Please Help to Correctly Identify
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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
Joined: 14 Dec 2017
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:10 pm quote
I have had this for about 6 months now. When I got it it didnít run for around 12 years. I got it running and have enjoyed riding it this summer, but as the riding season in Ohio is coming to a close I am trying to decide what I want to do with this. It is titled as a 1967 Vespa Super 125, but I am having suspicion that this may be incorrect. Would anyone be able to help identify or confirm? The frame serial number is rusted too bad to read if it is even there at all. The engine serial number is a VNC1M, but the numbers donít match to that of any of the serial number databases I have found. I want to be sure before I start buying parts to rebuild the engine this winter or find out if itís even worth doing. Thanks for all your help!

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Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:31 pm quote
The gurus and sages on here can identify it but more pictures are needed.
From both sides, and the rear. Shot of the speedo wouldn't hurt either. All give clues to the super sleuths on here.
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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:34 pm quote
Rear

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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:35 pm quote
Legshield

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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
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Posts: 32
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:36 pm quote
Speedo. I replaced it as it didnít come with one when I bought it.

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Style Maven
74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa PK50XL2 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special '66(?) Super125
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Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:12 pm quote
Looks like a legit 125 Super to me. Here's mine and lots more photos you can compare yours to here:
Unpainting a scooter





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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
Joined: 14 Dec 2017
Posts: 32
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:45 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
Looks like a legit 125 Super to me. Here's mine and lots more photos you can compare yours to here:
Unpainting a scooter





Thanks! I am still confused on my year though since the engine vin is not located on any of those sites.
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79p200e 66smallstate 85pk50xl 84p125ets 63GL
Joined: 24 Nov 2016
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Location: Flatness, Tx
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:56 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
Looks like a legit 125 Super to me. Here's mine and lots more photos you can compare yours to here:
Unpainting a scooter

^^^+1

More info here pointing it to 65~69 125 Super.

https://www.vespa.name/vespa-model/vespa-125-super

https://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/ves.motor.serial.numbers.html

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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
Joined: 14 Dec 2017
Posts: 32
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:11 am quote
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^^^+1

More info here pointing it to 65~69 125 Super.

https://www.vespa.name/vespa-model/vespa-125-super

https://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/ves.motor.serial.numbers.html[/quote]

Thanks! I looked it up but my engine serial number wasnít found. Itís 025459. That doesnít show up on any of those. The frame serial number is rusted away. Thatís what sparked my curiosity if it was actually a 1967.
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79p200e 66smallstate 85pk50xl 84p125ets 63GL
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Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:37 pm quote
Engine serial numbers rarely, if ever, matched the frame serial numbers. The prefix, VNC1M, will narrow it down to model the engine was used in among a range of years. The frame is a more accurate means of finding the exact year. Is the frame number on the title? That may help possibly. VNC1M looks to only have been used in 65~69 125 Supers. As Voodoo said, looks legit.
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2007 GTS 250, 1967 125 Super
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:44 pm quote
poidog wrote:
Engine serial numbers rarely, if ever, matched the frame serial numbers. The prefix, VNC1M, will narrow it down to model the engine was used in among a range of years. The frame is a more accurate means of finding the exact year. Is the frame number on the title? That may help possibly. VNC1M looks to only have been used in 65~69 125 Supers. As Voodoo said, looks legit.
Thanks! The number on the title is the engine number. The frame is very rusty where the serial number would be. What would be the best way to gently try and get the rust gone to try to reveal what it may be?
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74 50s x3 78 P200 84 Cosa PK50XL2 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special '66(?) Super125
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Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:01 pm quote
Lets see pics of your frame number. Mine was pretty trashed too and took three tries to get it fairly readable. Mainly, I used fine sandpaper, hopefully the numbers are deeper than the rust and will reveal themselves. Let's see a well lit shot of the floor from underneath as well to help judge how bad or good it might be.





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2007 Stella 150
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Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:22 pm quote
Try a white crayon or white tire marker also, I like to use it on numbers in good shape to help them standout and make them easier to read.

If the frame is that rusted you may want to take a look in the tunnel area under the tank and between your feet to make sure it isn't ready to fall apart. That metal is the frame on these, there isn't any tubing. I used a selfie stick and put the phone down there.
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