Washington DC - 2015 Vespa GTS 300 Super Malossi kit - SOLD
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Hello my fellow MVers, what's a fair price for my bike? Here's the link
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I'm not sure about "fair", but scooters are worth what someone will pay for them. The NADA average retail for the bike is about $3,500. In my experience, performance parts don't usually add much to resale value. You should certainly check prices in various on-line listings, remembering that asking price and actual selling price are not the same thing. Looks like whoever buys your scooter will be getting a nice one.
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Agree with Dooglas, you rarely get a good return on farkle or gear. If possible sometimes it is best to sell them separately. It does look like a nice scoot so if you have time to wait the right buyer might come along that appreciates the upgrades.
Sorry to see you really are calling it quits but I can understand your reasoning. Not sure how I would handle it if in the same situation. *EDIT* changed really to rarely... spelling is hard! ⚠️ Last edited by Harbinger on UTC; edited 1 time
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It's not what's fair or unfair, it's what someone else is willing to pay for it. The answer is probably not $6500.
In Winter, you are looking at low to mid 3K, maybe more if someone wants to give someone else a Vespa for Christmas. In Spring, high 3, maybe up to 42-4500 at tax time. White is not a popular color, so you are going to be a few hundred to a thousand back of what you could get if it's red or black, and it won't sell as fast. OTOH, the person who has always wanted a white GTS might find you. Whenever I sold a used GTS that someone took the time and money to customize and make theirs with a lot of accessories, I removed them. The bike sells faster, because the used buyer knows they want a Vespa, and doesn't have a clue what anything else on the list is. So they are not going to pay for it, if there's another option where they don't have to. The other problem you are going to have is that it's a five year old bike, and you are trying to get dealership money, without being able to offer customer financing or a warranty. People can put together 3-4 grand for a used Vespa, but much over that, and new ones look mighty tempting.
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Hi Budz,
It sounds like you have invested a lot on scooter. But no windscreen, no top box, no crashbars. I believe your price is inflated. |
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Cool bike, but I don't know if someone would pay $6500. That seems a bit steep for a 5 year-old bike, even with all the mods and the relatively low miles. By comparison, a 2020 GTS300 HPE (less your cool mods, but plus a 2 year warranty) is $7200 from some dealers. If you want to sell it quickly, drop the price... Try $5000 to 5500 and see what happens. If you want to sell it really quickly, drop the price to $2500 and PM me.
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I have to agree with what others have said. I've learned over many years of motorcycling and buying and selling bikes, that the add ons don't really add value to the bike. (I also worked in motorcycle sales for a local Harley dealer)
They may make a scooter/bike sell faster but most folks will not pay extra for them. It's always best to remove what you can and sell them separately. Then price you scooter realistically to sell. When buying a used scooter, most folks just want the lowest price, and definitely not over book value. |
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Hey Budz. I've known you since you owned an SH. Then a Kimco. Now you have a sweet Vespa and a BV.
I don't know the circumstances of the need to sell it but if you don't need the money/space keep it. It's always nice to have a backup bike when your primary bike is down for service. Don't let the vultures start circling your Vespa. |
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breaknwind wrote: Hey Budz. I've known you since you owned an SH. Then a Kimco. Now you have a sweet Vespa and a BV. I don't know the circumstances of the need to sell it but if you don't need the money/space keep it. It's always nice to have a backup bike when your primary bike is down for service. Don't let the vultures start circling your Vespa. Hit by a police SUV |
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Harbinger wrote: breaknwind wrote: Hey Budz. I've known you since you owned an SH. Then a Kimco. Now you have a sweet Vespa and a BV. I don't know the circumstances of the need to sell it but if you don't need the money/space keep it. It's always nice to have a backup bike when your primary bike is down for service. Don't let the vultures start circling your Vespa. Hit by a police SUV |
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it's the middle of October, it's not selling time. this is buying time. from now until mid march prices are going to be low, not to mention the whole end of the world situation with everybody out of work and no fun money rolling around.
anyway, it's a nice bike. well maintained and cared for and with some tasty mods. but like moto said: it's not resale red, sultry silver, bangin' black or some sought after one year only or lusted after color. it's a white gts with a bunch of performance stuff that nobody knows about. in my neck of the woods, you're about 15 over. it'd move the needle at something like 45~50 unless you sit on it till you find that *one* person that wants exactly that or wait till spring comes a bloomin' figure more in that range. best guess, 4750 is where you wind up. -g |
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FWIW, I just bought a 2018 Super w/5k mi for $4800 in SoCal. Prices here tend to be a bit to considerably higher than elsewhere.
All of your farkles mean little, if anything to the average buyer. I would be looking at paying no more than $4500-$4700 for that bike if it were here. Avg NADA + 30% of the value of upgrades is my rough estimation for a starting point. Values on non HPE models are going to continue to drop over time. |
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GotMojo wrote: FWIW, I just bought a 2018 Super w/5k mi for $4800 in SoCal. Prices here tend to be a bit to considerably higher than elsewhere. All of your farkles mean little, if anything to the average buyer. I would be looking at paying no more than $4500-$4700 for that bike if it were here. Avg NADA + 30% of the value of upgrades is my rough estimation for a starting point. Values on non HPE models are going to continue to drop over time. The way I see it once I own something outright any money I get back is a bonus. A home is an investment, a bike not so much. If you are in no rush wait for the right buyer and Greasy and Moto are bang on I believe with what to expect. The HPE has also hurt the market especially for the GTS. Anyone that does their homework (and they should) that is looking for a used Vespa will know about the HPE and that doe into play in your favour. I like white scoots but as said it's not a really popular colour. *EDIT* For fun I just checked the used listings for my model Vespa and I think I did make a good choice. I'm a little shocked actually though I'm not selling it anytime soon. |
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i mean it really comes down to this: your bike is rad, and it has a grip of really cool shit on it. everything i would want-- but that's *just* me.
joe dickhead that wants a vespa can walk into a dealer, put 1K down and pay $99 a month for a brand new bike with a warranty in the exact color they want. there's a buyer for your bike, it's just finding that person and figuring out where you want to meet on the money. unfortunately, this time of year and what all else is going down it's a buyers market and not really a sellers market. drop your price a few hundy and see if you get some nibbles. -g |
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I warn you, in advance, that before retirement, I was called "Mr. Tact". It was intended to be sarcastic.
Honestly, I think this is a $3500-$4000 scooter. I've bought two GTSs each with under 1000 miles (one was a year old, the other was three years old) and the price paid, on average, was about 40% less than the retail price when new. They were both in perfect condition when bought. To me, your mods are not worth paying much for; I would think 20% of your cost would be optimistic. A top case and crash bars would be worth more to most potential buyers. One question: it seems awfully early to have replaced the brakes. I have 20,000 miles on one and 16,000 miles on the other with original brakes on both. Are you hard on the brakes or perhaps your shop is a little overly zealous? Sorry to be pessimistic; I hope you do better. |
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Thank you everybody for your sound perspective. I am definitely open to price reduction. The key is to be realistic and not sentimental. While I love my GTS, to everyone else, it is just another GTS...
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Kayemtee wrote: One question: it seems awfully early to have replaced the brakes. I have 20,000 miles on one and 16,000 miles on the other with original brakes on both. Are you hard on the brakes or perhaps your shop is a little overly zealous? Sorry to be pessimistic; I hope you do better. |
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I gave 4K for my 2015 with no farkle and 10000 miles. But I agree you'll do better by removing the easy to remove stuff and selling it separately. I'm in the 4.5k-5k group on this one, depending on how much someone values the additions to the bike. I agree with Greasy - it's good stuff on there and in an ideal world that stuff would add up to a better price but a 5 year old bike vs a new one for 6-7K, you won't be able to get the price much north of 5k at best.
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Madison Sully wrote: Kayemtee wrote: One question: it seems awfully early to have replaced the brakes. I have 20,000 miles on one and 16,000 miles on the other with original brakes on both. Are you hard on the brakes or perhaps your shop is a little overly zealous? Sorry to be pessimistic; I hope you do better. |
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sdjohn wrote: I gave 4K for my 2015 with no farkle and 10000 miles. But I agree you'll do better by removing the easy to remove stuff and selling it separately. I'm in the 4.5k-5k group on this one, depending on how much someone values the additions to the bike. I agree with Greasy - it's good stuff on there and in an ideal world that stuff would add up to a better price but a 5 year old bike vs a new one for 6-7K, you won't be able to get the price much north of 5k at best. I was planning on keeping my GTS for a long while. It's quick and fun to ride. You can easily pop wheelies with it. I'll miss it... |
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Madison Sully wrote: Kayemtee wrote: One question: it seems awfully early to have replaced the brakes. I have 20,000 miles on one and 16,000 miles on the other with original brakes on both. Are you hard on the brakes or perhaps your shop is a little overly zealous? Sorry to be pessimistic; I hope you do better. |
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I just did many of the mods you have on your bike (full Malossi cylinder kit, ForceMaster, Akropovic, etc). Having both bought and sold used and new GTS 300's, I knew going in that I wouldn't get back the costs of this work through re-sale. My rationale was different, though; either invest in a new HPE and the extra torque for $$$$, or upgrade my 2018 with 6k on it. I'm delighted with the results, but I don't expect to make that back.
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Budz wrote: I can't take the mods off, they are mechanical and suspension. I don't have chrome, crash bars etc. they are not my style, I like the original Vespa design and don't have anything that's not OEM not even a top case, except the mirrors. I was planning on keeping my GTS for a long while. It's quick and fun to ride. You can easily pop wheelies with it. I'll miss it... |
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sdjohn wrote: Budz wrote: I can't take the mods off, they are mechanical and suspension. I don't have chrome, crash bars etc. they are not my style, I like the original Vespa design and don't have anything that's not OEM not even a top case, except the mirrors. I was planning on keeping my GTS for a long while. It's quick and fun to ride. You can easily pop wheelies with it. I'll miss it... |
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sorry to read about your accident, I never read that thread but I caught up now. I hope you either have good luck with your sale or have such bad luck that you take up riding again and enjoy it
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sdjohn wrote: sorry to read about your accident, I never read that thread but I caught up now. I hope you either have good luck with your sale or have such bad luck that you take up riding again and enjoy it |
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Budz wrote: sdjohn wrote: sorry to read about your accident, I never read that thread but I caught up now. I hope you either have good luck with your sale or have such bad luck that you take up riding again and enjoy it |
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sdjohn wrote: Budz wrote: I can't take the mods off, they are mechanical and suspension. I don't have chrome, crash bars etc. they are not my style, I like the original Vespa design and don't have anything that's not OEM not even a top case, except the mirrors. I was planning on keeping my GTS for a long while. It's quick and fun to ride. You can easily pop wheelies with it. I'll miss it... J/K John, you hooked me up solid and I'm very appreciative of it. Let me get my stuff wired tight and let's come together on the lammy/vbb/smallie situation. I understand it's dragged on and that's my fault, but do know that's on the front of my mind! -g |
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greasy125 wrote: Whattttt? I coulda held out longer and gotten those parts even cheaper?!?? J/K John, you hooked me up solid and I'm very appreciative of it. Let me get my stuff wired tight and let's come together on the lammy/vbb/smallie situation. I understand it's dragged on and that's my fault, but do know that's on the front of my mind! -g |
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Thank you for the good advice. I sold my GTS yesterday to a very nice British fellow who wanted this exact bike. He has a very nice white Lambreta and real scooterist. A bit of good luck to find someone who wanted those exact mods and bike color. Factoring the cost of the bike and mods, the difference was only $200 in the sale, not bad.
Thanks again, as always you were a big help and as always it is very much appreciated! |
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Budz wrote: Thank you for the good advice. I sold my GTS yesterday to a very nice British fellow who wanted this exact bike. He has a very nice white Lambreta and real scooterist. A bit of good luck to find someone who wanted those exact mods and bike color. Factoring the cost of the bike and mods, the difference was only $200 in the sale, not bad. Thanks again, as always you were a big help and as always it is very much appreciated! |
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