Bike not kicking over after a long ride
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1978 P200E
Joined: 02 Oct 2019
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Location: Costa Mesa CA
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:48 pm quote
I am hoping someone will have a suggestion on this. So my Bike P200E will start up cold (i.e., sitting over night) in one to three kicks. Then riding it runs fine, idles fine, doesn't change. However after a long healthy ride (say and hour or so) If i turn the bike off for a moment (stopping at the ATM) it will not kick over (immediately after) again. Kind of like it's flooded but it shouldn't be. The only way I can get going again is to bump start it where it bogs at first then goes back to running just fine. The thing is I don't know how long it takes to sit idle before the issue goes away. Of course I am thinking something in the fuel line. I have done a red kote on my tank and there are no bits or pieces coming off the tank or fouling the line so I don't understand what it can be. Isn't a huge issue but I would rather not have to bump start every time I need to make a short stop. Any ideas would be great. Taking it in for sme work shortly and will ask about this.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 pm quote
It is a two stroke isn`t it ? If it was a four stroke I would say that get your valve clearances right.

I am not an expert on two strokes, but I have heard that typical old two stroker problem is spark plug getting wet (too rich mixture) when engine is warm. You could try to choke or block the air intake when starting warm and at least renew the sparkplug which also gets worse because of extra fuel during startup.
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1978 P200E
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:43 pm quote
Yeah it's a 2 stroke. I will check the spark plug but it doesn't seem to be running rich and the idle is fine, but I suppose the S plug could be getting fouled by saturation.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:44 pm quote
Focus on the carb. What color is the needle? How long has it been since you cleaned it? What’s your current motor setup and what jetting is in it?

Flooding overnight is one thing but 5 minutes at the ATM is another.
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1978 P200E
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:05 pm quote
Hmm, Brand new Spaco (del orto style) 24/24 only 4-6 months old. SIP road 2 exhaust, jetted to 122. Also carb was drilled slightly to intake more when went from the 20/20 to the 24/24.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:45 pm quote
Here's two things to check.

Choke not closing, be sure the choke cable is loose at the carb when closed. This is a common problem with the outer catching.

Next mixture screw. Too far out does this. Starts cold but not hot.
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1978 P200E
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:08 pm quote
Thanks for all the suggestions. I now have a checklist to go off.
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