[NSR] Mulberries please? A prayer to Americans.
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:42 am quote
OK guys and gals. I tried to resist my passion, but just can't. Also because what is hugely important for me, can be a breeze for the person who helps me. Which is why I was bold enough to post this request.

So, what's the thing? The thing is that I am not only a proud member of this great community (owning Piaggio MP3 and two Aprilia Scarabeos, 50 and 500cc), but also a gardener, just as many of you. And being a curious person, I try growing plants which aren't common for our zone (which is Russia, South Ural, not too much far from the place where Ural motorcycle is made, USDA 4 zone)

Sooo, I found possible to grow mulberries. I've collected a nice collection of common mulberries, but now I need two more rarely available things.

First of all, I need Pakistani mulberry, Morus macroura. Those have long (up to 4 inch/10cm) berries, black or white, not so juicy, but very sweet and unusual. Those can be found in wild in Pakistan and around, but is also grown in lots of USA properties and backyards

Next, I need native American red mulberry, which is Morus rubra. It is rare enough because of hybridisation with Asian Morus alba, but still is available at some enthusiasts in USA and Canada.

Both are listed at ebay, but almost no sellers ship to Russia. And who do, often send fake items (like regular white mulberry twigs and seeds).


So I am begging to people who understands my passion to gardening and specifically mulberries: could you please sell to me some berries with seeds and some twigs from your plants? If anyone feels being able to help, please PM me, we'll discuss. Indeed I am not trying to get anything for free, I will pay all expenses and bring some profit There's no problem with customs by now, if that matters.

Indeed I am hightly interested also in other species and varieties. So if anyone wants to help and has other mulberries, I'd be happy to discuss them too.


I really, really do hope to find some overseas friend who can support my passion. So can't wait to see some PM.


Oh, forgot to mention. My name is Boris, glad to meet you
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:17 pm quote
And a bump in case someone can help. Unfortunately my skills don't run to mulberries, but I'm sure someone on MV will know how to procure some.
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:42 am quote
I tried to buy long (Pakistani) mulberry at ebay several times. And even obtained a live plant, but next it literally showed me a male organ. Mulberries usually have two genders: one trees are female (and produce fruits), others are male (and produce only pollen). More: it was a short male organ. Which means it is not even a male tree of Morus macroura, which should have much longer male flowers.

Anyway, Italians are right here: in their language 'male' is bad.


PS Jim, thanks a lot!

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Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:42 pm quote
Is this what you are looking for? Let me know and I'll figure out if I can get one or two to you.

https://www.amazon.com/Dwarf-Everbearing-Mulberry-Plant-Morus/dp/B008BB8VOW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=mulberry+plant&qid=1595886006&sr=8-4
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:13 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:
Is this what you are looking for? Let me know and I'll figure out if I can get one or two to you.

https://www.amazon.com/Dwarf-Everbearing-Mulberry-Plant-Morus/dp/B008BB8VOW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=mulberry+plant&qid=1595886006&sr=8-4
So you’re a big man on Mulberry street?
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:16 pm quote
znomit wrote:
Madison Sully wrote:
Is this what you are looking for? Let me know and I'll figure out if I can get one or two to you.

https://www.amazon.com/Dwarf-Everbearing-Mulberry-Plant-Morus/dp/B008BB8VOW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=mulberry+plant&qid=1595886006&sr=8-4
So you’re a big man on Mulberry street?
Nah, I'm just a slightly overweight man on a street with no name.
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:13 pm quote
Madison Sully, thanks man! I already have that variety from Amazon. I believe this should be the one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mulberry-Tree-Pakistan-Morus-macroura-live-plant-edible-fruit/254500658624?hash=item3b416bddc0:g:rkMAAOSwboheNhWb

But! The best option for me could be to get some berries with seeds. The plant itself can't be distinguished from other varieties (thus could be wrong variety). But berries can't be wrong: they are pretty longer and thinner than others.

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Pakistani (long) mulberry

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Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:08 am quote
... this means that one day you will make a cocoon and go out making a silk thread?
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:01 am quote
Attila, funny part is that silkworms like leaves of Morus alba, and they don't like too much Morus macroura and Morus rubra which I need. And if they are forced to eat other mulberry foliage, they produce silk of poor quality.
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:36 am quote
Jah wrote:
Madison Sully, thanks man! I already have that variety from Amazon. I believe this should be the one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mulberry-Tree-Pakistan-Morus-macroura-live-plant-edible-fruit/254500658624?hash=item3b416bddc0:g:rkMAAOSwboheNhWb

But! The best option for me could be to get some berries with seeds. The plant itself can't be distinguished from other varieties (thus could be wrong variety). But berries can't be wrong: they are pretty longer and thinner than others.
So this, then?

https://www.amazon.com/mulberry-Exotic-Pakistan-Non-GMO-garden/dp/B074DKJ3ZR/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=mulberry+seeds&qid=1595936106&sr=8-7
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:19 am quote
I just ordered some Morus rubra seeds. Don't know if they are hybrid but the site does not mention it. I would be happy to send you some in a letter.
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:58 am quote
Madison Sully wrote:
So this, then?
Yep, if these were true macroura seeds. But it will take 7 years to find that out. Which is why some sellers put much more common Morus alba seeds instead of Morus macroura, and which is why I search for berries, not seeds. The thing is that any owner of Pakistani mulberry has loads of those seeds in each berry...
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Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:58 am quote
stickyfrog wrote:
I just ordered some Morus rubra seeds. Don't know if they are hybrid but the site does not mention it. I would be happy to send you some in a letter.
WOW, look for a PM.
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Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:07 pm quote
Mulberry facts:

Their berries are very attractive for birds. However being dinosaurs, those birds are dumb enough not to eat white mulberries. So some people choose to grow white varieties and avoiding birds problems.

Others have to use birds netting which I call "anti-dino".


BTW we've discussed Morus rubra seeds with Sticky, and now all I need are some dried berries of long/pakistani mulberry, Morus macroura.

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Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:49 am quote
Jah wrote:
Mulberry facts:

Their berries are very attractive for birds. However being dinosaurs, those birds are dumb enough not to eat white mulberries. So some people choose to grow white varieties and avoiding birds problems.

Others have to use birds netting which I call "anti-dino".


BTW we've discussed Morus rubra seeds with Sticky, and now all I need are some dried berries of long/pakistani mulberry, Morus macroura.
Was just getting ready to pm you. The seeds arrived Saturday. PM me an address and I will check to see how much the post is.
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:57 am quote
Good Morning Boris.

I posted the seeds to you yesterday. It was only $1.25 for a letter sized envelope. Don't worry about the postage. I hope they work out for you. Post some pics if they germinate.
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:05 am quote
Thaaaanks John! You're my hero


First percent of my dream fulfilled: some mulberries collected from my garden. Not a goal, but a step to it.

The goal is... to have a great mulberry garden? To earn money for living on them? To have enough to eat and to sell? To find best varieties for our zone? To plant them everywhere in the city for kids and birds? All those and lots of other reasons...


PS the paw ain't mine. Its owner is Lena, and she's my best half.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:48 am quote
Sorry I couldn't help. I just don't do berries
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:05 pm quote
But! If anybody has a good neighbour with long mulberry tree, you know that you may ask him/her about 2-3 berries to send to far Russia

Anyway thanks to this great community for willing to help! Most online forums would ban me for 2 weeks for posting something not related.
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