2008 MP3 400
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:26 am quote
Hello from New Zealand,
I had an MP3 400 in 2008 and had done about 10,000 kms, before selling it as I had moved to Australia. I have pleasant memories and used to think if I would ever want to go back to a regular 2 wheeled motorbike. But I did.

Now, I am again convinced that I want to go back to MP3 and would like some opinions on a couple of questions :

1) I am looking at a 2008 and a 2013 models of MP3 400, both in excellent condition with low mileage. Wondering if there are really any significant changes between 2008 and 2013 models?

2) I also have a choice of 2016 MP3 yourban 300 in excellent condition. Now, I am intending to take longer trips too, like 500 to 1000 kms sometimes. With this objective, I feel the MP3 400 would be a better option due to better top end performance. Would you agree?

Any feedback will be welcome and will help me in deciding on the best choice.
Thanks
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 324
Location: Belgium
Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:13 am quote
Since you are intent in doing longer treks a.k.a touring, you should be looking at a 500 and nothing else.

The 300 is a pure city commuter and can barely keep up with traffic on the open road.
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2020 MP3 Sport 500 HPE ABS ASR
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 4149
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora Reina de los Ángeles sobre el Río Porciúncula
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:03 am quote
I rode a 2008 MP3 400 from 2008 to 2019. (I still it for sale if anyone's interested). I regularly rode it on Southern California freeways at speeds up to 80 mph. It is happiest at 60 - 65 mph. The longest trip was to San Diego and back - 150 miles each way.

IMHO, it has just enough power for high-speed commuting and touring.

My 2020 MP3 500 hpe is better, of course.
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:42 pm quote
Thanks for your feedback. I agree the 500 would be the best option. However, New Zealand with it's small market, ends up with limited options. Initially the 250, 400 and the Gilera Fuoco 500 were made available. Currently, the MP3 350 is the only model available as a new option. Occasionally, some earlier models come up in the pre-owned, used market.

I am likely to buy the 400 shortly.
Just deliberating between the 2008 with 6000 kms and the 2013 model with 13000 kms. Anyone has any information if there are any significant updates between these two?
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 324
Location: Belgium
Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:49 pm quote
Given the choice between the 3, my vote goes for the 350.

It has a much newer engine, and has a wet clutch. It is everything the 300 should have been and can be considered the successor to the 400.

If it has to be a one of the 400s, then my preference goes for the 2013 as they had worked out most of the bugs by then and the fact it is at least 5 years younger.
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:46 pm quote
Sure 350 would be the best, however it is way out of my budget. So it will have to be the 400.
I would presume the 2013 model would have improvements over the 2008 but have been unable to find any information. Would you have some information on the changes or a link for that?
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 324
Location: Belgium
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:59 pm quote
I think the major difference between the 2 is the fact that the 2008 is a gen 1 RT (regular track) bike and thus requires a full up motorcycle license.

If I am not mistaken, the 2013 gen2 bikes were all LT (large track) models allowing them to be ridden on a regular car license.

Probably some improvements on the electricals as well over the years but it is a Italian beast so don't expect Japanese robustness. The gen2 bikes seem to be the most common and thus easiest to source parts for.

The gen1 bikes are known for going through brakes early, with brakes needing to be serviced way before the tires are worn. You were doing really well if you got 10k kms out of a set of pads.

I think the gen2 bikes may have gotten sintered brake pads allowing them to get much further.

I have a gen3 (current generation) MP3 500 and with 30K km on the clock the pads are only about half worn. Then gen3 bikes have larger brakes and tires as well

Also based on their age, the older models seem to be more sensitive with the tilt lock mechanism and related master cylinder going out.
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:09 pm quote
Helpful information, thank you. The 2013 model is non LT, so requires motorcycle licence. I don't remember having any issues with my 2008 MP3 400, and had a great time touring the north island.
Still something to think over before I make my decision.
Thanks again
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 324
Location: Belgium
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:17 pm quote
Whichever one of the 2 you choose, make sure it got that first initial service at 1K km. This includes the headstock bearings adjustment and lube.

This is probably the most important service the bike will need, especially to avoid the dreaded steering notch issue these bikes are plagued with.

I lube my headstock bearings every 5K km with every oil + filter change.
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:28 pm quote
Thanks for the tip, appreciated 👍
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2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:10 pm quote
Update:

I have purchased the MP3 400 with 5900 kms. It's had a new rear tire and new belt and also the adjustable Givi touring screen. I have added the airhawk seat cushion and it makes the seat so much more comfortable. Done about 150 kms in last two days to bond with my new ride. I will be getting it properly serviced shortly for peace of mind as it was sitting practically unused for about a year.

It feels amazing to be back on the MP3. In my opinion the MP3 offers unparalleled level of safety without compromising on much on the fun factor and wonder why it's not 100 times more popular than it is.
Hooked
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 324
Location: Belgium
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:15 pm quote
A new rear tire and a belt service at less than 6K kms???

That thing must have been ridden "spiritedly". I got 20K kms out of the factory tires.

Thumbs up on the Airhawk cushion. It improves the ride tremendously. 2nd best improvement after the Bitubo shocks.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6298
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:59 pm quote
sbaert wrote:
A new rear tire and a belt service at less than 6K kms???

That thing must have been ridden "spiritedly". I got 20K kms out of the factory tires.

Thumbs up on the Airhawk cushion. It improves the ride tremendously. 2nd best improvement after the Bitubo shocks.
At 7+ years old, it seems to me prudent to replace the rear tire early.
Personally I'd change all three at that age, though OEM tire manufacturers typically say their tires are good for 10 years.
Enthusiast
2008 Gilera Fuoco 500
Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:03 pm quote
I will keep a watch and change the front tires if it feels necessary. This MP3 has remained unused for extended periods and this may be the reason the previous owner replaced the rear tire and also the battery last month. The drive belt could have been replaced due to some indications that it was necessary, maybe.
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