A California 2-tone legend in TX (66 VSC Resto)
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:17 am quote
Through the magic of scooter karma , random texts, and luck it looks like I will become the next caretaker of Oscillator's-----> Jess' 1966 SS180
I still need to pinch myself to believe it's true. I have been searching for my next project and this is well... I mean it doesn't get any better does it?

From what I understand the engine is pretty much sorted, so the project will be mostly a cosmetic deep dive. While a full concourse resto is way over my head, I do believe the SS180 warrants being true to the og cosmetics, so color will be hawthorne, red, or pavone blue. I welcome your thoughts, comments and spitballs here.

A huge bonus in all this was yammering with Jess again via text. Miss him around here for sure.

I don't recall who said it... Ginch? Socal? '...We don't own these really, we are just their caretakers for a time'. So very true.

Hat tip again to Jess.

More soon!

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:01 am quote
Re: A California legend in Texas (66 VSC Resto)
Looks like karma credit has paid off with interest!!
Can't think of a better 'caretaker' for the task. Keep us all posted!
Birdsnest wrote:
I don't recall who said it... Ginch? Socal? '...We don't own these really, we are just their caretakers for a time'. So very true.



More soon!
Credit where credit is due... I believe MJRally is the originator of the quote,
"... Youíre the caretaker now, not the owner."
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:44 am quote
MJRally! That's right. Thanks.

Will appreciate your expertise and steady hand on this one Mark!
You temper my worst, bull-in-a-china-shop instincts every time we wrench together.
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 am quote
Fantastic! This'll be fun to watch. I know you'll care for it admirably!

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:08 am quote
Good stuff! Can't wait for pics.
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:48 pm quote
this is awesome on every single level.

looking forward to the build out on this one, it's gonna be epic!

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:17 pm quote
Cool & congrats. Letís see some pics!
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:29 pm quote
Even though I'm a tiny bit sad to let go of this bike -- my favorite Vespa model, by far -- I am also ecstatic that it is moving on to a good home.

Will be watching for a build thread.
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:33 pm quote
This photo is about 10 years old, but the bike is nearly identical to this today.

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:36 pm quote
Very nice, and you are the right guy, on hand.

(thanks a LOT Jess, looks like there goes any chance to dangle my fine none running, no papers and rattlecanned 62 VNB here? )
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:41 pm quote
Full circle baby. Full circle.

A door closes and then a window opens.

You pay it forward and then reap in spades on the back end.

Another project will come trucking down the road that gets you fired up. Then, youíll know you made the right decision.

And yeah, itís good to see you back as well! Give us a thread and spill the beans on what ya been up to!

xo
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:14 pm quote
On my list of xmas viewing.
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Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:50 am quote
Oh wow , I donít k ow about karma but I sure will say luck came your way. I really like that seat.
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Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:06 am quote
Lynnb wrote:
Oh wow , I donít k ow about karma but I sure will say luck came your way. I really like that seat.
Well a little luck, but overall due to a huge amount of kindness and generosity via Jess. Truly.

oh and thanks all for the interest and good tidings y'all .
First thing upon arrival will be inventory. Lots of spare parts and replacement ware items are coming with the SS. Then we will be cleaning the fuel system and carb, and doing some shake down riding.

I have to say looking at the parts diagrams I am happy to know that the engine rebuild was fairly recent! Double flyside seals and some tougher than normal bearings to manage?!? What an interesting engine design.
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Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:30 pm quote
The 180SS (and all of her baggage), waiting for a ride to her new home.

So long, my friend. I will miss you.

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Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:42 pm quote
That pic is giving me the vapors...

I spent the day preparing the new home. Garage is small but serviceable. (The sweet S.S. will definitely put me at max capacity.)

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Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:55 pm quote
The truck just pulled out with the SuperSport onboard. On its way to you, Jeff!
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Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:00 pm quote
jess wrote:
The truck just pulled out with the SuperSport onboard. On its way to you, Jeff!
Non-stop gratitude. *doffs cap*
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Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:14 pm quote
Double check the headset bearings...

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Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:15 pm quote
Hey, you were there when those headset bearings went in. If they're not right, I'm blaming you.
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Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:19 pm quote
Sad to say but now I have the factory tool for that job.
Hope you are well sir...

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Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:12 pm quote
Hahahaha!

Allow for the litigation of past discrepancies begin!!

Super rad thread already. Very very generous on behalf of Jess. I canít think of a better caretaker than the birbs.

I love it when a plan comes together.

-g
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:39 am quote
Xmas came a week or two early...

Denver James rolled up this morning and delivered all the goods. STOKED

Jess had mentioned a bunch of spare parts and some rare bit were included, but I was overwhelmed at just how complete this project is from the jump. All the hens teeth are present and accounted for. Excited is an understatement. Stay tuned, and again, thanks Jess!!!

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:55 am quote
Hello! What a beauty.
Looking forward to seeing this one back on the road. Itís definitely in good hands.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:45 am quote
Oh my. I'm a sucker for a trap headset
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:40 am quote
Oh, so relieved everything go there intact. I can officially relax now.

Have fun with it, I'll be vicariously following along.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:49 am quote
Congrats to You on acquiring this lovely project! SS180 are my fave Vespa! I've got one on the shelf waiting for its day in the sun..... it been waiting a long long loooooooong time. You've inspired me already! Now get wrenching

Jess, seems like its in good hands and will be well taken care of. Seems like the whole MV community will be watching your baby reborn
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:53 am quote
Special thanks are due to Patrick, who (among many other things) sourced the correct tail light and new lens that I never managed to install. And while I am definitely feeling some guilt on that particular point, I suspect he will also be happy, as I am, to see it all come together.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:50 pm quote
the eagle has landed.

what an epic journey and an amazing story.

time to get to work!

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:56 pm quote
Day1

Went through the boxes and again... was gobsmacked to see so many bits and bobs were already sourced. The aforementioned Mickey Mouse taillight, quality repop cowls, front fender, trim, cables... Just a ridiculous foundation to start with.

Post inventory and sorting. We drained gas. Pulled the tank and soaked it in a bit of clean fuel. An OG tank was included and is being assessed for acid treatment. While the working tank was hanging around getting decarmelized, we grabbed the heat gun and started pulling the grip tape.

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:57 pm quote
Still a bit tacky from the old glue... red underneath is pretty though...

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:40 pm quote
Nice! That body is in great shape.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:41 pm quote
I just recently removed grip tape from my scoot and WD-40 with paper towels made short work of the left over adhesive.

Looking forward to seeing the progress.
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:45 am quote
Aircooled wrote:
I just recently removed grip tape from my scoot and WD-40 with paper towels made short work of the left over adhesive.

Looking forward to seeing the progress.
Thanks! I tried dish soap And Krud Kutter.... limited success with the latter. Should have known by the intentionally misspelled name. Will give it a go later today.
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:45 am quote
psst. psst.

Hi test gasoline....

And a good rag.

But deep breaths. And a few beers.

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Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:43 am quote
Olive oil also works wonders on tape residue.
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:09 am quote
Birdsnest wrote:
Aircooled wrote:
I just recently removed grip tape from my scoot and WD-40 with paper towels made short work of the left over adhesive.

Looking forward to seeing the progress.
Thanks! I tried dish soap And Krud Kutter.... limited success with the latter. Should have known by the intentionally misspelled name. Will give it a go later today.
I've used WD-40 for cleaning for years with great success. Spray it on, let it soak for 10 and wipe it off.

Greasy's Hi test gasoline comment brings back some not so fond memories. We didn't have disposable gloves growing up so naphtha, gas, diesel or whatever else was close was soaked on a rag for cleaning with your bare hands. It was also the best way to clean grease off your hands.
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Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:59 am quote
Ok
Weíre back. Slight delay with fussy Lambretta switch repair (took 4 hands and the patience of a saint ... saint named Mark in this case) and throttle cable nonsense had me side tracked. More on that in the Li switch repair thread I started.

On the SS, I yanked the rest of the grip tape and removed the adhesive with Wd40 and some acetone.

Next, I went about assessing the tanks.

Both have rust. The og tank actually looks like less work to get going so will get after that today weather permitting.

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Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:02 am quote
This is the original tank Not bad.

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Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:21 am quote
err... we will get after it when I fashion and/or buy a fuel tap wrench that works on the SS.

I forgot how far back the tap was on these tanks!
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