side of things

Top Man...

Cheers!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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Location: Victoria, Australia
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:23 pm quote
Take these measurements as a guide, not as gospel. Although I've tried to get them as accurate as I can.

The height of the number plate area in first pic is to the peak of the lip at the top. So not just the flat section.

The 195 in second pic is to the theoretical point between the base line and a line made by following the number plate angle down until they intersect.

The 60 line in pic 3 is obviously measured at 90 degrees to the number plate surface (your yellow line was not really repeatable). And the 80 is measured to the theoretical point again... see the angle made by the 3 red dots.

How do you intend to attach the new horncast? Got some ideas?

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Vespa 125 VNB5T
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Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:15 am quote
Vespa Vnb5t repairs
Hey Ginch

Thanks for the measurements, your a star!

On the number plate section all the sizes are the same? it seems on my frame that the size tapers in slightly towards the bottom... Do you thanks tha'ts because of the repairs done incorrectly before?

Hope that makes sense!

Cheers<

Stacy
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74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Location: Victoria, Australia
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:28 pm quote
As I mentioned earlier Stacy, mine has been hit. But I also have another frame that is rusted away at the very bottom. They both look like they are straight rather than tapered, I'm pretty confident about that.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:44 am quote
Alright Ginch

Sound.... when I get some decent weather again I'll have a play about with those measurements and try to get the panels sorted! Looking forward to getting it fully prepped for paint... it been bugging me for some time and now that I've got the time I'll finally get it on the road.

Have you restored many before yourself?


Stacy
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 7658
Location: Victoria, Australia
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:40 pm quote
"Restored"is a pretty broad term! But done up to some extent. Doing a smallframe now that needs new legshields so have done a fair amount of study into methods.

What is your plan for the horncast?
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 pm quote
Haha, you're not wrong!

I'll put up some pics of my progress when I get cracking again. I've had to pit a new floor on mine but managed to save the legshield. I want yhe horncast to be a close as possible so will put my feelers out again and hope that someone can advise me on it before I fit it. I've punched some holes in the flat edges so I can puddle welf it in place but like I say it's just getting the position right.

Really appreciated your help with the rest though and that will make a really big difference with my progress.

Cheers,

Stacy
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 7658
Location: Victoria, Australia
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:17 am quote
Ah yes the big flat flange makes it pretty easy. Good luck and make sure you put up plenty of pictures!
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