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After 4 years I spotted my stolen Vespa on YouTube.
1954 ACMA
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wow! That's amazing.

Now you just need to get it back.
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Let me know if you need help getting it back. i will help any way i can. i hate thieves.
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Can you tell where it is? I'm in US South again.
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i think this demands a bit of back story.

but also, just from the screen shot it looks like a highline shop.

so what's up?

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It appears Sean owns a media company in Richmond VA.
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Here's the video. https://youtu.be/0OlMey1CNlg

He had it for sale for $7000. Claims $12K in restoration cost.
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Video is over 4 years old now.
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Touched a community nerve.
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greasy125 wrote:
i think this demands a bit of back story.

but also, just from the screen shot it looks like a highline shop.

so what's up?

-g
Wow! So last night I went digging through paperwork to get all of my facts straight. I bought the bike from a guy in Seattle in 2007. It's an ACMA, which is about as rare as it gets in the Vespa world. If you look at my old posts you'll see that this was a beautiful bike and in reasonably good shape. I took it to a shop in Covington, OH to get the restoration done and that's where all of the trouble started. This shop never did anything they promised to do and much of the work was just done wrong. Finally after two years and no Vespa I e-mailed them to say that I was coming to pick the bike up. That's when they said they had sold it for parts. After I had spent a ridiculous amount of money on it. That's where the communication ended. They never contacted me before or after they sold the bike.

Every once in a while I would Google 54 Vespa ACMA and it usually led me back to my own posts. Yesterday that changed. There it was in a video. I called the number, a guy named Sean answered. I told him I was interested in the bike. He said, "another guy was interested in it as well." I asked where it was and he said it was in a warehouse in Cincinnati. I told him the bike was stolen and that I had the title. He got quite flustered and said he would get back to me in 30 minutes.
So far it has been a long thirty minutes.

Stay tuned. I appreciate the moral support and PLEASE don't harass this guy until I find out the story. Thanks everybody.
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Lee Lux, aka @ThatScooterThing, aka DRC174 on here, is in/around Cincinatti and I'm sure he'd be happy to help.

I also know plenty of Cincinatti/Ohio people who'd be more than happy to help out, too.
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Wow... Shit and Show.

Hope you get your bike back man.
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I unfortunately have had too many things stolen, and completely understand the unsettling feeling and need to continually search for years. I personally would not have said anything about it being stolen to the guy that you talked to. Instead I would have someone, or at least bullshit my way through setting up a meeting at which point I would finally involve law enforcement. More than likely he is going to be ditching your call from this point forward. Maybe in a day or so having someone with a local number call him and inquire might help. I wish the best and hope it returns to your hands.

Leave the street justice until after you have it.

( I also sent some info on Sean Cook via PM including business address and facebook info )
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Re: 1954 ACMA
GeeT60 wrote:
greasy125 wrote:
i think this demands a bit of back story.

but also, just from the screen shot it looks like a highline shop.

so what's up?

-g
Wow! So last night I went digging through paperwork to get all of my facts straight. I bought the bike from a guy in Seattle in 2007. It's an ACMA, which is about as rare as it gets in the Vespa world. If you look at my old posts you'll see that this was a beautiful bike and in reasonably good shape. I took it to a shop in Covington, OH to get the restoration done and that's where all of the trouble started. This shop never did anything they promised to do and much of the work was just done wrong. Finally after two years and no Vespa I e-mailed them to say that I was coming to pick the bike up. That's when they said they had sold it for parts. After I had spent a ridiculous amount of money on it. That's where the communication ended. They never contacted me before or after they sold the bike.

Every once in a while I would Google 54 Vespa ACMA and it usually led me back to my own posts. Yesterday that changed. There it was in a video. I called the number, a guy named Sean answered. I told him I was interested in the bike. He said, "another guy was interested in it as well." I asked where it was and he said it was in a warehouse in Cincinnati. I told him the bike was stolen and that I had the title. He got quite flustered and said he would get back to me in 30 minutes.
So far it has been a long thirty minutes.

Stay tuned. I appreciate the moral support and PLEASE don't harass this guy until I find out the story. Thanks everybody.
Wow this whole thing just turns my stomach, if this were me I would never have told the guy on the phone the bike had been stolen , I would have done everything I could to lead the guy into thinking I wanted to pay big ( as much as it took ) to buy the bike , got the address to view and pounced on it and the seller and sort out the rest later. You may never hear back from this guy now , but I sure hope it was legitedly bought buy this guy and you get it worked out.
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If that's the person who illegally obtained it's gone again. I would have made an offer of $1000.00 more then he was asking and went for a drive. Get a TracFone and activate it with a phone number local for him. Get someone else to call who won't have the stress in their voice, and sounds different.
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On a positive note, the video guy called me back and was totally helpful in getting to the bottom of things. Fingers crossed.
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Depending on what you want to spend, see if you can find a local private investigator to have a look.
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Can't you have the police department that you originally reported this to send the report over to the police in the bike's current location? Or call them up with your original file # and ask them what to do?
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Look, I get it, I've been searching on craigslist for stolen gear for going on 20 years. You have a rare opportunity, seize it.

Call the police.

If it's deemed that this is a stolen bike, the guy who has it now must surrender it -- even if he paid for it in a legitimate sale. It's possible that he is/will not be on your side.

The longer you don't have it, the greater the risk that "the other guy who is interested" buys it in a "cash sale" and vanishes. When that happens, you get nothing.

So, if you haven't already, call the cops and do it right. Otherwise, I'm going to be the first guy who posts the ROFLMAO emoji. :p
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GeeT60 wrote:
On a positive note, the video guy called me back and was totally helpful in getting to the bottom of things. Fingers crossed.
If the guy who has it now sells it... then he is liable for selling stolen goods. He now knows it is stolen. And that is a big deal.

Let's respect GeeT60's request to work with the guy - who is likely innocent and a victim himself given he has returned the call.

Crossing fingers for a good outcome.
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I took it to a shop in Covington, OH to get the restoration done and that's where all of the trouble started. This shop never did anything they promised to do and much of the work was just done wrong. Finally after two years and no Vespa I e-mailed them to say that I was coming to pick the bike up. That's when they said they had sold it for parts. After I had spent a ridiculous amount of money on it. That's where the communication ended. They never contacted me before or after they sold the bike.
wait. wut? they just sold your shit? nah... that's just like wtf?!?

how long was it at the shop?

and also, if i'd spent a "ridiculous amount of money" i'd be jumping in a u-haul to go get my shizz or making a big ass stink at the shop.

i want the dirty details.

also, we don't normally name and shame around these parts, but i'll give you carte blanche on this one... just so somebody else doesn't get burned.

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I took it to a shop in Covington, OH to get the restoration done and that's where all of the trouble started. This shop never did anything they promised to do and much of the work was just done wrong. Finally after two years and no Vespa I e-mailed them to say that I was coming to pick the bike up. That's when they said they had sold it for parts. After I had spent a ridiculous amount of money on it. That's where the communication ended. They never contacted me before or after they sold the bike.
wait. wut? they just sold your shit? nah... that's just like wtf?!?

how long was it at the shop?

and also, if i'd spent a "ridiculous amount of money" i'd be jumping in a u-haul to go get my shizz or making a big ass stink at the shop.

i want the dirty details.

also, we don't normally name and shame around these parts, but i'll give you carte blanche on this one... just so somebody else doesn't get burned.

-g
I was thinking the same thing - 2 years? Whaaaat???
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It was a big wtf moment. The bike was in the shop for approximately two years.
I was living in Ohio when the work started, cleaning out my Mom's house after she rode her last Vespa so to speak. After a year I ended up moving out of state for work. Costs kept piling up and communication went into radio silence. I finally got fed up and e-mailed them that I was coming to pick up the bike.
The office manager told me that I had to talk to the owner. That took a few more days but I finally got ahold of the owner and he said, "We sold it for parts because we hadn't heard from you. Bottom line, they never called, e-mailed or wrote or returned my calls. At the time I was going to take them to court and because of being out of state it just kind of faded away. I'm not shaming but it wouldn't be hard for anyone to figure out. I'm just happy that I still have the title. It was annoying as all hell and trust me, when I saw it online, well, I was mildly annoyed.

BTW, the reason the bike was 2 years in the shop is that this place usually did really high end antique restorations. Folks that could afford to spend $200K on a restoration. That wasn't me but I figured, how much could a small frame Vespa cost. They took the bike completely apart. Essentially, I chose the wrong shop. I didn't find that out until I was too far down the road.
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Hey man.
Crazy story.
Smart to contact.
Now you need to document.

Suggest:
Text the guy with photo of ur title. X out the sensitive data.
Restate it's stolen and what happened on the call.
This will create a paper trail and give you legal leverage - he would be committing a crime selling something he had every reason to believe was stolen.
Otherwise he can say he didn't know.
Tell him to call you and work out how he I'll return it.
Move quick before he can sell or move it and claim ignorance.

You'll get a call.
My$.02
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At the time I was going to take them to court and because of being out of state it just kind of faded away.
Did you report it stolen or anything to the police? I'm guessing the laws in the states would make it pretty difficult for them to legally sell your property - that they would have to take you to court to claim it against unpaid costs and become legal owners to then sell it.

Because walking away like that kinda meant you abandoned it. And now poor Steve may get shafted because who knows how many hands it's been through - unless he bought it directly from this resto company.

I'm guessing that this happened at a time in your life where you couldn't deal with it - that there were bigger issues going on. I've been there - 'lost' a Kombi because I couldn't deal with it.

Tricky mess. Hope it has a happy ending somehow.
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I suggest that the next thing you do is see if the VIN# is in the official, legally enforceable National stolen vehicle data base. If you never filed it as 'stolen' regardless of the circumstances, and it's not there, you may have little to work with.

I would think that 4 years is within the statute of limitations, and if you haven't yet, you could report it now. You can truthfully tell them that you were trying to work with and then find the guy at the shop, and you were searching online since trying to find out where it was, so you could claim it. You didn't want to claim it was stolen if it was just some kind of mixup.

Ain't a lawyer, so grain of salt... Nerd emoticon

Good luck! If it was me, and you find out the guy that has it to be innocent, I'd consider offering at least whatever he's outa pocket if he did any needed work on it properly.
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So what sort of shape was the scooter in when you originally dropped it off at the shop? And how much money did you pay them to work on it? I don't know your state laws, but maybe they did a "mechanics lien" on the scooter?

https://www.lienitnow.com/ohio-faq
https://frostbrowntodd.com/five-frequent-fatal-mistakes-of-ohio-mechanics-lien-claimants/
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qascooter wrote:
I was thinking the same thing - 2 years? Whaaaat???
actually for this type of bike, 2 years wouldn't be out of the norm at all. very rare, very difficult to track down parts, meticulous disassembly and reassembly, and if we talking paint work and chrome or straightening up some trim. the time just rolls out.

but to adios it as "parts" if you're a shop is just straight bullshit. and it don't matter what kind of shop you are. a phone call or an email of: come get your shit is in order.

but it sounds like this was some high end resto car joint so they thought it was probably just a toy and not worth their time.

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First off, you now know that the manager of the shop lied to you when he said "we sold the scooter off for parts." Just looked at your post from 12 years ago when you first got the scoot ...

My 54 Vespa ACMA

They sold the whole damn thing. That's out right fraud.

Second, every state has laws that spell out the process a mechanic has to follow to sell a vehicle that belongs to a customer. Virtually all states require some form of notice to be actually given to the owner of the vehicle and a statement of the amount due for any work or storage fees. Did you ever receive any such statement? Suggest you look into the laws that apply in your state.

That aside, I would immediately notify the local police that someone is listing for sale a rare vehicle to which you have title. Send a copy of the title and have it taken into custody before it disappears for another 12 years.
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Anyone think about the statute of limitations? They may have expired after all this time, leaving the original owner SOL.
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SoCalGuy laid it out just the way it should have gone down and what you should be jumping to do right now. It makes me furious every time I read through this topic, just not right.

I can tell you something right now, when I found out just how bad I had got taken on my scoot I was pissed for years but I didn't give up and I got myself on a mission to get it to where I would be satisfied ( happy ) with the end result, your scooter is so damn unique and rare that I honestly can't understand how you let it get this far out of your control , man get this shit back in your control, there's no cost too high !!!
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Jim McClain wrote:
Anyone think about the statute of limitations? They may have expired after all this time, leaving the original owner SOL.
Limitations would be on the person who stole it facing criminal charges. The shop that has possession of the scooter would have to surrender it to the police and be given back to the original owner. The shop unless knowing it was stolen will be harmless but for them to get their money back would have to sus who they bought it from. The original thief cant be tried in court for a crime but can be brought to civil court in some states.
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I think this all goes back to the original shop that sold it out from under you. What was done then ? Did they compensate you in any way ? It is definitely time to bring in the police and give them everything you have and know.
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any update on this??
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I looked up the website of the company that was restoring the ACMA scooter:

https://www.ddclassic.com

It looks like a real company, doing very high-end work, mostly on cars. It's hard to imagine a place like that stealing a scooter, even a rare one. They were surely exercising a mechanic's lien for allegedly unpaid work.

I assume they would have a different take than the original owner on what happened. Hard to know given how strangely the situation seems to have unfolded, but it seems that there was a "failure to communicate" or two, if I can quote Cool Hand Luke.
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But yeah, there be more to this story....

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Walking on eggshells here.

"A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to the property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property."

I have signed a few of these lien forms over the years...and of course, I never read them before signing, "just a boilerplate form". Then one time I came too near to losing some bit of this or that.

Most have some type of "loss of contact" statement that can legally reach out and bite the unaware in the wallet or ass.
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