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Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:14 am quote
None of this thread makes any sense, which is why itís so fascinating.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:20 am quote
Yes, we could have a contender here.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:17 pm quote
I think he's going at it in a good way, strip the frame down completely to get a good look at the weld and go from there. He will also have to look at the motor , front end and headset in the same way.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:30 pm quote
After seeing that frame I can only imagine what surprises lay in wait within that motor. Iím guessing itís a doorstop. And Iím sure the headset is all sloppy.

Itís gonna be a fun ride!
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:36 pm quote
greasy125 wrote:
After seeing that frame I can only imagine what surprises lay in wait within that motor. Iím guessing itís a doorstop. And Iím sure the headset is all sloppy.

Itís gonna be a fun ride!
Greasy wouldn't that be amazing if the headset was mint ?
I just received another headset myself because of the slop I had to shim up in mine, last piece of my puzzle.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:53 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
None of this thread makes any sense, which is why itís so fascinating.
It is fascinating that he continues to get encouragement. That weld in the tunnel is from putting two scooters together. Is there a point of no return or that idea never crossed anyone's mind?
This is also fascinating to watch him spend time on this mess. I really truly wish he continues with the pointers given. Please buy some body pieces and such for this thing. Please get that motor fixed. I can't wait to see how this comes out. I don't mind being proven wrong on someone else expense.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:21 pm quote
rowdyc wrote:
That weld in the tunnel is from putting two scooters together.
And probably where the misalignment is from... itís probably not even twisted but just welded that way. Which will mean it canít (maybe I shouldnít say shouldnít) just be cranked back into alignment on a jig. It will need to be cut and re-welded.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:31 pm quote
Iíd laugh my ass off.
Lynnb wrote:
greasy125 wrote:
After seeing that frame I can only imagine what surprises lay in wait within that motor. Iím guessing itís a doorstop. And Iím sure the headset is all sloppy.

Itís gonna be a fun ride!
Greasy wouldn't that be amazing if the headset was mint ?
I just received another headset myself because of the slop I had to shim up in mine, last piece of my puzzle.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:40 pm quote
Unfortunately this mutant doesnít come with superpowers.

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:14 pm quote
I see this as a huge learning project, Joe might never be in a parade but he hopes to be able to hop on the ride, make a quick run to the local minimart or convenience store for a 6-pack of his favorite beverage or maybe run by the local taco truck to grab some tacos for an easy supper. And hopes to learn enough that his next, and we hope Vespa 🛵 is 1 he will then know far more about care and maintaining for years to come.
Shiny new is awesome, but the learning Joe is gaining already probably outstrips what I have learned in 4+ years of owning a Vespa and those who know realize I have a small herd of them now.
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:13 am quote
pheasant plucker wrote:
GoSlash27 wrote:
pheasant plucker wrote:
GoSlash27 wrote:
Joefromthefuture wrote:
It's a good thing I have you guys here to make sure I get it done right then, eh?
Hardly. Few of them want to help you and even fewer of them know how.

Best,
-Slashy
Even you think this is a bad idea. So it isnít help... itís enabling. Hope you are also up for helping him wipe his arse when he wrecks.
And what's it to you, or me, or anyone else? Are you riding his bike? No. Is it your ass or wallet if it doesn't work out? No.
The one thing I hate above all others is a man who takes it upon himself to dictate to others what is in their own best interest.
The man has made his decision. You will now either lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Best,
-Slashy
Been thinking about why this is getting under my skin.

It's like a patient saying to his Dr... hey look. I've lost all this weight without trying! I look great. Then the Dr asking some questions and going... Yeah nah... I think you have cancer. And the sort of cancer you have has a 90% mortality. But... if we act quick and cut it out then you have a really good chance of surviving. Then the patient is like "I'm not so sure... can we run some tests? The Drs like... sure, but know that delaying is decreasing your chance of a good outcome. Then they are like... well you know what... I like this weight loss. In fact I'm gonna go buy a whole new wardrobe. I watched a video and people can fight this with homeopathy. Can you tell me how to use homeopathy? The Drs like... I really don't recommend that and don't know anything about homeopathy. Then some other patient chimes in with - hey, I had a similar cancer and fought it with homeopathy. Don't listen to that quack - I know way more than any Dr. In fact I call myself a Dr... I'm the king of Drs. And they all know nothing and don't care about you as proven by the fact they wont treat you with homeopathy.

This issue is that Joe has swapped objectives for this project multiple times and it's throwing us all. First it was" safe and legal resto". That there is the issue - this is not a good starting point. Then it was "learn something tearing down this bodge". And we would all be fine with supporting that - except the first objective hasn't been put to bed. And now it's actually turned out to be a custom spec resto to look like a bike that this isn't. Which again... this is not a good starting point.

Slashy - "The one thing I hate above all others is a man who takes it upon himself to dictate to others what is in their own best interest."

You are biased by the fact that you want to prove some point about bodges and make the rest of us look bad. The only person I see here with a personal interest in this is you. Hypocrite much?

Joe - legitimately keen to help. Suggest stick to tear this down and learn something. I think you will be disappointed trying to achieve the others. Impossible? No. Irrational tho. Time, money, and experience in large quantities. Probably a decent dose of luck. And the clash in these objectives is trolling the thread.

Olive branch... I like the meme/imagery of this FLCL SS 180 and the bass. Here's my take... Anyone else wanna play?
I'll half ass play...
Me on my bike and Me playing my bass at the bottom I guess.

I remember seeing FLCL before I moved to Japan. I was studying japanese and thought, "maybe I should get an anime to practice listening" I wasn't particularly into anime, but walked into a suncoast video and randomly pulled out a DVD. The first one was FLCL and I was like "WTF"! At that time in my life I was rebuilding a Rally and dreamed of owning a rickenbacker. I was amazed at the detail the animators did with the SS and ric.

That being said, building a bodge into a bodged out ss is silly to me. SO is owning a fackenbacker. Sure plenty of people buy rics for the looks, but you buy it for it's sound. It's unique and it's not a sound for me, so gave up on that dream of owning a ric. Same with a vespa. Sure a lot of it is looks, but you own an old shiffty vespa because you like the way they ride. My dream vespa is a rally, which I own and bodged together myself in the states, but can never own one in Japan because they are at least $10,000 here, so I settled for a PX200 because I like shiffty scooters. I would never try and make look like an older bike and they sell kits to do that.

Good luck either way.

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Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:28 am quote
Phangtonpower
Glad to see more people that have seen the anime! Cheaping out on the bass was strictly because of the lack of money at the time lmao

As someone who fell in love with it because of the anime I was strictly going for the looks. I'm not a hard core musician so I can't really tell the difference between bass sounds so it's never been an issue to me. It works and that's what matters to me!

As for the Vespa, given that it's another dream of mine and it's not something to easily cheap out on I'm willing to throw abit of money into it (Unlike the bass)

It's gonna make for a hella good story once it's finished. I've been thinking about mixing badges, 150 badge above the license plate along with a Vespa.S.S on the front. But going for screen accuracy with it I'll most likely see if I can find a bundle for the 180SS badges.
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:55 am quote
Re: Phangtonpower
Joefromthefuture wrote:
Glad to see more people that have seen the anime! Cheaping out on the bass was strictly because of the lack of money at the time lmao

As someone who fell in love with it because of the anime I was strictly going for the looks. I'm not a hard core musician so I can't really tell the difference between bass sounds so it's never been an issue to me. It works and that's what matters to me!

As for the Vespa, given that it's another dream of mine and it's not something to easily cheap out on I'm willing to throw abit of money into it (Unlike the bass)

It's gonna make for a hella good story once it's finished. I've been thinking about mixing badges, 150 badge above the license plate along with a Vespa.S.S on the front. But going for screen accuracy with it I'll most likely see if I can find a bundle for the 180SS badges.
Well at least you can admit to being a poser
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:12 am quote
YACKEE, I agree, I AGREE! but it is the way he is going to do it no matter what you, I or a dozen others have already said.
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Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:21 am quote
And you still don't know what's up with that frame. How about some well lit bigger pics of the underneath including the motor cavity. If it's thick with Bondo and paint in there, you need to peel that off. Try a torch. Doesn't look too good so far. You do have better options anyway, also lmao.
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:47 pm quote
Any update?
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Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:19 am quote
Progress or update?
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Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:28 am quote
Wow.
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Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:21 am quote
Looks like the dream could be over for now, though .
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Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:38 pm quote
He's still trying and posting but now on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1466847760186728&set=g.401946530152528
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Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:07 pm quote
rowdyc wrote:
He's still trying and posting but now on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1466847760186728&set=g.401946530152528
Looks like he's looking for a different answer than he got here. Can't blame him, who wants to admit they bought a heap of parts.
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Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:00 pm quote
Joefromthefuture wrote:
Me too lol Depending on if the frame is usable or not I might continue to go for it, I got the money and I'm willing to throw all of it into the project. I'm going to need to strip off all the paint to evaluate the damage of it. I got alot of connections for hardware based things such as the engine, welding, tires, electrical units and stuff. I'm not expecting this to be any kinda weekend project, or a cheap one at that. I feel like this could be a good start atleast though. Especially for 500$

But if the frame turns out to be poorly put together that might be a different story.
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Sorry for being so direct, but for some reason you seem to be in denial about buying this.
It will be a money pit that will have no end.
Take the advice of others and walk away from this, for the sake of your safety, your wallet and your sanity...
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Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:51 pm quote
*laughs*

Myfacespacebook? Because of course.

Well, Doctor, I donít like my prognosis. I want a second opinion.

Sees Dr Spaceman... everything here seems normal and fine. Hereís a prescription for magic mushrooms.

Geesh.

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Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:06 pm quote
I think he left.

I also think that leaving this thread open is just an invitation to pick on the guy. I haven't seen many posts that are on topic and constructive.

Is it still trolling if he doesn't come back to read the thread? Seems like trolling.
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Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:13 pm quote
jape wrote:
I think he left.

I also think that leaving this thread open is just an invitation to pick on the guy. I haven't seen many posts that are on topic and constructive.

Is it still trolling if he doesn't come back to read the thread? Seems like trolling.
Nah. I think that this may be instructional for future members.

Itís not like he was banned. He didnít like what he heard and the advice that was given and went his way.

Itís all good. Nobody here is trolling it out or shitting on the guy. Just wondering what was up in his odyssey.

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Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:26 am quote
Shame. I was hoping for project updates.

Last update, it really needed to be blasted to see what the frame shape was.
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Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:07 am quote
hjo wrote:
Shame. I was hoping for project updates.

Last update, it really needed to be blasted to see what the frame shape was.
Like a stripper who has already taken enough off to see a big toe where the belly button should be, one leg is half the length of the other, and only 6 teeth that are all dancing to a different beat...

Keep Ďem on love... weíve seen enough thanks.
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Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:29 pm quote
^^^^^


SO true, tnx.
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